June 15, 2026 – Board of Health – Video & Transcript
June 15, 2026 - Board of Health
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Bonnie? Yes. Hello, everyone. Are you able to hear me? Yes, we do. You have two minutes, please. Great. Um, my name is Bonnie Marion. Um, I live at 25 Hazelbrook Lane here in Wayland and, um, was just making a public comment to follow up on our letter and discussion from the last meeting, um, regarding the dust concerns and mitigation measures on, uh, Hazelbrook Lane and Lincoln Road. Um, so was interested in being a part of this agenda, but I understand it's full today. So just wanted to make, uh, request to be on the next month's agenda just to keep up to date on, um, progress that's being made on kind of long-term mitigation measures. I will say that there was some calcium chloride, um, application in the last two weeks or so, and that's been very effective. So, uh, we're grateful for that. Um, but interested to know, um, if you've had discussions with the Board of Public Works and, um, have any update on kind of what's been used historically, what the plan is for, for future. Um, and we are on the agenda for their meeting tomorrow night, so maybe things will be covered there, but, um, just wanted to, bring that up here in today's meeting as well. All right. I think everything about the actual concerns was already discussed at the last meeting, so don't have anything further to add to that. All right. Thank you very much. Thanks. Yep. Let's move on to Maura. Hi, I'm Maura Carter, public health nurse for the town of Wayland. So in front of you, you have, uh, the communicable disease report for May, uh, no surprises here really. One case of neurovirus, one of campylobacteriosis, three of enterovirus, one of homophilus influenzae, one of hepatitis B, three of human granulocytic anaplasmosis, and four of Lyme disease, with finally one of COVID-19. Um, so nothing of, uh, particular, uh, concern on this list. Any questions about the communicable disease? So community outreach highlights, uh, in our June town of Wayland newsletter, we released some summer safety tips, uh, uh, information about, uh, tick-borne illness prevention, uh, mosquito-borne illness prevention, uh, safety for extreme heat, uh, and sun protection, along with links to, uh, more safety information on helmets, windows, uh, car safety, water safety, pool safety, and rabies prevention. So the same information was also disseminated, uh, in the all-school newsletter for release in early, uh, to mid June. Um, you'll see a newsletter from the Children's Wild Preschool. This was, um, part of their newsletter released, you know, June 5th. And so there are two, um, pictures here of information that went out in that newsletter, including a letter, um, to the community from me and the, um, community health nurse, Kristen Cassata that works for the preschool, uh, all about, um, tick awareness and prevention of tick-borne illness in the, um, student staff and family caregivers of, uh, the students in the TCW program, as well as an immunization, uh, update. That same one that went out in some of the other school newsletters a little earlier in the year did come out, um, in this newsletter too. So that is included. We are in full swing with, uh, camp inspections. So I've been assisting with the medical portion, um, of those along with some of our regional, uh, partners. And our last update here is on school health services. So we have, um, the school nurse leader transition coming up very soon. So Heather Yates who served for the last several years, uh, will still remain as a community health nurse. Um, but, um, she is stepping down from her community, um, health nurse, nurse leader role and, uh, will, um, we will move into that role. Betsy Green, who is one of our community health nurses currently. So the two of them will be working together this summer to, um, help with that transition. And we are looking forward to supporting Betsy and, uh, and retaining Heather, um, in the program. She has served, uh, the program really, uh, well over the past several years and has made some, um, significant, uh, improvements to the program, um, and has brought the program far in terms of, uh, compliance with DPH and school health. So we thank her immensely for her years of service to the program. Now, um, the last day of school is scheduled for next week. Uh, 623 is the last day of school with 624 being the last day of school for school staff. Um, and so all of the community health nurses are busy completing any final reporting, end of year activities, but also, um, the preparation that starts at this time of year for next year. And then finally, I just wanted to report on, uh, the grants that serve the nursing program and the Wayland Public Schools, um, through, um, what is the Comprehensive School Health Services Grant and the Behavioral Health Expansion Award Grant, um, with highlights of spending, um, of that grant for this year, uh, being behavioral health supports for DM nursing support, um, support with SBIRT, which we've previously reported on, but it's a screening brief intervention and referral to treatment, um, for substance use screening in the schools, uh, healthy relationships programming, professional development for nurses, uh, and also, uh, behavioral health supplies to be used in, um, several sensory, cool down, um, type of spaces across the elementary schools in the district. And that is all I have for you. Any questions? Questions? