March 16, 2026 – Board of Health – Video & Transcript
March 16, 2026 - Board of Health
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So we, roll call.
John Stoyer. Yes. Dr. Genevina. Here. Katie Stent. Here. Dr. Brett Mordas. Here. And Dr. Bhatti Francisco. That's all this here. Okay. So, we are going to go into executive session. We need a motion for executive session. Executives, when we get out of executive session, I mean, when we, we will go back into open meeting after the executive session. So, let's have a motion for executive session. I make a motion to move into executive session. We have a second? Are we going to do it? Yeah. You had to read the proper setback. That would be next. Okay. Go ahead. Enter into executive session. Persevering to GLC 30AS 21A3 to discuss potential litigation regarding enforcement of the partial condemnation of property located at the insure drive where a discussion in open session would have detrimental effect on the town litigation position. And the chair so declares. I declare. So, we won't be last time. I declare. Okay. So, we're a second. Second. No, I second. Fall in favor? To roll call. Yeah. Okay. Dr. John Stoyer? Yes. Dr. Genevieve Annan? Yes. Katie Stiff? Yes. Dr. Brett Boyce? Yes. All right. Well, I'm sorry. So, we're now in executive session. We're good to go. Thank you. All right.
Good evening. Hello. How are you? I'm well. How are you? Thank you. Welcome. Thank you. Can you state your name? Gene Preston. Gene Preston. Welcome. Okay. So, we're here tonight to talk a little bit about what's happening at the house here. So, we are welcoming any information you'd like to give us because I guess we missed some information from you. Previous session from weather and stuff like that. So, we want to know a little bit about what's happening at the house so the board can make some decisions to help you, too. Well, the house is a family home, been in the family for over 100 years, and we had a compound, my great-grandparents' home, my grandparents' home, and then my parents, and I was moved into the house when I was three months old. So, we had this lovely arrangement, and as people passed on, you know, things kind of were passed from one house to another, and there is a lot of stuff stored at the house. We have a full basement, and there are things down there and things on the ground level, and I'm working to try to, you know, sort through and decide what I can live without and see what needs to stay. Board wants to start up with any questions. That's the team.
Okay. It seems like the more significant problem to the clutter is things like roof leaks and lack of heat in rooms. I'm working on the roof repair. I'm talking to different vendors who provide those kinds of services to see what I can put together. We went through an electric crisis, and that is completely repaired now. There's reports of extension cords running around. Does that mean that they didn't get some of the outlets going? Well, here's that extension cords. I have a lot of curiosity about that. Why are you so phobic about extension cords?
They're sold everywhere. Every big box store, every home improvement store, I don't fear extension cords.
So the problem is with an extension cord and, you know, in rooms where there are a lot of items, the pressure from the weight and the items on top of a cord can create a weakness in those wires, and it could cause fire. Well, there's only one that was pointed out to me, and it was in the middle hall, that was plugged in, and it runs under a rug to supply electricity on the other side. So I haven't done that one yet, but I don't have a problem with getting rid of that. Does the heat work in the house? Of course it does. Yeah. There's one room that never had heat. It's just not installed in it? It was just never installed? It was never installed. It was originally a deck, and then it was, you know, filled in and turned into a room, but no heat was ever supplied to that room. And then there is one room that the cord froze, but the, not the cord, I beg your pardon, the pipe. The pipe froze in one of the bedrooms, and I just haven't prepared that. But smock is going to be coming to the house and looking for ways that they can provide assistance to me. And I'm certain that they will do that, and I'm certain that they will do that, is re-attach the water pipes to water pipes. And what is your plan for the roof? Well, my plan for the roof is to re-roof it. And I have tried a number of different ways to approach that. So, I received an estimate. I had four people come and give me an estimate for a new roof, four different estimates. The people I liked best were also the people who had the most reasonable estimate. And so, I have to, I have to find a way to get a loan to pay for the roof. That's basically where we are, on the roof.
So, we understand you've been working with the town and support services to clear out some of the things in the house, because it causes a risk to the firefighters when they come in to help you. Yes, I know. So, that's one of the big issues. And I understand you have an emotional attachment to the property and the homes and the things in there. But you, I'm sure you have trouble hearing you. I understand you have an emotional attachment to the house and items that might be there. But you've been working with someone from the Council on Aging through that process. Yes. So, how is that going for you? Because I think that's also one of the big worries. Well, some things have gone out the door to be donated to people in need. And that will continue. And so, it's just, I am about to have my 79th birthday. And I have medical problems and I am working as best I can and as expediently as I can. But it's going to take time. It's going to take time. And I have spinal stenosis, four vertebrae. And I found out that I had spinal stenosis. I was walking inside the house and suddenly I was on the floor. And I had no idea why, how. And so, at my age, I have medical problems. And, but I'm, I feel like I'm doing very well given my age. I'm working on the house. Do you have any family that's helping you? There's no one in the area, dear. No, my, I, my only family that's left is my sister and she's in Florida. So, so part of our goals and meeting with you and, and, you know, having the team here is to make it safe for you and also for firefighters and other people that might need to come in and help you. And I understand your pain, suffering, that it's, it's, you know, it sounds like we just have the energy to do what we need to do, right? I am, my energy level is pretty good. But, I mean, I don't work the way I did when I was 30 years younger. And, um, I will do the best I can. So, we're just trying to help, really, to make it safe for you and for the downed people, especially the firefighters. Absolutely. I don't want, um, anyone to be in danger. And I, I certainly love and respect the EMTs and don't wish anything to be threatening them. We're also concerned about you, dear. Right. That's the big thing. Well. You know, you, you have a lot of things going on in the house that I can see. We're worried about that and making the decision on how this has been outstanding work that's been there for a while. And we're worried not only about the town and the fire department, but we're also worried about you, something happening to you. So, that has to become part of our decision of what we should do for you. So, that's important. Well, I, um, I, I don't want to lose my house. It's my family home. It's filled with beautiful things that were created by my, my family. And, um, my mother was an artist. I probably have 200 paintings hanging in the side of the house that she painted. Um, dad was a silversmither. He carved wooden decoys and then painted them. You know, um, they were very gifted, both of them. Um, and, um, I have no desire to believe that house. I'm willing to work on it and, um, put it to, to create something that you feel is safe. Um, for the fire department, for me, um, for your pets, if you have animals or pets, your pets, your pets, your pets. I, not right now. I do not. Oh, that's it. I, I'm wanting, I, I need someone to love. So, um, I hope to have a dog in the next six months.
Um, so I don't know what else, what, what else can I tell you? What do you want to know? Well, I just think that you're going to need some type of assistance. Yes. That's how this is going to all come together. My medical team is fantastic. It's Reliant Medical Group, and, um, we are about to set someone up who's going to come into the house and help me with cleaning once a week. I'm thrilled. So, um, I will have help in the house. And, um, meanwhile, I'm able, I just have to pace myself. Well, we also have to take into consideration, uh, the safeness of the whole, hey, I know you can probably do what you can do, but we're worried again about you being safe in the house with all the things going on in your house or the roof there. We're worried about that. Well, and I'm worried about it. So we can help you some way, whether, you know, I don't know finances, what, however it's going to be, but we have to do something to help you. And whatever we decide, that's what we decide, but we, that's what we're, we are here for. So. Well, all I can say to you is it touches me that you want to help me and I appreciate that, but you will not help me if you tell me I cannot live in my home. You will not help me. Can I ask a question? How long have you been working on? It sounds like, uh, you've been working on the process for quite some time. If you had to estimate how many years has it been that you've been kind of trying to move along with, uh, kind of cleaning things out, working with the town, working with resources around town. Well, again, I can only do what I can do. How many years? Just an estimate. Well, the house has always been somewhat constricted. I mean, great grandparents, grandparents, parents, my things. Um, so I have been working on it, but only, only in a really serious way in like the last several months. And how has it been going? Um, good. I, I, I took one room and turned it from a chaotic mess into a very nice kitchen. And I'm working on another room that was basically a storage room. Um, and I'm moving things out of it, and I'm going to set it up as a, a workspace for myself. Um, I do many different things. I do many different things. I sew, I write, I compose music, I do florals. Um, so that room is going to be my work room, and, um, there'll be four stations in it for those four purposes. Um, so, um, I will do the best I can, and I don't think you can expect me to do more than that. Yeah, I can only do what I can do. I think, I think there just needs to be a timeline so that we, because the roof, as I understand it, I'm not in construction. But I understand the roof is not safe, and as the roof caves in, you're going to lose all your things, right? Okay, that's, oh, of course I do. Yeah, so that's, that's important to get done in some kind of structured timeframe. I'm working on that. I think that's what we're trying to help you with. So, it may seem like it's an infringement on your rights, but it's actually for the safety of yourself and your things in your house and the people coming to help you in the house, right? So, it's, no, the goal is not to get you out of the house, but to make the house safe for you to be there. Understand. Right? And that's noble.
So, we just have to go with the flow, because we all live in a community and a society and we have the rules. So, that's, that's the flow we have to go with. Right? So, does that make sense? There's a mingle order that is outstanding to be ratified. So, you know, that's, we have heard from G-Union. So, that, there are other items that are waiting for the agenda, so we should probably be forward with it. So, I guess to be facilitated. Councilor, we need a water to ratify the water, correct? That's correct. Yeah. But we need to ratify the partial condemnation. You don't have to ratify the other sanitary code violation. That's, that's not something the board needs. That's your health agent. But the partial condemnation of the, I think it's two rooms. Four. Four. Of the four rooms. So, we need a motion for that. Yep. Is that correct? So, it would be, I move to ratify the health department's partial condemnation of the property located at 10 short crimes. So, there's no move. So, move. So, well. Yep. All right. That goes through a roll call on that. Second. We need a second. Second. Roll call, John Stoyer. Yes. Dr. Genevina. Yes. Catherine Stift. Yes. Dr. Brett Mordas. Yes. And Dr. Bob Deidre, just go to save it. We wish you the best, okay? We wish you the best with your health and as you move forward in the process. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.
Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Nice to meet you. We'll come to the table. Yep.
We'll run a little plate. We've got, um, we have, uh, um, Bora Carter is, um, is, uh, zoomed in. Where are we? Uh, public health nurse. Oh, yeah, yeah. I have a job. Yep. Okay. Well, Julia, should I share my screen for the report? If you can, that would be great. Thank you. Okay.