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Mark. Thank you. Okay. Let's move on to, uh, 17th Sylvan Way owner, Vincent Shaw, Vito. Hold on up. Vito, can you hear us? Yeah, I'm here. All right. Uh, do you want us to start, uh, opening up or? Sure. Sure. Okay. Uh, so 17th Sylvan Way, um, this existing, uh, four bedroom house, uh, on the lot. Um, they had a failure. They had a old system in the backyard, old septic system. Uh, it's pretty close to a wetland. They have a wetland right in the backyard. Um, so the only spot we could locate that would be to the front of the house, uh, to keep that 75 foot separation, um, that the department requires. Um, it was very slow, uh, soils out there. So the sizing did get rather large. Uh, we had to design on a 60 minute, an inch rate, uh, which is essentially the slowest, um, that you can design on. So we did have limited space. Um, I don't know if you've seen the plans where we did have to kind of contain the whole system with a retaining wall, uh, to keep that within the front yard. Uh, we had to relocate the driveway to the side. Uh, and we had to ask for some relief to setbacks. Um, and the one that the key one, why we're here tonight is the setback to the neighboring property. Uh, typically want to be 10 feet from the sideline setback and 10 feet from the right of way line. We're seven and a half feet from each of those. Uh, and we do need that because if we do shift that over any more into the yard, um, we would be blocking the access to the garage. Uh, so you wouldn't really be able to pull, uh, conveniently into the garage, the retaining wall would stick out in front of it. Um, so we do need those just couple feet, uh, of relief to fit that system in. And we did make it as small as we could. We have a treatment system on a fast system, uh, which treats the effluent prior to discharge, uh, to a pretty high level. And we get a 50% sizing reduction with that. And even with that reduction, we still need, um, these couple of relief, uh, to the setback. Uh, to the setback to get this thing to fit in there. Um, I think that's really the only kind of issue, uh, they were working through. Um, I think that's all I have. I don't know if Darren, do you have any extra? Nope. Tough sight. They notify the butters via certified mail as required. They provided the slips to us. So that was not probably. Mm-hmm. No problems with any comments on that? I received my comments. Darren, do you have any questions? Wow. Um, first time I've seen it, I'm powered this way. Um, is there going to be stairs somehow to get to the front door? Cause there's retaining walls two and a half feet tall. Yup. Um, let me just pull my own plan up so I can take a look at it. Um, so we're still going to be able to get around that kind of side up near the garage. Um, we should be basically at grade when we get up to there. Um, so you'll be able to kind of walk to the side of the wall. If need be, we'll put a couple steps, but, um, you should be able to get around the wall, uh, to the front and with a rebuild the front walkway. Yeah. Um, there isn't really a lot else you can do there, is there? No, it's, it's a pretty tough one. Uh, we're kind of limited. Limited. I make a motion to approve the, uh, variance for the setback to property lines. We have a second. Second. Okay. Let's do roll call on that. Catherine Steph? Tate? Yes. Okay. Dr. Genevina? Yes. John Stewart? Yes. Francesco. That's approved. Thank you. Great. Thank you. Great. Thank you. All right. Yeah. It's gonna be weird. All right. Olivia. Oh, thank you. Bye. Hi. Have a good night. Thank you. Thank you. It's a crazy stuff. Let me check the elevator. A lot better than what they have. You know, they're upgraded quite a bit. Thanks for coming in. Yeah. It's, yeah. It's a beautiful yard in the back. So. Good evening, everyone. How are you? I'm doing well. How are we doing? Good. Thanks. Good. Awesome. I am super happy to be here. I'll be sharing my presentation. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'll be sharing my presentation over on the screen. If you want to take a look as I kind of talk us through the slides. But just as a reminder, my name is Olivia Dufour. I am the regional substance use prevention coordinator for the Great Meadows Public Health Collaborative. Many words. Serving the towns of Bedford, Carlisle, Concord, Lincoln, Sudbury, Wayland, and Weston. And my role primarily is to assist in the kind of coordination and spending of opioid abatement funds and also doing substance use prevention work within the towns, building programming that supports treatment and recovery. So kind of spreads the whole gamut. And so I've been working closely with the Wayland Opioid Task Force and also with the Wayland Board of Health and the Health Department to just kind of see what, you know, what needs there are and what kind of interesting data we can find. So again, as a refresher, we completed an assessment across all seven towns in the region to help determine some of our spending priorities for opioid settlement spending, particularly in regards to like individual priorities. These towns are going to get their own data, but also for us to really think about creative ways that we can work together to kind of maximize the funds across our region of seven towns, which generally tend to have similar resources as well as similar needs. This included town surveys that went out into each individual town. We also did regional focus groups and we did some key informant interviews. And so I am going to be presenting today on all of that good data. So we received 1,012 survey responses across the region, which I was very, very pleased about. We got a lot of really great data out