We'll call you a comment. Yeah. Oh, did we miss that? Yeah, we did. I was going to send. Oh, okay. I don't think there's anything. There might be. All right. You can send me. Um, you want to make that announcement now? All right. We have anybody online for public comment.
I don't see anyone raising their house. Yes. All right. Jump to the first report. No, no. Okay. So, hi, y'all. I will try to breeze through the report here with a lot on the agenda this evening. Um, some cases of communicable disease, uh, we're used to influenza, which is, uh, going down in the community with still some, um, more frequent cases of influenza B at this point in time, um, a few cases of COVID-19, uh, a few of latent tuberculosis infection. And then at the top, you can see, uh, the one neurovirus, uh, case and one cryptosporidiosis case. So the crypto is a parasitic disease of the bowel. And that was related to, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh with another suspected norovirus cluster.
And so just a couple updates on influenza included a couple of the diagrams that you have seen from week to week as we've moved through the season. You can just see things slowing down with this recent peak. The totals for deaths this season in Massachusetts, I think, are always important. To point out, and I was looking at the comparison of previous seasons earlier today, and it was in the 400s last season. But of course, we still are moving through flu season here. So the Opioid Settlement Working Group is working on a sober curious event for Thursday, April 30th in the evening, an opportunity for folks to get together with non-alcoholic beverages and an opportunity for community gathering and a social event. So look out for a flyer and advertisement for that. The Metro West Medical Reserve Corps, or MRC, is looking to pick up momentum on volunteer recruitment and training. So we'll look to put some more information out about that. Some community vaccine messaging. So separately, I do have a document that you have available to you as well, with a draft for the Wayland Public Schools and a draft for the larger community. So I've put that draft to the superintendent and assistant superintendent to see if we may be able to move forward with that through the schools. And then there is that second message to the community. So if any of you have feedback on those messages, I am happy to hear those. Some continuing education and trainings that I attended or completed this month. And then lastly, for school health services, the Wayland Public Schools continue to partner with the Massachusetts Menstrual Equity Coalition, providing Wayland schools with menstrual products and educational resources, making sure that students have reliable stigma-free access that does then support better attendance at school, engagement, as well as health education, empowering students and advancing menstrual equity. We have also secured NEPHE, which is the nasal epinephrine for all of the Wayland Public Schools. So this will be stocked and the nurses, the school nurses are able to administer stock epinephrine if a previously undiagnosed student or staff were to have an allergy at school, allergic reaction at school. And then finally, we've been working with Wayland Public Schools tech director on next year's enrollment process to make sure that all of the proper information is collected from families in a way that also creates better access to resources as well. So working on that too. Any questions that I can help to answer?
Well, this is, the notification is great. Thank you. For school and community regarding the vaccinations. Great. Thank you.
Good questions. Good.
We're good, Marv. Very good. Take care. Thanks, Marv. Thanks. Sorry for the delay. No worries. No worries.
Thank you. All right. Going to 17th. 11th Way. Yep. 17th. 11th Way. Okay. Please stop.
Actually, thank you. I have some handouts, just in case folks need a refresher on some of the background of this property.
A lot of paper. I'm so sorry about that. That's why I'm waiting. And, you know, I don't want you to get buried in people. Thank you.
So the Shaw's are looking to install an upgraded septic system. And there, you know, it came up that there was a question regarding the number of bedrooms. And so they've done some homework and they've provided some background information regarding history of the property and the number of bedrooms, three versus four. Darren, I know, has been working with the owners and, you know, going through what would need to be done to move forward with a four-bedroom design that isn't necessarily looked at as new construction. It's a repair. You know, that's where the difference is. And if you folks want to chime in. So good evening. Yes. So we're here today because, right, we made a question, Brian, but we're here today personally to ask that the Hongby grandfather. And really, the reason for that is we can't look forward to cornerstone engineering unless we are grandfathered for a four-bedroom septic system in the front yard to replace the three-bedroom septic system in the backyard, which happens to be located in the wetland. Well, not the wetlands, but the buffer zone of the wetlands. So we're kind of steering away from that and trying to make as much as possible headway in doing it in the front yard. And that's been much of the practice in our neighborhood. In fact, the neighbors on each side of us have run into the same problem. And they have both moved their septic systems to the front yard, and it seems to have worked for them. So we thought, well, yeah, that's probably the way to go. So I know other neighbors have worked in the backyard, but it just doesn't have any appeal for making it. Yeah. I'm sure the conservation ones, it is far away from any of those areas. It's really too close. There's a brook running back there. And the soils are probably more poor. And the water table is a little higher. The water table is higher, quite higher. Is the water table high in the front yard as well? Well, I don't think so. No. Is the front yard higher? Oh, yeah, much higher. It's on a little hill. Okay. It's on a hill. And, yeah, we had, I didn't really know what was down there until they dug out like a 15-foot pit hole for the coat test. And I got a good look at it. But it's not, I don't, you know, it's not a fantastic draining area, I mean, quite honestly. And so the problem is, in moving to the front yard, we've still got to have a really good, innovative system that's going to counter the slow percolation test that we got. And we're perfectly, you know, amenable to that. That's going to have to happen.
But as I say, we're kind of held a little bit, held up right now until we get grandfathered. And that supposedly takes out some of the restrictions on variances or set-offs, so on. So we're going to need that because it's not a big area. But it's equivalent to what the houses on either side of us have. And they made it work, so I'd like to make it work, too. No, we would. And why do you think putting it in the backyard would be bad aesthetically? Well, it's, it's a very, it's the nicest part of the property, actually, because there's a deck there that overlooks it. And then there's the wetlands and the woods before you get over the white road. It's really, it's really a nice piece of property. And it seemed like a shame to have to mound that. I've seen some of the mounding that's been done in the neighborhood. It's pretty significant. Well, if they mound your front yard, it's not going to be so good either. No, it's... Well, actually, the front yard, because it's such a slope, they can mound it, and then we'd have a stone wall at the road. Okay. So there's a lot of space in the front that we don't have in the back, as far as... And will you have to move your water line? Yes. And our driveway. That's quite extensive. Yeah. It's really a costly process. Yes, it is. That's the way it goes. The state, you know, the states give quite a bit of money for that. Well, I think we could do it, but it's just... No, I'm just saying, Julia... Yes, there is a tax credit for a failed system. So once you get, you know, through that process, it will be... Okay, and so it would be great to have the option to maintain the historic pattern of a four-bedroom that's been there for over 50 years. 30, 48, and for us, 50, we've been around a while. Oh, that's a while, half a century. Kids through the round school system. So we've been happy to... Very happy there, and we've used it as a four-bedroom, so we've got no complaints, just trying to address the problem. Based on Darren's review of everything, he is recommending that the house be grandfathered as a four-bedroom, so they can do the four-bedroom septicless care. All right, so everybody doesn't have any questions. John, do you have any questions? If somebody wants to make a motion? I make a motion to grandfather the property at 17 Sylvan Way as a four-bedroom. I second. Roll call. Dr. Brent Poiris? Yes. Catherine Stiff? Yes. Dr. Genevieve Annar? Yes. John Scarlett? Yes. Dr. Brent Poiris, that's approved. All right, thank you. Thank you. Sorry for the delay. I'm going to throw it. It's cracking on us. We just slipped there a little bit. We'll catch up. Well, you were supposed to be on our last agenda. Right. I think it was something. He went for a night. It was a blender. Is one of your children Sam Shaw? Sam, no. Oh, okay. No. Never mind. That was somebody I went to school with.
We have Sam Shaw, but we don't have a Sam Shaw. We have a John Shaw. Thanks for coming in. Thank you, too. Sam Shaw. That guy's just nuts. All right. Let's move on to... Sam Bucco? Is he on there? He is. Okay. Yes. Hi, Julia. Hi. Sorry for the delay. No problem. I appreciate the time.
So, this is similar to... We're at 106 Concord now, agenda item. This is similar to another property we had recently on the agenda where, you know, they're working on a septic design and a project on their home, and they would like to move forward with the building project before the septic system gets installed, with the understanding that the new replacement system would be required to be installed within a maximum of three years, as allowed by the permit. And, Nick, if you'd like to say a few things. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Thank you, everyone, for your time. So, I'll be quick. I know we're bumping up against the time here. My wife and I are looking to put a couple of bedrooms over our garage. It isn't a new ad by any means. We just want to make our kids' bedrooms a little bit larger. We're not changing the footprint of the house. As a result, what we need to do is we need to upgrade our septic. So, we've gone down that path in terms of getting a septic plant in place. We've had a number of percolation tests done for, in total, different areas of the yard. All of them were not great spots for the septic. I guess there's a lot of play and a lot of fill that isn't particularly conducive. On top of that, we actually also bumped into, in the back, a conservation in wetland. So, we need a variance, and I believe we received permission to put the septic in the northwest part of our yard. My ask of the board today is for the, I believe, three years allowance so that we can save up the necessary funds to have the septic put in. Our current septic, to give you an idea of the scope of the issue, our current septic is under our gazebo and our deck. So, the old, the prior homeowner, they built a deck and a gazebo right on top of it. As a result, that needs to be torn up, and we need to have that, the septic underneath it taken care of at the same time before the new septic is put in. On top of that, the septic is where we put in the back. My wife has a large garden, which we would need to pay to have taken out and removed. And then, lastly, we had two sets of PERC tests. So, four 16-foot holes dug up in our yard, and as a result, we need to have it re-graded. To be honest, at this point, the costs are quite high. I fully subscribe to having the septic upgraded, and I'm happy for the allowance to be able to do that. My concern is we haven't even begun the project yet, and at least by way of my engineer's estimates, this is going to be quite costly. So, I'm asking the board for a couple of years to be able to save up the funds, once the renovation is completed, be able to save up the funds, and be able to afford the upgrade to my septic. I'm happy to answer any questions. Is the current septic system working? Or, I don't remember. If I heard correctly, I believe you're asking if my current septic is working. Is that correct? Yeah. Did it pass? No issues. No, it passed. I even did a, keep me honest, really, a Title V, Title something to instruct the septic. Yeah, probably a Title V report, yeah. Yes, yes, thank you. So, I did that as proof. Same number of people in the house as there was before going forward? Same number of bedrooms. So, essentially, my, I have three kids, it's a four-bedroom house, two of the bedrooms, one is 89 square feet, the other, I think, is 96, both under 100 square feet. Essentially, again, not changing the footprint, just want to build out over the garage and make the bedrooms a little bit larger for the kids. What were they?
I understand it's because of the construction of the addition on your house, and that's what's triggering the. Yes. Yes, if I don't misspeak, it's over the percentage rule of the original footprint. I believe I'm just over that, so that's why I'm here in front of you today. Square footage, yeah. It'll be slightly bigger. Bigger bedrooms. Right. Yes, yes.
You're aware that there's a pretty good tax credit for replacing septic systems that may or may not be available to you in three years? I don't know. I think it's for failed systems. Right. Is it? Yeah, I can get a set of funds. Okay. There's, and I may be speaking out of turn, but there's some sort of financial assistance. My concern is that this is already meaningfully, I already spent over $9,000 just to get septic plants in place now. My understanding is there may be soil that needs to be removed and soil that is brought in, and that is, if I'm going based off of my engineer, that could be five to ten grand a load just to move dirt. So I'm not 100% clear on the extent of the expenses, but I know they are atypical. I'm not 100% clear on the motion. I'm not 100% clear on the motion. Julie, do we have any way of, I mean, you can't, is there any way to prevent property transfer? Is there any reason that, that there wouldn't, that we wouldn't want to do this? Um, if there was a property transfer, they would need to have a title five done, and that would, you know, trigger, you know, we would be following the project to make sure that the septic is installed as well. And so there are some safety measures, um, in place, you know, for projects like this, where, you know, they'll be reoccupying their home, and then, you know, there's a process for making sure that septic design, especially if the board votes, you know, make sure those minutes are in the file and things like that attract the purposes. So it would be a motion to extend the, or allow for three years, maximum. So it would be, um, just to make sure I got the correct, just to, yeah, it's right on the, um, on this form at the bottom there, basically, the, um. So I make a motion for 106 Concord Road, that, uh, the proposed building project, project before replacement of the septic system has been installed, uh, qualifying for the exemption allowed in the regulations, with the understanding the new replacement septic system would be required to be installed and certified within a maximum of three years, as allowed by the septic firm. We have a second? Second. Second. Second. Second. Right. Second. To roll call. John Stark. Yes. Dr. Javenna. Yes. Kathleen Stim. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Dr. Bob Deez and the chesco. It's approved.
That's great, guys. Thank you so much for your, your help. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for waiting. Thank you. Yep. Thanks, Julia.
So we've got. Sure. Yep. So, uh, 37 to 45 Wellham Street. The, the, the, the school. expansion project. And, you know, tonight we're here to basically to touch base on the mounding analysis that was done by Sean Malone from Oak Consulting Group and also with our peer reviewer Jason Friel from ECT Incorporated. So we can hear from probably Sean first. Thank you, Sean. Sorry for the delay. We have little overage on our agenda items tonight. It happens all the time, I'm sure. Just for the record, Sean Malone Consulting Group, I'm the civil engineer for the Carroll School Project. So I don't really have any presentation, I guess. So my understanding is that the board wanted to discuss the mounding analysis. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. So as the board may or may not know, so our design flow under the Title V is about 3,300 gallons per day under the Whalen bylaw. It's about 49.50. Anything over 2,000 gallons per day per Title V has to then be subject to a mounding analysis. So we have gone ahead and done that. We dug, I think, a total of 14 test pits out on the site while we're looking at different areas. So we're able to determine and we found that the soils there are all very coarse sands, very well draining. So going into this, we knew that the mound wasn't going to be much of anything. So what we did is we utilized the hand-touche method, which is a standard method for determining a mound in a case like this. Um, we used the, uh, in determining the recharge rate, we used our Title V flow. Um, we used, uh, for the specific yield of the soils, um, the coarse sands. We went through published data and, um, went on the low, low end of, um, that data for input into the, into the, the, the model. Same for the hydraulic conductivity, um, the size of the field, x and y, that's determined that, you know, size of the field, pretty self-explanatory. Um, so basically, uh, the result is that, um, with the maximum flow, the design flow to this field, uh, we may see a mound of up to 0.128 feet, uh, above the groundwater level. We then added that number to the estimated seasonal high groundwater, which was really, we know, we didn't find any groundwater except for one hole, but where the, um, where the, the, the field's going, we didn't find any groundwater. So the estimated seasonal high groundwater is, um, the bottom of the hole. Um, so we added that one 0.128 to that estimated seasonal high groundwater table and then made sure we had five feet of separation to the bottom of the field to that elevation, five feet, because we are in a, uh, a rapid per, less than two minutes per inch. Um, so we've submitted all this, uh, we submitted the final plans for Darren. Darren seems satisfied. He actually emailed me, uh, um, this afternoon, there was two typos that I need to correct on, uh, one of the sheets, but, um, other than that, we have, uh, uh, fully title five compliant, uh, design.
Thank you, uh, Sean. Um, we had, so we had through the planning board, um, process, um, he seats Jason, who's involved with peer reviews for this project and did the peer review for the title five, um, mound for the septic system. And Jason, thank you for waiting tonight. We're sorry about the delay. Um, you could just chime in on, um, the work that's been done to get to where we're at with the design. Yeah, I think Sean generally covered it. It was, um, I think the only thing, Sean, I don't know if you mentioned was it's a Presby system, uh, for the soil absorption system. It's a dosed field. Um, there was, uh, uh, uh, relative redesign, um, from the initial review that we did back in the fall to, to effectively what has been, uh, presented now. Um, I won't speak for, for Darren, but I, I basically told me the same thing, which is, uh, all the components of the septic are generally compliant. We would agree. Any comments that we had had previously have been addressed. Um, and with regard to the mounding analysis, we did review, uh, what Sean just described to you. Um, we looked at all the published values. We looked at the site conditions. Uh, we concur that the, uh, you threw me Sean, because I, I was, I remember it in inches that it's, uh, I think about 0.15 inches, um, to which the, the septic field, uh, our final comments was to, were to adjust the septic field elevations to account for that very small amount of mounding at the center of the field. Um, that has been done. That is in the final set of plans that I believe you have in front of you. Um, real quick, that was really the only, the, the mounding was consistent and acceptable and meets the requirements. I'm trying to think real quick. I'm just looking at my notes. Um, there was a condition, I believe it's on there for, um, and Sean, I believe you agreed to do two additional test pits, uh, based on the flow rate being above 2000 gallons per day. Uh, a third test pit was required in both the reserve and the primary field. And, uh, I believe Sean, you put it, you've added a note to, I believe, 601, C601 for that. That's correct. Yeah. Uh, one other note was there is a question about some potential for dry wells and main maintaining setbacks to those dry wells. Um, Sean, in, in coordinating with Darren and, and providing us that information, uh, there have been, there is a buffer, uh, shown a 25 foot buffer shown on the drawings with a note that clearly states that that area will be investigated, uh, downspouts and dry wells will be investigated. And if there are any located within that area, they would be moved. Um, ECT is, finds that acceptable, uh, if the board does. I think Julia, that's pretty much what I had on, on that. If there's any other questions. If the board has any questions, I don't have any questions. Um, John, no, we wanted to just, you know, have a formal conversation. I know the planning board is, uh, looking to make a decision on this project and I believe this week. And so it was timely that we had the opportunity to meet tonight and, um, the board could take a vote to support the work that's been done on the mounding analysis that, um, that, um, we have done, you know, our diligence on and Darren will, um, finish up the, you know, few typos that need to be modified on the design and then he'll be able to sign up on the plans. Do that. So we just need a motion. The motion to, um, accept the mounting analysis. Is that all we need? I make motion to accept the mounting analysis for, um, the Carroll School acceptance plan. Do you have a second? Second.
Dr. Genevieve Annem? Yes. Dr. Brett Mordas? Yes. Yes. Katie Sip? Yes. John Stoyer? Yes. And Dr. Botti-Franchesco. That's approved. Thank you very much. All right. Thank you so much, y'all. Have a good night.
So it's interesting. This is, um, it's Lincoln Water here. It's not Wayland Water. I think I remember that too, the original plans at school. Yeah. I tore down the house that was there. Oh, you did? Oh, wow. Do you know where the garage is? The mechanics garage? I mean, I, I did do a site visit when they originally were planning on taking that property, but... The next door property? Oh, oh, yeah. So they bought this and then they bought, they bought a next door property and I tore that house down. Oh. But I was surprised that that was the Lincoln Water. Yeah. Yeah. There's a couple of those in town. Um, so health director updates. Um, we did receive the Eversource, uh, vegetative management plan and I haven't fully looked at it, but it does show where there are some, um, private wells in town. I'm going to double check them. That's usually what the exercise we go through and just double check and it seems like they have a lot of wells shown on here. So maybe they upgraded their ability to, you know, show them on here. But the, um, right of way that they're looking at is the one that goes through, um, Stonebridge Road area where Oak Hill neighborhood is. Um, so it's sort of on the cusp of the Wayland Sudbury border. And, um, um, really it's just that neighborhood where the, um, right of way is. And, you know, this is part of their notification process for, um, their plans to do foliage treatments between June 1st and October 18th, along with cut surface treatments, um, fall cut surface treatments, basal treatments, or sensitive foliar treatments may be necessary and are scheduled between October and 1st and December 31st in areas along the right of way that may not have received a foliar treatment for two trees over 12 feet tall. So that could be something, you know, the folks in that neighborhood may not necessarily like. Um, I don't know how recently tree trimming has been done in that area, but there are tree, you know, there were trees there at one point and if they don't, you know, I don't know how often they trim them. So it could be something people notice, but they are notified as part of the process from Eversource. So as well as the municipality. And then obviously the, uh, exact time and weather conditions will determine the, you know, when things actually take place. So they give us 45 days to, um, comment if there are any comments and, you know, I'll just go through and double check the wells that they've shown. Um, talking about housing complaints. Um, we do have a few other ones that we're working on for whatever reason, a lot of housing things going on right now. So we've got a situation at 10 Hazen Lane. We've got something at 73 OXBO and then we've got something else that under the housing authority properties. Um, so, you know, we're actively starting to work on all three of those, including the housing situation we talked about tonight. So that does put a drain on our resources available to do other work because, um, you know, we don't have like a housing inspector. That would be me or Darren or Ann Marie, but Ann is, um, not here every day. So, um, when she's in, you know, she's able to help us. But, um, food inspection updates. Oh my gosh.