of this survey, including Wayland had 133 responses with our goal was about 1% of the population. So we did a pretty good job capturing that across all of our towns. We asked folks what their connection to the community in Wayland was because we wanted to have kind of an expansive idea of what makes a community member who is in town, who's around people who live here. They volunteer here. They might be a faith member, a town employee, but really trying to get feedback from folks who are spending time in Wayland, regardless of what that specific connection to the community is. We also asked questions about folks connection to the opioid epidemic. So we only had about 44% of folks who said that they had absolutely no connection that they were willing to disclose to the opioid epidemic. About 15.8% of our respondents have lost a loved one to overdose and 17.3% are close to someone who is in active use treatment or recovery for opioid use disorder. So I think what we were trying to gather with this question was we're able to kind of stratify responses based on folks connection to the opioid epidemic. So that way we can look at, do people who have a close loved one think differently than people who have personal experience think differently than people who have no connection? Just so that way we can kind of think about, you know, where are the priorities for the people who really need them or really, really need services for this. And we're also able to kind of, I think, you know, some people have been a little bit shocked that we had, you know, around 50% in about each town who indicated no impact, which means that there's about 50% of people in each town who had some connection to the opioid epidemic in some way. So really trying to demonstrate that there is need in this region for these services. As far as age goes, we had a pretty good spread. I've got to say, which can sometimes be hard with survey work to capture, particularly those folks in the kind of 18 to 34. You can see we struggled a little bit there with that age group. But the 35 to 64 group, we actually did a really good job engaging with, which is exciting, as well as with our 65 enough population. So we're very pleased with that. When we looked at the response across gender, we had about, you know, three quarters of our respondents were female. And that is very, very common for public health research and for surveys in general. To see this kind of a gender split just means that there's more work to be done with engaging community members who are not women. And I think this is just kind of a, you know, as we think about maybe are we going to do this again at some point, like, what gifts to our approach should we make in order to engage the folks we were not able to reach with this initial survey? We also asked some questions about race and ethnicity. The majority of survey respondents were white and not Hispanic or Latino, as well as some folks who prefer not to even serve. But we did get a little, this is honestly a little bit more representation race and ethnicity wise than we saw in some of the other surveys. So again, more work to be done with trying to reach out into the communities that we're not hearing from as much going forward. We did have some interesting differences. I do want to caveat that the data we collected is not normally distributed. So we can't use certain statistical tests and models. And due to that low sample size, there were very many detectable significant differences between predictive variables. But I'm going to show some graphs to kind of demonstrate some of the work that we've been doing. And you'll also be able to, we're working on reports for each of our individual communities, but we currently have a report of the regional data. And the nice thing about the regional data set is it's so big. We were able to do a lot more in terms of statistical tests. So that report I think is really interesting. I will preface by saying it's like 38 pages long, so you're probably very busy and might not get to read all of it. But I recommend you take a peek. So the survey's main kind of goal was to help us to figure out which strategies related to opioid use disorder that are allowable under the funds we should be prioritizing. So strategy one is support for treatment and recovery. Strategy two is support for people in treatment and recovery. Strategy three is connection to care. Strategy four is harm reduction. Strategy five is criminal justice involved persons. Strategy six is pregnant and parenting women and families impacted by opioid use disorder. And strategy seven is prevention, education, and also thinking about anti-stigma work. So as you can see from our means, prevention came up as a real priority for folks. Connection to care came up. So things like early identification, having it be an easier process for people to get from having a substance use issue identified to actually receiving care, as well as thinking about some harm reduction strategies and our pregnant and parenting women and families who are impacted by this issue. So this is one of the graphs from the regional data. It's looking a little crazy up there. So bear with me. I'm going to try and explain it to the best of my ability. But basically what we did was we split. This is again, the regional data. So that's these ends are 765 people said that they did not have a family member, friend, or loved one who is actively using in treatment or in recovery. And so what you can see is that the median for both of these groups is the same at four. But what these little wavy kind of lines. These