Here are, so we haven't met in person in a while. And that's why there's so much stuff here. And I apologize. I should start earlier. Um, it was a little stressful earlier. Um, so Beth has been doing her, you know, rounds of food inspection this time of year. We do see, um, some, you know, restaurants that have pest problems. Um, sorry, is China Rose doing okay? Uh, China Rose, uh, I don't think they've had any necessary inspections recently. Um, so basically operate, you know, standard operating process. Um, we did have, um, a problem with some pests at Jindu that is being addressed with task management plan. Um, those are the, that's the one that I didn't know about. Um, and so best working with them on that. We have an update on a legal order for six and eight Damon road and 76 main street. Although, um, as a reminder, we had given them a formal board extension to January 14th of 26, which has now expired. I know that they've been working on a design.
Sure. Oh, that's okay. Sorry. Do you need assistance? I'm sorry. Do you need to sign? Um, I don't think you need to sign every page. I mean, that's a little too much, but I know that the board wanted to see some of the bills. Um, and if you want, I can pause so that you can actually look at them without distraction to me or whatever you'd like to do. Okay. So, um, I know they're actively working on a septic design, but it hasn't been finished or installed yet. And we're already in March. So, um, they formally requested to stop, um, you know, I think ease up on their pumping a little bit, which I'm a little leery of. Although David Schofield, their engine, their, um, sanitarian has ensured me that, um, he is going to observe the conditions and the premises to make sure that if there's pumping needed, that it will, that will happen as soon as possible to prevent any breakout. And, uh, Dan Regan from Regan septic pumpings would be their pumper and tingling. And so, um, that was this letter that we received from, David Schofield. So I wanted to make sure the board knew about that. And, um, I think one of the cesspools is a little bit worse than the other. So, you know, the way the order was written, it was as needed. So if weekly is needed, then it's weekly. If daily is needed, then it's daily. You know, I mean, whatever it takes, because we can't have occupied buildings with tenants and cesspools breaking out and stuff to set the ground. So this is basically saying like, I have a back here. Well, right now it's being monitored by David Schofield. And so he was hired by the owners, the owner of the properties and he's going to be monitoring it. And hopefully that will help move things along more quickly because I think they're seeing a high cost for all the pumping that's needed. And the longer they wait, the more pumping needs to be done. So, um,
you know, these mental health services, are these for, are just people that need, which one is that? That's HRFs. Yeah. They are contracted by the town. Okay. On to, if the board's ready for the next update, um, green burial.
And the select boards are, uh, annual town meeting item. So I think I shared it with you all, but I hope it would be probably a part of that just in case you wanted a lot of pressure.
Basically this article is to, um, avoid anyone who is interested in a green burial, um,
town meeting would be avoided. It wouldn't need to go to town meeting. Um, so let me see. Uh, it goes to the select and the board of health. And so this board would be involved as well as the select board. I just wanted to make sure the board was aware. Um, um, we would likely go through a similar process that we did last time. Um, so we might want to think through any, um, guidelines we might want. Um, if this becomes something that's a popular topic in town. Although since I've worked here, we've seen one of these, so I don't know if it would be, but I'm just bringing it to your attention that the select board would be the proven authority and the board of health would be involved as well through a public hearing process. Okay. 289 Boston post road. And that is where the new building donuts will be and the sub shop. And so, um, this is goes back to the contamination that was over at 298 Boston post road where there's dry cleaners. And as I started to dig through, you know, we saw a terrain where they had to do some work and now we're seeing it at this property where this flume of contamination is coming across the street from the dry cleaners. I started looking through the file because there is, um, some correspondence in here from DEP where we were notified that they were asking for an extension on, uh, compliance and work that needed to be done over there. This was in 2022. And when I looked it up on the tracking site, the, um, state's site where you can look up a tracking number to, you know, find out about any hazardous waste bills. There's really nothing in there since that date, which is very concerning to me. So I don't know what's happened, but, um, starting to look into it to find out what's going on at the dry cleaners and why nothing has happened since 2022. Did you say there's a new Dunkin Donuts? Yes. Where? It's where the, um, Bank of America used to be, um, right in front of where terrain will be. Yeah. So undercut over 20. July or August. Are you turning? Uh, I don't know when they're starting gangbusters over there. What? Yeah. When is the new inflation? July or August. Okay. Well, that's why, uh, that's interesting. I know, right? How do you know that? Uh, back in. Are you invited? I'm just kidding. I have somebody that I know has worked on the project. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, it's, um, looks like a very, uh, high end, beautiful, um, addition to driving through town. So if you look on Instagram, you see the pictures. They're incredible. Yeah. It'll be, um, well, it's, it's, it's a waterway over there. So if you're driving down Pelham Island, and you look to the right where the back of the old, old foods was, that's all going to be updated with trains, um, plants. They'll probably have some, you know, like outdoor views. They might look on that bridge and they would have been. I don't know. So, um, so there's that. And, um, once I have more information, I'll update the board further about the dry cleaners, um, situation. But we did receive reports from the, um, 289 Boston Post Road on work that they're, you know, being required to do investigating and there is, you know, still there's contamination there. And so, you know, I'm following what will be required for them to do over there. Um, or, you know, whether it's more testing or other, um, investigation, they have hired an LSP and, um, Sage Environmental is involved. And so, um, they will be acting as their agents for, um, the work that needs to be done or any testing.
And if anyone was interested in seeing, you know, some of the documentation related to that, I have, you know, quite a bit of it with maps that show where, you know, some of the monitoring wells are and where the plume is. And so, um, that's my update on that. Um, the EP letter to water superintendents.
This was a letter we received on February 20th, um, where they're doing some, um, updating to the happy hollow pilot stainless steel piping upgrades. Um, and they needed a, um, emergency declaration to utilize the, um, MWRA water in the interim where this work is being done. So it's, I would think coming up soon where they were working on that. I haven't heard an update of when exactly the piping would be, um, completed, but it looks like the extension is granted until April 26th. So
there was that. And then this was just a copy of the mass DEP letter, um, approving the low variance for the high school, which, um, I wasn't sure if the board had ever received a copy of this, but I wanted to make sure you saw it. This was from November 25th. It just memorializes the flows that we talked about in our board meeting when Abby Charest, the town engineer, came for us. And, um, she went to the select board a couple of weeks ago. They were going to, I think, um,
present to the select board their plans to, uh, update the septic system there. And it's a significant project. They will be coming to the board of health for an approval because we would, you'll need to sign the permit and we'll share that information with the board. Once we have a plan, we haven't received any plans yet, but, um, I think they were looking to use a debt exclusion and, um, to pay for it, which I don't think the select select board approved that. And so it would be part of the levy. Or I could have it the other way around. Um, let me see if I just verify what my student thing was. Make sure you know what's going on with that. The, the select board is supporting the project. They just aren't paying for it with excluded debt. So it doesn't have to be on the town meeting articles. It will be paid for with levy debt. Okay. So that's what's happening. I just, um, know that people are talking about money. So I guess just being aware of what's going on with a big project like that is helpful. Um, and then, um, we've got all the bills and then sets of minutes. Well, I guess we can approve the minutes. Yeah. As long as everyone, I don't know if there was a chance. Did everybody read the, uh, minutes? Yeah. Okay. Okay. So for August 11th, 2025, give a motion to approve.
Make a motion to approve, uh, four to four minutes from August 11th. Do we have a second? Second. Okay. Okay. John Stoyer. Yes. Dr. Genevieve Annette. Yes. Kevin Stitt. Yes. Dr. Brett Fortis. Yes. Dr. Bob DeFontesco is for August 11th, 2025 approved.
September 15th, 2025. Make a motion to approve the minutes. I make a motion to approve the September 15th, 2025 minutes. Do we have a second? Second. Dr. John Stoyer. Yes. Dr. Genevieve Annette. Yes. Catherine Stitt. Yes. Dr. Brett Fortis. Yes. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. That's approved September 15th, 2025 minutes.
Great. I think that's it. Yep. Unless there's any other questions or? Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Is it your car moving? They are actually guests. I don't know. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Yeah. They're around moving over to where the bagel table gets to be. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Yeah. Dr. So that's great. I mean, I think that'll be a nice change in there. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Yeah. It'll be pretty far too. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Oh wow. Then hopefully they're, you know, I think the new town center owners are hoping to, you know, probably at a different restaurant to where they're old ones to speak. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Yeah. That's correct. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Yeah. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Yeah. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. They're great. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Do you need all the stuff yet? Dr. Bob DeFontesco. I don't know if you've heard about that? Dr. Bob DeFontesco. So far you've seen it. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Child. You've got attention. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. You know the candle for them, do you? Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Probably. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Oh yeah. I do. Yeah. Their son is a sophomore at Purdue University. Oh, yeah. He was at a frat party last two weeks ago. He jumped in like a makeshift pool. Oh, no. That was paralyzed. He's 19, 19 years old. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, that's terrible. So we're doing a thing at St. Catharines Church, like a pasta dinner. Oh, okay. For the town. There's a foundation out there. Already we did it. But do we need a permit? They have the little pantry now. Where is St. Catharines Church? Not St. John, St. Anne's. Oh, oh. Right near the city berth. I mean, is it a public event? Probably. Yeah. That's good. Just the hotel. So who's to facilitate? South Dakota. Oh, okay. So probably just Jenna's the one that does all the coordinating for events. Do you know what's happening? Yeah. Yeah. April. That's what's going on. Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah. April 11th. Saturday after the mess. Okay. So they get a spotlight. Okay. That's really. That's true. He's not going to. Yeah. Yeah. Do you even know it? Well, he said they flew a bit from Indiana, U, 7-2, Smallwood now. Wow. You see this stuff on shows, but you know, you know. Like a local friend of mine is at Purdue University. It's a charity party, generally pooled that big, a little pool. Stamps, LLV. Four, six, it's paralyzed now. Headcount. Yeah. It's a shadow. Sure. So. Like in the hall, the one. Well, definitely lower. It's got a little bit of a little pain load on the upper cut. It's just tragic. Unless you build that burst or something. Maybe you don't think so. And it's just, you know, one of those pools that can blow out through that full of water or a party and a piece of rain. Great. It's probably one adverse. No. I'm scared. I knew somebody that stood on the cab of a pickup truck and dove into the bed. It was full of water. Was that you? No. You're looking at me like, I don't want to admit it. There's images. Okay. Well, we're still looking at this. So once we've finished that, then someone can make a motion. Motion to Jordan. Tell me twice. Is that a motion? Oh, a second motion. I make a motion to close the meeting for tonight. Second. Yes. I second. Dr. Genevina. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Happy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
John Stoyer. Yes. Dr. Genevina. Here. Katie Stent. Here. Dr. Brett Mordas. Here. And Dr. Bhatti Francisco. That's all this here. Okay. So, we are going to go into executive session. We need a motion for executive session. Executives, when we get out of executive session, I mean, when we, we will go back into open meeting after the executive session. So, let's have a motion for executive session. I make a motion to move into executive session. We have a second? Are we going to do it? Yeah. You had to read the proper setback. That would be next. Okay. Go ahead. Enter into executive session. Persevering to GLC 30AS 21A3 to discuss potential litigation regarding enforcement of the partial condemnation of property located at the insure drive where a discussion in open session would have detrimental effect on the town litigation position. And the chair so declares. I declare. So, we won't be last time. I declare. Okay. So, we're a second. Second. No, I second. Fall in favor? To roll call. Yeah. Okay. Dr. John Stoyer? Yes. Dr. Genevieve Annan? Yes. Katie Stiff? Yes. Dr. Brett Boyce? Yes. All right. Well, I'm sorry. So, we're now in executive session. We're good to go. Thank you. All right.
Good evening. Hello. How are you? I'm well. How are you? Thank you. Welcome. Thank you. Can you state your name? Gene Preston. Gene Preston. Welcome. Okay. So, we're here tonight to talk a little bit about what's happening at the house here. So, we are welcoming any information you'd like to give us because I guess we missed some information from you. Previous session from weather and stuff like that. So, we want to know a little bit about what's happening at the house so the board can make some decisions to help you, too. Well, the house is a family home, been in the family for over 100 years, and we had a compound, my great-grandparents' home, my grandparents' home, and then my parents, and I was moved into the house when I was three months old. So, we had this lovely arrangement, and as people passed on, you know, things kind of were passed from one house to another, and there is a lot of stuff stored at the house. We have a full basement, and there are things down there and things on the ground level, and I'm working to try to, you know, sort through and decide what I can live without and see what needs to stay. Board wants to start up with any questions. That's the team.
Okay. It seems like the more significant problem to the clutter is things like roof leaks and lack of heat in rooms. I'm working on the roof repair. I'm talking to different vendors who provide those kinds of services to see what I can put together. We went through an electric crisis, and that is completely repaired now. There's reports of extension cords running around. Does that mean that they didn't get some of the outlets going? Well, here's that extension cords. I have a lot of curiosity about that. Why are you so phobic about extension cords?
They're sold everywhere. Every big box store, every home improvement store, I don't fear extension cords.
So the problem is with an extension cord and, you know, in rooms where there are a lot of items, the pressure from the weight and the items on top of a cord can create a weakness in those wires, and it could cause fire. Well, there's only one that was pointed out to me, and it was in the middle hall, that was plugged in, and it runs under a rug to supply electricity on the other side. So I haven't done that one yet, but I don't have a problem with getting rid of that. Does the heat work in the house? Of course it does. Yeah. There's one room that never had heat. It's just not installed in it? It was just never installed? It was never installed. It was originally a deck, and then it was, you know, filled in and turned into a room, but no heat was ever supplied to that room. And then there is one room that the cord froze, but the, not the cord, I beg your pardon, the pipe. The pipe froze in one of the bedrooms, and I just haven't prepared that. But smock is going to be coming to the house and looking for ways that they can provide assistance to me. And I'm certain that they will do that, and I'm certain that they will do that, is re-attach the water pipes to water pipes. And what is your plan for the roof? Well, my plan for the roof is to re-roof it. And I have tried a number of different ways to approach that. So, I received an estimate. I had four people come and give me an estimate for a new roof, four different estimates. The people I liked best were also the people who had the most reasonable estimate. And so, I have to, I have to find a way to get a loan to pay for the roof. That's basically where we are, on the roof.
So, we understand you've been working with the town and support services to clear out some of the things in the house, because it causes a risk to the firefighters when they come in to help you. Yes, I know. So, that's one of the big issues. And I understand you have an emotional attachment to the property and the homes and the things in there. But you, I'm sure you have trouble hearing you. I understand you have an emotional attachment to the house and items that might be there. But you've been working with someone from the Council on Aging through that process. Yes. So, how is that going for you? Because I think that's also one of the big worries. Well, some things have gone out the door to be donated to people in need. And that will continue. And so, it's just, I am about to have my 79th birthday. And I have medical problems and I am working as best I can and as expediently as I can. But it's going to take time. It's going to take time. And I have spinal stenosis, four vertebrae. And I found out that I had spinal stenosis. I was walking inside the house and suddenly I was on the floor. And I had no idea why, how. And so, at my age, I have medical problems. And, but I'm, I feel like I'm doing very well given my age. I'm working on the house. Do you have any family that's helping you? There's no one in the area, dear. No, my, I, my only family that's left is my sister and she's in Florida. So, so part of our goals and meeting with you and, and, you know, having the team here is to make it safe for you and also for firefighters and other people that might need to come in and help you. And I understand your pain, suffering, that it's, it's, you know, it sounds like we just have the energy to do what we need to do, right? I am, my energy level is pretty good. But, I mean, I don't work the way I did when I was 30 years younger. And, um, I will do the best I can. So, we're just trying to help, really, to make it safe for you and for the downed people, especially the firefighters. Absolutely. I don't want, um, anyone to be in danger. And I, I certainly love and respect the EMTs and don't wish anything to be threatening them. We're also concerned about you, dear. Right. That's the big thing. Well. You know, you, you have a lot of things going on in the house that I can see. We're worried about that and making the decision on how this has been outstanding work that's been there for a while. And we're worried not only about the town and the fire department, but we're also worried about you, something happening to you. So, that has to become part of our decision of what we should do for you. So, that's important. Well, I, um, I, I don't want to lose my house. It's my family home. It's filled with beautiful things that were created by my, my family. And, um, my mother was an artist. I probably have 200 paintings hanging in the side of the house that she painted. Um, dad was a silversmither. He carved wooden decoys and then painted them. You know, um, they were very gifted, both of them. Um, and, um, I have no desire to believe that house. I'm willing to work on it and, um, put it to, to create something that you feel is safe. Um, for the fire department, for me, um, for your pets, if you have animals or pets, your pets, your pets, your pets. I, not right now. I do not. Oh, that's it. I, I'm wanting, I, I need someone to love. So, um, I hope to have a dog in the next six months.
Um, so I don't know what else, what, what else can I tell you? What do you want to know? Well, I just think that you're going to need some type of assistance. Yes. That's how this is going to all come together. My medical team is fantastic. It's Reliant Medical Group, and, um, we are about to set someone up who's going to come into the house and help me with cleaning once a week. I'm thrilled. So, um, I will have help in the house. And, um, meanwhile, I'm able, I just have to pace myself. Well, we also have to take into consideration, uh, the safeness of the whole, hey, I know you can probably do what you can do, but we're worried again about you being safe in the house with all the things going on in your house or the roof there. We're worried about that. Well, and I'm worried about it. So we can help you some way, whether, you know, I don't know finances, what, however it's going to be, but we have to do something to help you. And whatever we decide, that's what we decide, but we, that's what we're, we are here for. So. Well, all I can say to you is it touches me that you want to help me and I appreciate that, but you will not help me if you tell me I cannot live in my home. You will not help me. Can I ask a question? How long have you been working on? It sounds like, uh, you've been working on the process for quite some time. If you had to estimate how many years has it been that you've been kind of trying to move along with, uh, kind of cleaning things out, working with the town, working with resources around town. Well, again, I can only do what I can do. How many years? Just an estimate. Well, the house has always been somewhat constricted. I mean, great grandparents, grandparents, parents, my things. Um, so I have been working on it, but only, only in a really serious way in like the last several months. And how has it been going? Um, good. I, I, I took one room and turned it from a chaotic mess into a very nice kitchen. And I'm working on another room that was basically a storage room. Um, and I'm moving things out of it, and I'm going to set it up as a, a workspace for myself. Um, I do many different things. I do many different things. I sew, I write, I compose music, I do florals. Um, so that room is going to be my work room, and, um, there'll be four stations in it for those four purposes. Um, so, um, I will do the best I can, and I don't think you can expect me to do more than that. Yeah, I can only do what I can do. I think, I think there just needs to be a timeline so that we, because the roof, as I understand it, I'm not in construction. But I understand the roof is not safe, and as the roof caves in, you're going to lose all your things, right? Okay, that's, oh, of course I do. Yeah, so that's, that's important to get done in some kind of structured timeframe. I'm working on that. I think that's what we're trying to help you with. So, it may seem like it's an infringement on your rights, but it's actually for the safety of yourself and your things in your house and the people coming to help you in the house, right? So, it's, no, the goal is not to get you out of the house, but to make the house safe for you to be there. Understand. Right? And that's noble.
So, we just have to go with the flow, because we all live in a community and a society and we have the rules. So, that's, that's the flow we have to go with. Right? So, does that make sense? There's a mingle order that is outstanding to be ratified. So, you know, that's, we have heard from G-Union. So, that, there are other items that are waiting for the agenda, so we should probably be forward with it. So, I guess to be facilitated. Councilor, we need a water to ratify the water, correct? That's correct. Yeah. But we need to ratify the partial condemnation. You don't have to ratify the other sanitary code violation. That's, that's not something the board needs. That's your health agent. But the partial condemnation of the, I think it's two rooms. Four. Four. Of the four rooms. So, we need a motion for that. Yep. Is that correct? So, it would be, I move to ratify the health department's partial condemnation of the property located at 10 short crimes. So, there's no move. So, move. So, well. Yep. All right. That goes through a roll call on that. Second. We need a second. Second. Roll call, John Stoyer. Yes. Dr. Genevina. Yes. Catherine Stift. Yes. Dr. Brett Mordas. Yes. And Dr. Bob Deidre, just go to save it. We wish you the best, okay? We wish you the best with your health and as you move forward in the process. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.
Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Nice to meet you. We'll come to the table. Yep.
We'll run a little plate. We've got, um, we have, uh, um, Bora Carter is, um, is, uh, zoomed in. Where are we? Uh, public health nurse. Oh, yeah, yeah. I have a job. Yep. Okay. Well, Julia, should I share my screen for the report? If you can, that would be great. Thank you. Okay.
We'll call you a comment. Yeah. Oh, did we miss that? Yeah, we did. I was going to send. Oh, okay. I don't think there's anything. There might be. All right. You can send me. Um, you want to make that announcement now? All right. We have anybody online for public comment.