are called violin blocks because they look like the body of a violin. What these wavy lines are showing is kind of how many people responded to each to the question with each thing going from one, two, three, four, and five. So you can see that we have a little bit more variation in who responded across the board. And over here, we have a lot more answers proportionally of five, four, and three and less of two and one than we're seeing over here. So what we're learning from this plot is that people who have a family member, friend, or loved one who is actively using in treatment or in recovery. They're more likely to rank this strategy higher of harm reduction. Does that make sense? Have I lost you yet? Okay. Awesome. Sometimes, you know, sometimes when you're looking at these things, your eyes kind of glaze over. I do it myself. Because I'm more interested in the qualitative data. That's kind of more my bread and butter. I had a lot of help with the quantitative data. But the qualitative stuff is where I kind of really dig in. So we did focus groups with four priority areas. So we had a focus group with folks with lived and living experience. We had one with folks who had supported or lost a loved one or are currently supporting a loved one through their recovery or active addiction. We had one with folks who have a professional connection to the topic, but they don't necessarily work in our town. So doctors, substance use professionals, clinical social workers, things like that. And then I had a concerned citizen group, which was folks who signed up to do the focus group, but didn't necessarily have a super concrete connection to the topic. They were just really passionate to talk about it. And I definitely did not want to leave them out. And then on the right, you can see where our participants came from. So we had a pretty good spread across the region of where folks came from, which was very exciting. And then we also did 15 key informant interviews, which was one on one with me and someone. So we tried to kind of hit a lot of the folks in these towns who would have some type of knowledge about this topic area. So first responders, medical and treatment professionals who specifically serve the folks from this area, recovery professionals, community based organizations that work kind of alongside this topic. Councils on aging schools, faith leaders, so really trying to hit lots of different people who might be able to give us some insight into what this issue looks like in the region. And from our 15 key informant interviews, this was the breakdown town by town, as well as some interviews ended up covering either the entire region or the majority of the region for those positions like things like faith leaders and community based organizations in particular. Then what I was left with was 20 hours of recorded qualitative data that we transcribed and put into this app called deduce, which is a qualitative analysis software. And then we read through me and my partner in this, Kaylee read through all of these things and coded every quote and said, this is what we think that this person is talking about. And then we would check with each other to make sure we were on track. And it spit us out this kind of fun little diagram that the bigger the word, the more times we coded something with that firm. So as you can see, prevention came up a ton in our qualitative data. This one stood for effective strategy. So we spent a lot of time talking about some of the effective strategies that we could try and implement within the region. We spent a lot of time talking about stigma and the perception of stigma. We spent a lot of time thinking about folks perception of other substances, the direct impact of stigma. And so then we kind of had to like dig through all of this a little bit more and it gets a little more into it into the report. I don't want to super bore you because then we'll get into some of the actual quotes that folks gave us. Because along with the qualitative data from the interviews and focus groups, we also had open response questions on the survey, which also generated a ton of qualitative data. That was really great. And so this is specifically thinking about the focus groups and key informant interviews. But we just kind of basically ranked based on what the most talked about categories were. And as you can see, prevention really came to the top, which we were very much expecting treatment. And, you know, this is like direct support for treatment and then connection to care. Recovery is more like helping folks when they're leaving treatment, make sure that they have the support that they need. And we saw then harm reduction, criminal justice involved persons and supporting pregnant or parenting people. These are some of the open responses that I got from folks in Wayland. So we asked, how can we best address your concerns about opioid use? Someone who works in a profession that supports those who have been affected by opioid use disorder and has also lost a loved one to overdose said, reduce stigma by normalizing conversation and harm reduction strategies, provide access to evidence based educational resources, community resources and treatment and support services. Then someone who has a loved one who's in active use treatment or recovery said treating the depression and hopelessness that fuels the opioid use through connection and purpose, community jobs, etc. So I really liked what these were talking about, trying to think about how can we connect people with community? How can we start conversations around stigma? How can we