I don't see anyone raising their house. Yes. All right. Jump to the first report. No, no. Okay. So, hi, y'all. I will try to breeze through the report here with a lot on the agenda this evening. Um, some cases of communicable disease, uh, we're used to influenza, which is, uh, going down in the community with still some, um, more frequent cases of influenza B at this point in time, um, a few cases of COVID-19, uh, a few of latent tuberculosis infection. And then at the top, you can see, uh, the one neurovirus, uh, case and one cryptosporidiosis case. So the crypto is a parasitic disease of the bowel. And that was related to, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh with another suspected norovirus cluster.
And so just a couple updates on influenza included a couple of the diagrams that you have seen from week to week as we've moved through the season. You can just see things slowing down with this recent peak. The totals for deaths this season in Massachusetts, I think, are always important. To point out, and I was looking at the comparison of previous seasons earlier today, and it was in the 400s last season. But of course, we still are moving through flu season here. So the Opioid Settlement Working Group is working on a sober curious event for Thursday, April 30th in the evening, an opportunity for folks to get together with non-alcoholic beverages and an opportunity for community gathering and a social event. So look out for a flyer and advertisement for that. The Metro West Medical Reserve Corps, or MRC, is looking to pick up momentum on volunteer recruitment and training. So we'll look to put some more information out about that. Some community vaccine messaging. So separately, I do have a document that you have available to you as well, with a draft for the Wayland Public Schools and a draft for the larger community. So I've put that draft to the superintendent and assistant superintendent to see if we may be able to move forward with that through the schools. And then there is that second message to the community. So if any of you have feedback on those messages, I am happy to hear those. Some continuing education and trainings that I attended or completed this month. And then lastly, for school health services, the Wayland Public Schools continue to partner with the Massachusetts Menstrual Equity Coalition, providing Wayland schools with menstrual products and educational resources, making sure that students have reliable stigma-free access that does then support better attendance at school, engagement, as well as health education, empowering students and advancing menstrual equity. We have also secured NEPHE, which is the nasal epinephrine for all of the Wayland Public Schools. So this will be stocked and the nurses, the school nurses are able to administer stock epinephrine if a previously undiagnosed student or staff were to have an allergy at school, allergic reaction at school. And then finally, we've been working with Wayland Public Schools tech director on next year's enrollment process to make sure that all of the proper information is collected from families in a way that also creates better access to resources as well. So working on that too. Any questions that I can help to answer?
Well, this is, the notification is great. Thank you. For school and community regarding the vaccinations. Great. Thank you.
Good questions. Good.
We're good, Marv. Very good. Take care. Thanks, Marv. Thanks. Sorry for the delay. No worries. No worries.
Thank you. All right. Going to 17th. 11th Way. Yep. 17th. 11th Way. Okay. Please stop.
Actually, thank you. I have some handouts, just in case folks need a refresher on some of the background of this property.
A lot of paper. I'm so sorry about that. That's why I'm waiting. And, you know, I don't want you to get buried in people. Thank you.
So the Shaw's are looking to install an upgraded septic system. And there, you know, it came up that there was a question regarding the number of bedrooms. And so they've done some homework and they've provided some background information regarding history of the property and the number of bedrooms, three versus four. Darren, I know, has been working with the owners and, you know, going through what would need to be done to move forward with a four-bedroom design that isn't necessarily looked at as new construction. It's a repair. You know, that's where the difference is. And if you folks want to chime in. So good evening. Yes. So we're here today because, right, we made a question, Brian, but we're here today personally to ask that the Hongby grandfather. And really, the reason for that is we can't look forward to cornerstone engineering unless we are grandfathered for a four-bedroom septic system in the front yard to replace the three-bedroom septic system in the backyard, which happens to be located in the wetland. Well, not the wetlands, but the buffer zone of the wetlands. So we're kind of steering away from that and trying to make as much as possible headway in doing it in the front yard. And that's been much of the practice in our neighborhood. In fact, the neighbors on each side of us have run into the same problem. And they have both moved their septic systems to the front yard, and it seems to have worked for them. So we thought, well, yeah, that's probably the way to go. So I know other neighbors have worked in the backyard, but it just doesn't have any appeal for making it. Yeah. I'm sure the conservation ones, it is far away from any of those areas. It's really too close. There's a brook running back there. And the soils are probably more poor. And the water table is a little higher. The water table is higher, quite higher. Is the water table high in the front yard as well? Well, I don't think so. No. Is the front yard higher? Oh, yeah, much higher. It's on a little hill. Okay. It's on a hill. And, yeah, we had, I didn't really know what was down there until they dug out like a 15-foot pit hole for the coat test. And I got a good look at it. But it's not, I don't, you know, it's not a fantastic draining area, I mean, quite honestly. And so the problem is, in moving to the front yard, we've still got to have a really good, innovative system that's going to counter the slow percolation test that we got. And we're perfectly, you know, amenable to that. That's going to have to happen.
But as I say, we're kind of held a little bit, held up right now until we get grandfathered. And that supposedly takes out some of the restrictions on variances or set-offs, so on. So we're going to need that because it's not a big area. But it's equivalent to what the houses on either side of us have. And they made it work, so I'd like to make it work, too. No, we would. And why do you think putting it in the backyard would be bad aesthetically? Well, it's, it's a very, it's the nicest part of the property, actually, because there's a deck there that overlooks it. And then there's the wetlands and the woods before you get over the white road. It's really, it's really a nice piece of property. And it seemed like a shame to have to mound that. I've seen some of the mounding that's been done in the neighborhood. It's pretty significant. Well, if they mound your front yard, it's not going to be so good either. No, it's... Well, actually, the front yard, because it's such a slope, they can mound it, and then we'd have a stone wall at the road. Okay. So there's a lot of space in the front that we don't have in the back, as far as... And will you have to move your water line? Yes. And our driveway. That's quite extensive. Yeah. It's really a costly process. Yes, it is. That's the way it goes. The state, you know, the states give quite a bit of money for that. Well, I think we could do it, but it's just... No, I'm just saying, Julia... Yes, there is a tax credit for a failed system. So once you get, you know, through that process, it will be... Okay, and so it would be great to have the option to maintain the historic pattern of a four-bedroom that's been there for over 50 years. 30, 48, and for us, 50, we've been around a while. Oh, that's a while, half a century. Kids through the round school system. So we've been happy to... Very happy there, and we've used it as a four-bedroom, so we've got no complaints, just trying to address the problem. Based on Darren's review of everything, he is recommending that the house be grandfathered as a four-bedroom, so they can do the four-bedroom septicless care. All right, so everybody doesn't have any questions. John, do you have any questions? If somebody wants to make a motion? I make a motion to grandfather the property at 17 Sylvan Way as a four-bedroom. I second. Roll call. Dr. Brent Poiris? Yes. Catherine Stiff? Yes. Dr. Genevieve Annar? Yes. John Scarlett? Yes. Dr. Brent Poiris, that's approved. All right, thank you. Thank you. Sorry for the delay. I'm going to throw it. It's cracking on us. We just slipped there a little bit. We'll catch up. Well, you were supposed to be on our last agenda. Right. I think it was something. He went for a night. It was a blender. Is one of your children Sam Shaw? Sam, no. Oh, okay. No. Never mind. That was somebody I went to school with.
We have Sam Shaw, but we don't have a Sam Shaw. We have a John Shaw. Thanks for coming in. Thank you, too. Sam Shaw. That guy's just nuts. All right. Let's move on to... Sam Bucco? Is he on there? He is. Okay. Yes. Hi, Julia. Hi. Sorry for the delay. No problem. I appreciate the time.
So, this is similar to... We're at 106 Concord now, agenda item. This is similar to another property we had recently on the agenda where, you know, they're working on a septic design and a project on their home, and they would like to move forward with the building project before the septic system gets installed, with the understanding that the new replacement system would be required to be installed within a maximum of three years, as allowed by the permit. And, Nick, if you'd like to say a few things. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Thank you, everyone, for your time. So, I'll be quick. I know we're bumping up against the time here. My wife and I are looking to put a couple of bedrooms over our garage. It isn't a new ad by any means. We just want to make our kids' bedrooms a little bit larger. We're not changing the footprint of the house. As a result, what we need to do is we need to upgrade our septic. So, we've gone down that path in terms of getting a septic plant in place. We've had a number of percolation tests done for, in total, different areas of the yard. All of them were not great spots for the septic. I guess there's a lot of play and a lot of fill that isn't particularly conducive. On top of that, we actually also bumped into, in the back, a conservation in wetland. So, we need a variance, and I believe we received permission to put the septic in the northwest part of our yard. My ask of the board today is for the, I believe, three years allowance so that we can save up the necessary funds to have the septic put in. Our current septic, to give you an idea of the scope of the issue, our current septic is under our gazebo and our deck. So, the old, the prior homeowner, they built a deck and a gazebo right on top of it. As a result, that needs to be torn up, and we need to have that, the septic underneath it taken care of at the same time before the new septic is put in. On top of that, the septic is where we put in the back. My wife has a large garden, which we would need to pay to have taken out and removed. And then, lastly, we had two sets of PERC tests. So, four 16-foot holes dug up in our yard, and as a result, we need to have it re-graded. To be honest, at this point, the costs are quite high. I fully subscribe to having the septic upgraded, and I'm happy for the allowance to be able to do that. My concern is we haven't even begun the project yet, and at least by way of my engineer's estimates, this is going to be quite costly. So, I'm asking the board for a couple of years to be able to save up the funds, once the renovation is completed, be able to save up the funds, and be able to afford the upgrade to my septic. I'm happy to answer any questions. Is the current septic system working? Or, I don't remember. If I heard correctly, I believe you're asking if my current septic is working. Is that correct? Yeah. Did it pass? No issues. No, it passed. I even did a, keep me honest, really, a Title V, Title something to instruct the septic. Yeah, probably a Title V report, yeah. Yes, yes, thank you. So, I did that as proof. Same number of people in the house as there was before going forward? Same number of bedrooms. So, essentially, my, I have three kids, it's a four-bedroom house, two of the bedrooms, one is 89 square feet, the other, I think, is 96, both under 100 square feet. Essentially, again, not changing the footprint, just want to build out over the garage and make the bedrooms a little bit larger for the kids. What were they?