make it so that people feel comfortable to come forward when they're struggling with this? When we asked about what people thought was missing, again, coming up with this open dialogue about opioid use and stigma. This is one that really stuck out in a lot of the open responses and key informant was this education for parents and caregivers on how actually to address their children's substance use or exposure to substances. In a lot of my anecdotal conversations, as well as my work through this survey, we've just been hearing a lot from parents who don't really feel like they feel well equipped to have conversations and start conversations with the young people. Not even just parents, caregivers, but the young people in their life about substances. What do you say? Are you worried you're going to put an idea in their head? Those kinds of conversations. So really thinking about how we could use this regional initiative to get some more resources out there for caregivers. And then also a lot of talk about just kind of lack of recovery resources. So specifically places like sober housing or recovery centers that are able to help people get back into the workforce, get clothes, shelter, transportation, food, all the things that you need in order to support your recovery. This is a long one, so I won't read the whole thing. But again, when asked, what do you feel is missing? Someone just really was talking about how the their perception of the culture is that there's, you know, not a lot of conversation around substance use and also mental health, which results in stigma and shame. And then they talked about some ways that we can maybe do better having some community based meetings. Invitations to one time talks might not be as effective, but we really do need to make sure that we're opening up this conversation. When asked about specific barriers, someone said where to find information for help, especially for those that survive under the Wayland poverty line. And then someone else said waiting for a space at treatment centers. And so, again, these are we very often in these open response questions, the responses were I don't know. I don't even know where I would find access to these resources. And so also really trying to get the word out there that there's a lot of resources in this area and that there's lots of work kind of already happening. And on top of that, you know, state resources, things like that. So how can we as health departments across the region do a better job at getting that information out into the public? And so that will be, I think, a big part of my role as we move forward after this assessment. And then we asked folks where they would seek information on resources. And somebody shouted out our co-response clinician, Lauren, who is wonderful. I've gotten to work with her on some projects and we have a lot of fun working together. She's really, really great. So I just love that somebody thought of her and shouted her out on the survey. But generally, folks were looking at either their personal doctor looking online. A lot of folks shouted out town resources like the health department website. And four people said that they wouldn't know where to seek resources for prevention, treatment and recovery. So again, just to summarize, we got a lot of responses about stigma, barriers. Cost was a big one as well. Opening up more community connection and events. There were quite a few responses that had some pretty severe misconceptions about substance use, particularly in the regional data. I can't think of one from the Wayland data off the top of my head. But I think that just kind of further proves this need for some anti-stigma work and really opening up this conversation and getting people accurate information about this issue. And then also talking about the places where people access their resources and information. So based on the data, our suggestions to the region coming out of this were to start, not finish, but start with the priorities of prevention and education, anti-stigma and harm reduction and treatment and recovery. Kind of having those be the three main topic areas that we jump ahead with. Take a minute and, you know, we'll do some evaluation on our programming, see how things are going. Bless you. And then we'll be able to kind of shift our priorities as time goes on. If we feel like something isn't working or we feel like something is a sort of a more present need. But these were kind of ideas to start. Bless you. And one of our things that we're working on right now is establishing the safe regional task force, which would help me to determine programming priorities, evaluate the success of our programs and remain flexible. Because a main thing that I really wanted to make sure as I came into this position that we were thinking about was how to have ongoing community collaboration. I think this survey is a really great jumping off point, but this data is already now eight months old. And by next year, it will be a year and a half old. And then it will be two and a half years old. Right. So how do we maintain relevance and how do we make sure that we're interfacing with the community rather than just being like, well, we put out a survey and kind of cleaning our hands in. So this task force will be primarily comprised of community members from the seven communities who have some type of lived and living experience with the opioid epidemic. And they'll really be working closely with me as well as with our health directors and our public health nurses to make sure that we are staying flexible and relevant and