I understand it's because of the construction of the addition on your house, and that's what's triggering the. Yes. Yes, if I don't misspeak, it's over the percentage rule of the original footprint. I believe I'm just over that, so that's why I'm here in front of you today. Square footage, yeah. It'll be slightly bigger. Bigger bedrooms. Right. Yes, yes.
You're aware that there's a pretty good tax credit for replacing septic systems that may or may not be available to you in three years? I don't know. I think it's for failed systems. Right. Is it? Yeah, I can get a set of funds. Okay. There's, and I may be speaking out of turn, but there's some sort of financial assistance. My concern is that this is already meaningfully, I already spent over $9,000 just to get septic plants in place now. My understanding is there may be soil that needs to be removed and soil that is brought in, and that is, if I'm going based off of my engineer, that could be five to ten grand a load just to move dirt. So I'm not 100% clear on the extent of the expenses, but I know they are atypical. I'm not 100% clear on the motion. I'm not 100% clear on the motion. Julie, do we have any way of, I mean, you can't, is there any way to prevent property transfer? Is there any reason that, that there wouldn't, that we wouldn't want to do this? Um, if there was a property transfer, they would need to have a title five done, and that would, you know, trigger, you know, we would be following the project to make sure that the septic is installed as well. And so there are some safety measures, um, in place, you know, for projects like this, where, you know, they'll be reoccupying their home, and then, you know, there's a process for making sure that septic design, especially if the board votes, you know, make sure those minutes are in the file and things like that attract the purposes. So it would be a motion to extend the, or allow for three years, maximum. So it would be, um, just to make sure I got the correct, just to, yeah, it's right on the, um, on this form at the bottom there, basically, the, um. So I make a motion for 106 Concord Road, that, uh, the proposed building project, project before replacement of the septic system has been installed, uh, qualifying for the exemption allowed in the regulations, with the understanding the new replacement septic system would be required to be installed and certified within a maximum of three years, as allowed by the septic firm. We have a second? Second. Second. Second. Second. Right. Second. To roll call. John Stark. Yes. Dr. Javenna. Yes. Kathleen Stim. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Dr. Bob Deez and the chesco. It's approved.
That's great, guys. Thank you so much for your, your help. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for waiting. Thank you. Yep. Thanks, Julia.
So we've got. Sure. Yep. So, uh, 37 to 45 Wellham Street. The, the, the, the school. expansion project. And, you know, tonight we're here to basically to touch base on the mounding analysis that was done by Sean Malone from Oak Consulting Group and also with our peer reviewer Jason Friel from ECT Incorporated. So we can hear from probably Sean first. Thank you, Sean. Sorry for the delay. We have little overage on our agenda items tonight. It happens all the time, I'm sure. Just for the record, Sean Malone Consulting Group, I'm the civil engineer for the Carroll School Project. So I don't really have any presentation, I guess. So my understanding is that the board wanted to discuss the mounding analysis. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. So as the board may or may not know, so our design flow under the Title V is about 3,300 gallons per day under the Whalen bylaw. It's about 49.50. Anything over 2,000 gallons per day per Title V has to then be subject to a mounding analysis. So we have gone ahead and done that. We dug, I think, a total of 14 test pits out on the site while we're looking at different areas. So we're able to determine and we found that the soils there are all very coarse sands, very well draining. So going into this, we knew that the mound wasn't going to be much of anything. So what we did is we utilized the hand-touche method, which is a standard method for determining a mound in a case like this. Um, we used the, uh, in determining the recharge rate, we used our Title V flow. Um, we used, uh, for the specific yield of the soils, um, the coarse sands. We went through published data and, um, went on the low, low end of, um, that data for input into the, into the, the, the model. Same for the hydraulic conductivity, um, the size of the field, x and y, that's determined that, you know, size of the field, pretty self-explanatory. Um, so basically, uh, the result is that, um, with the maximum flow, the design flow to this field, uh, we may see a mound of up to 0.128 feet, uh, above the groundwater level. We then added that number to the estimated seasonal high groundwater, which was really, we know, we didn't find any groundwater except for one hole, but where the, um, where the, the, the field's going, we didn't find any groundwater. So the estimated seasonal high groundwater is, um, the bottom of the hole. Um, so we added that one 0.128 to that estimated seasonal high groundwater table and then made sure we had five feet of separation to the bottom of the field to that elevation, five feet, because we are in a, uh, a rapid per, less than two minutes per inch. Um, so we've submitted all this, uh, we submitted the final plans for Darren. Darren seems satisfied. He actually emailed me, uh, um, this afternoon, there was two typos that I need to correct on, uh, one of the sheets, but, um, other than that, we have, uh, uh, fully title five compliant, uh, design.
Thank you, uh, Sean. Um, we had, so we had through the planning board, um, process, um, he seats Jason, who's involved with peer reviews for this project and did the peer review for the title five, um, mound for the septic system. And Jason, thank you for waiting tonight. We're sorry about the delay. Um, you could just chime in on, um, the work that's been done to get to where we're at with the design. Yeah, I think Sean generally covered it. It was, um, I think the only thing, Sean, I don't know if you mentioned was it's a Presby system, uh, for the soil absorption system. It's a dosed field. Um, there was, uh, uh, uh, relative redesign, um, from the initial review that we did back in the fall to, to effectively what has been, uh, presented now. Um, I won't speak for, for Darren, but I, I basically told me the same thing, which is, uh, all the components of the septic are generally compliant. We would agree. Any comments that we had had previously have been addressed. Um, and with regard to the mounding analysis, we did review, uh, what Sean just described to you. Um, we looked at all the published values. We looked at the site conditions. Uh, we concur that the, uh, you threw me Sean, because I, I was, I remember it in inches that it's, uh, I think about 0.15 inches, um, to which the, the septic field, uh, our final comments was to, were to adjust the septic field elevations to account for that very small amount of mounding at the center of the field. Um, that has been done. That is in the final set of plans that I believe you have in front of you. Um, real quick, that was really the only, the, the mounding was consistent and acceptable and meets the requirements. I'm trying to think real quick. I'm just looking at my notes. Um, there was a condition, I believe it's on there for, um, and Sean, I believe you agreed to do two additional test pits, uh, based on the flow rate being above 2000 gallons per day. Uh, a third test pit was required in both the reserve and the primary field. And, uh, I believe Sean, you put it, you've added a note to, I believe, 601, C601 for that. That's correct. Yeah. Uh, one other note was there is a question about some potential for dry wells and main maintaining setbacks to those dry wells. Um, Sean, in, in coordinating with Darren and, and providing us that information, uh, there have been, there is a buffer, uh, shown a 25 foot buffer shown on the drawings with a note that clearly states that that area will be investigated, uh, downspouts and dry wells will be investigated. And if there are any located within that area, they would be moved. Um, ECT is, finds that acceptable, uh, if the board does. I think Julia, that's pretty much what I had on, on that. If there's any other questions. If the board has any questions, I don't have any questions. Um, John, no, we wanted to just, you know, have a formal conversation. I know the planning board is, uh, looking to make a decision on this project and I believe this week. And so it was timely that we had the opportunity to meet tonight and, um, the board could take a vote to support the work that's been done on the mounding analysis that, um, that, um, we have done, you know, our diligence on and Darren will, um, finish up the, you know, few typos that need to be modified on the design and then he'll be able to sign up on the plans. Do that. So we just need a motion. The motion to, um, accept the mounting analysis. Is that all we need? I make motion to accept the mounting analysis for, um, the Carroll School acceptance plan. Do you have a second? Second.
Dr. Genevieve Annem? Yes. Dr. Brett Mordas? Yes. Yes. Katie Sip? Yes. John Stoyer? Yes. And Dr. Botti-Franchesco. That's approved. Thank you very much. All right. Thank you so much, y'all. Have a good night.
So it's interesting. This is, um, it's Lincoln Water here. It's not Wayland Water. I think I remember that too, the original plans at school. Yeah. I tore down the house that was there. Oh, you did? Oh, wow. Do you know where the garage is? The mechanics garage? I mean, I, I did do a site visit when they originally were planning on taking that property, but... The next door property? Oh, oh, yeah. So they bought this and then they bought, they bought a next door property and I tore that house down. Oh. But I was surprised that that was the Lincoln Water. Yeah. Yeah. There's a couple of those in town. Um, so health director updates. Um, we did receive the Eversource, uh, vegetative management plan and I haven't fully looked at it, but it does show where there are some, um, private wells in town. I'm going to double check them. That's usually what the exercise we go through and just double check and it seems like they have a lot of wells shown on here. So maybe they upgraded their ability to, you know, show them on here. But the, um, right of way that they're looking at is the one that goes through, um, Stonebridge Road area where Oak Hill neighborhood is. Um, so it's sort of on the cusp of the Wayland Sudbury border. And, um, um, really it's just that neighborhood where the, um, right of way is. And, you know, this is part of their notification process for, um, their plans to do foliage treatments between June 1st and October 18th, along with cut surface treatments, um, fall cut surface treatments, basal treatments, or sensitive foliar treatments may be necessary and are scheduled between October and 1st and December 31st in areas along the right of way that may not have received a foliar treatment for two trees over 12 feet tall. So that could be something, you know, the folks in that neighborhood may not necessarily like. Um, I don't know how recently tree trimming has been done in that area, but there are tree, you know, there were trees there at one point and if they don't, you know, I don't know how often they trim them. So it could be something people notice, but they are notified as part of the process from Eversource. So as well as the municipality. And then obviously the, uh, exact time and weather conditions will determine the, you know, when things actually take place. So they give us 45 days to, um, comment if there are any comments and, you know, I'll just go through and double check the wells that they've shown. Um, talking about housing complaints. Um, we do have a few other ones that we're working on for whatever reason, a lot of housing things going on right now. So we've got a situation at 10 Hazen Lane. We've got something at 73 OXBO and then we've got something else that under the housing authority properties. Um, so, you know, we're actively starting to work on all three of those, including the housing situation we talked about tonight. So that does put a drain on our resources available to do other work because, um, you know, we don't have like a housing inspector. That would be me or Darren or Ann Marie, but Ann is, um, not here every day. So, um, when she's in, you know, she's able to help us. But, um, food inspection updates. Oh my gosh.
Here are, so we haven't met in person in a while. And that's why there's so much stuff here. And I apologize. I should start earlier. Um, it was a little stressful earlier. Um, so Beth has been doing her, you know, rounds of food inspection this time of year. We do see, um, some, you know, restaurants that have pest problems. Um, sorry, is China Rose doing okay? Uh, China Rose, uh, I don't think they've had any necessary inspections recently. Um, so basically operate, you know, standard operating process. Um, we did have, um, a problem with some pests at Jindu that is being addressed with task management plan. Um, those are the, that's the one that I didn't know about. Um, and so best working with them on that. We have an update on a legal order for six and eight Damon road and 76 main street. Although, um, as a reminder, we had given them a formal board extension to January 14th of 26, which has now expired. I know that they've been working on a design.
Sure. Oh, that's okay. Sorry. Do you need assistance? I'm sorry. Do you need to sign? Um, I don't think you need to sign every page. I mean, that's a little too much, but I know that the board wanted to see some of the bills. Um, and if you want, I can pause so that you can actually look at them without distraction to me or whatever you'd like to do. Okay. So, um, I know they're actively working on a septic design, but it hasn't been finished or installed yet. And we're already in March. So, um, they formally requested to stop, um, you know, I think ease up on their pumping a little bit, which I'm a little leery of. Although David Schofield, their engine, their, um, sanitarian has ensured me that, um, he is going to observe the conditions and the premises to make sure that if there's pumping needed, that it will, that will happen as soon as possible to prevent any breakout. And, uh, Dan Regan from Regan septic pumpings would be their pumper and tingling. And so, um, that was this letter that we received from, David Schofield. So I wanted to make sure the board knew about that. And, um, I think one of the cesspools is a little bit worse than the other. So, you know, the way the order was written, it was as needed. So if weekly is needed, then it's weekly. If daily is needed, then it's daily. You know, I mean, whatever it takes, because we can't have occupied buildings with tenants and cesspools breaking out and stuff to set the ground. So this is basically saying like, I have a back here. Well, right now it's being monitored by David Schofield. And so he was hired by the owners, the owner of the properties and he's going to be monitoring it. And hopefully that will help move things along more quickly because I think they're seeing a high cost for all the pumping that's needed. And the longer they wait, the more pumping needs to be done. So, um,
you know, these mental health services, are these for, are just people that need, which one is that? That's HRFs. Yeah. They are contracted by the town. Okay. On to, if the board's ready for the next update, um, green burial.
And the select boards are, uh, annual town meeting item. So I think I shared it with you all, but I hope it would be probably a part of that just in case you wanted a lot of pressure.
Basically this article is to, um, avoid anyone who is interested in a green burial, um,
town meeting would be avoided. It wouldn't need to go to town meeting. Um, so let me see. Uh, it goes to the select and the board of health. And so this board would be involved as well as the select board. I just wanted to make sure the board was aware. Um, um, we would likely go through a similar process that we did last time. Um, so we might want to think through any, um, guidelines we might want. Um, if this becomes something that's a popular topic in town. Although since I've worked here, we've seen one of these, so I don't know if it would be, but I'm just bringing it to your attention that the select board would be the proven authority and the board of health would be involved as well through a public hearing process. Okay. 289 Boston post road. And that is where the new building donuts will be and the sub shop. And so, um, this is goes back to the contamination that was over at 298 Boston post road where there's dry cleaners. And as I started to dig through, you know, we saw a terrain where they had to do some work and now we're seeing it at this property where this flume of contamination is coming across the street from the dry cleaners. I started looking through the file because there is, um, some correspondence in here from DEP where we were notified that they were asking for an extension on, uh, compliance and work that needed to be done over there. This was in 2022. And when I looked it up on the tracking site, the, um, state's site where you can look up a tracking number to, you know, find out about any hazardous waste bills. There's really nothing in there since that date, which is very concerning to me. So I don't know what's happened, but, um, starting to look into it to find out what's going on at the dry cleaners and why nothing has happened since 2022. Did you say there's a new Dunkin Donuts? Yes. Where? It's where the, um, Bank of America used to be, um, right in front of where terrain will be. Yeah. So undercut over 20. July or August. Are you turning? Uh, I don't know when they're starting gangbusters over there. What? Yeah. When is the new inflation? July or August. Okay. Well, that's why, uh, that's interesting. I know, right? How do you know that? Uh, back in. Are you invited? I'm just kidding. I have somebody that I know has worked on the project. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, it's, um, looks like a very, uh, high end, beautiful, um, addition to driving through town. So if you look on Instagram, you see the pictures. They're incredible. Yeah. It'll be, um, well, it's, it's, it's a waterway over there. So if you're driving down Pelham Island, and you look to the right where the back of the old, old foods was, that's all going to be updated with trains, um, plants. They'll probably have some, you know, like outdoor views. They might look on that bridge and they would have been. I don't know. So, um, so there's that. And, um, once I have more information, I'll update the board further about the dry cleaners, um, situation. But we did receive reports from the, um, 289 Boston Post Road on work that they're, you know, being required to do investigating and there is, you know, still there's contamination there. And so, you know, I'm following what will be required for them to do over there. Um, or, you know, whether it's more testing or other, um, investigation, they have hired an LSP and, um, Sage Environmental is involved. And so, um, they will be acting as their agents for, um, the work that needs to be done or any testing.
And if anyone was interested in seeing, you know, some of the documentation related to that, I have, you know, quite a bit of it with maps that show where, you know, some of the monitoring wells are and where the plume is. And so, um, that's my update on that. Um, the EP letter to water superintendents.
This was a letter we received on February 20th, um, where they're doing some, um, updating to the happy hollow pilot stainless steel piping upgrades. Um, and they needed a, um, emergency declaration to utilize the, um, MWRA water in the interim where this work is being done. So it's, I would think coming up soon where they were working on that. I haven't heard an update of when exactly the piping would be, um, completed, but it looks like the extension is granted until April 26th. So
there was that. And then this was just a copy of the mass DEP letter, um, approving the low variance for the high school, which, um, I wasn't sure if the board had ever received a copy of this, but I wanted to make sure you saw it. This was from November 25th. It just memorializes the flows that we talked about in our board meeting when Abby Charest, the town engineer, came for us. And, um, she went to the select board a couple of weeks ago. They were going to, I think, um,
present to the select board their plans to, uh, update the septic system there. And it's a significant project. They will be coming to the board of health for an approval because we would, you'll need to sign the permit and we'll share that information with the board. Once we have a plan, we haven't received any plans yet, but, um, I think they were looking to use a debt exclusion and, um, to pay for it, which I don't think the select select board approved that. And so it would be part of the levy. Or I could have it the other way around. Um, let me see if I just verify what my student thing was. Make sure you know what's going on with that. The, the select board is supporting the project. They just aren't paying for it with excluded debt. So it doesn't have to be on the town meeting articles. It will be paid for with levy debt. Okay. So that's what's happening. I just, um, know that people are talking about money. So I guess just being aware of what's going on with a big project like that is helpful. Um, and then, um, we've got all the bills and then sets of minutes. Well, I guess we can approve the minutes. Yeah. As long as everyone, I don't know if there was a chance. Did everybody read the, uh, minutes? Yeah. Okay. Okay. So for August 11th, 2025, give a motion to approve.
Make a motion to approve, uh, four to four minutes from August 11th. Do we have a second? Second. Okay. Okay. John Stoyer. Yes. Dr. Genevieve Annette. Yes. Kevin Stitt. Yes. Dr. Brett Fortis. Yes. Dr. Bob DeFontesco is for August 11th, 2025 approved.
September 15th, 2025. Make a motion to approve the minutes. I make a motion to approve the September 15th, 2025 minutes. Do we have a second? Second. Dr. John Stoyer. Yes. Dr. Genevieve Annette. Yes. Catherine Stitt. Yes. Dr. Brett Fortis. Yes. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. That's approved September 15th, 2025 minutes.
Great. I think that's it. Yep. Unless there's any other questions or? Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Is it your car moving? They are actually guests. I don't know. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Yeah. They're around moving over to where the bagel table gets to be. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Yeah. Dr. So that's great. I mean, I think that'll be a nice change in there. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Yeah. It'll be pretty far too. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Oh wow. Then hopefully they're, you know, I think the new town center owners are hoping to, you know, probably at a different restaurant to where they're old ones to speak. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Yeah. That's correct. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Yeah. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Yeah. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. They're great. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Do you need all the stuff yet? Dr. Bob DeFontesco. I don't know if you've heard about that? Dr. Bob DeFontesco. So far you've seen it. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Child. You've got attention. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. You know the candle for them, do you? Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Probably. Dr. Bob DeFontesco. Oh yeah. I do. Yeah. Their son is a sophomore at Purdue University. Oh, yeah. He was at a frat party last two weeks ago. He jumped in like a makeshift pool. Oh, no. That was paralyzed. He's 19, 19 years old. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, that's terrible. So we're doing a thing at St. Catharines Church, like a pasta dinner. Oh, okay. For the town. There's a foundation out there. Already we did it. But do we need a permit? They have the little pantry now. Where is St. Catharines Church? Not St. John, St. Anne's. Oh, oh. Right near the city berth. I mean, is it a public event? Probably. Yeah. That's good. Just the hotel. So who's to facilitate? South Dakota. Oh, okay. So probably just Jenna's the one that does all the coordinating for events. Do you know what's happening? Yeah. Yeah. April. That's what's going on. Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah. April 11th. Saturday after the mess. Okay. So they get a spotlight. Okay. That's really. That's true. He's not going to. Yeah. Yeah. Do you even know it? Well, he said they flew a bit from Indiana, U, 7-2, Smallwood now. Wow. You see this stuff on shows, but you know, you know. Like a local friend of mine is at Purdue University. It's a charity party, generally pooled that big, a little pool. Stamps, LLV. Four, six, it's paralyzed now. Headcount. Yeah. It's a shadow. Sure. So. Like in the hall, the one. Well, definitely lower. It's got a little bit of a little pain load on the upper cut. It's just tragic. Unless you build that burst or something. Maybe you don't think so. And it's just, you know, one of those pools that can blow out through that full of water or a party and a piece of rain. Great. It's probably one adverse. No. I'm scared. I knew somebody that stood on the cab of a pickup truck and dove into the bed. It was full of water. Was that you? No. You're looking at me like, I don't want to admit it. There's images. Okay. Well, we're still looking at this. So once we've finished that, then someone can make a motion. Motion to Jordan. Tell me twice. Is that a motion? Oh, a second motion. I make a motion to close the meeting for tonight. Second. Yes. I second. Dr. Genevina. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Happy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.