building programming that the community really wants to see. So again, we're currently working on some data briefs and one pagers for all of our seven towns. The regional report is, I believe, we're just waiting on like one last OK from everyone before we're saying that it's finished. But I'm happy to share it with Julia so she can send it to you if you're interested in reading more about what we've been working on. And our regional planning is underway. And I'm also here to assist Wayland and all of my communities. And this has been really great working with everyone. I have my contact info. So if at some point you're interested in learning more, you want to set up a chat and more than happy to do that. And that is everything from me talking. But if you have questions, I'd love to answer that. Where did you put the voting on? We put it out a bunch of places. It kind of depended on each town and what they felt like would work. We did a lot of work with local papers and community like blasts. I believe it went out into the town manager's newsletter. We had some at the library. I think the schools put it out through email. We put paper copies. We had it on the websites. Yeah. A lot of like my COAs and libraries put paper copies out for people who didn't feel comfortable taking it online. So then I would collect those paper copies and input them into the form myself. Blue clinics. Blue clinics. I did. I came to a bunch of blue clinics and I was like, We were trying to crack people down. Yeah. There was a lot of like work that went into that. And still, you know, it's so hard to get people. So that's just after like the sampling. So you got a pretty broad. Yeah. A lot of different general population. Yeah. I think so. So next time, I feel like I learned a lot of lessons about where it was more successful than other places. But for sure, I think getting out into the community based events is really huge. And getting in front of people and actually opening up that conversation and being like, Hey, I'm a real person and you should take this survey. Instead of like seeing it on a computer and being like, I'm going to click pass, right? You have that like one second of either they're going to engage or they're not. Whereas I can kind of be like, would you like to hear more about all of this cool stuff that we're thinking of doing? Yeah. And so that was really successful. Do you still have funds? Do you still have funds? Do you still have funds? Do you still have funds? Oh, so the opioid funds in Wayland are being used for the co-response clinician, Lauren. And so, you know, we are sort of a little bit different than the rest of the region because the rest of the region are seven towns that we have are using a portion of their opioid funds to, you know, fund Olivia's position. Although my understanding from the town manager is that going forward, you know, he's looking at carving out some funds from our settlement money to kick in towards Olivia's position going forward. So we definitely want to continue to have you part of our work that we do here as well as, you know, continue to have Lauren, you know, she's working full time. And so, you know, since we didn't have a co-response clinician, we, that was really a priority for the town. We, you know, knew how much money was coming in and took a long look at how it should be spent and what other towns have for, you know, response roles as opposed to prevention. So now we've got both and we've been working together, you know, Olivia's come to a lot of our meetings where we're talking about different plans, you know, in the community and, you know, funding strategies for going forward on other grants that, you know, we're hoping to get and potential events coming down the pike and things like that. Yeah, so I'm permitting or collaborating with Wayland Youth and Family Services on some youth programming this summer. So that's been really great. And part of that is funded by a grant that we received to think about arts-based projects that we could do with youth to talk about particularly around like peer pressure and what are they hearing from their peers and just open up that conversation and also giving them the tools to be advocates within their peer groups about you know, not trying substances if they can avoid it. And also advocating for, you know, whatever potential, there's always something going on at the Statehouse about whether it be around nicotine or alcohol or other substances that youth can be getting engaged with. So we're very excited about that as well. Are you done with the school nurses and the community help workers that work with the schools as well? A little bit. A little bit. We're building. We're building. Okay. Yeah. A lot of this role I have learned is relationship building and relationship management, figuring out who the key players are. So the Wayland Youth and Family Services does work with the schools so that would be a way in. Exactly. Exactly. Right. Exactly. You got to find the person who knows the person who knows the person. Jay Burkowski comes to our meetings, too. Right. So he's there so we can, you know, collaborate with them as well. The teachers of the school are, like, at the time, like, in the Wayland School system compared with where I'm in the school, they're so great about tying things that are important into their curriculums. Yeah. So I don't know the art teacher might be. Yeah. Some of the art teachers of the high schools. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, we're excited to kind of pilot the program this summer. And then we're going to put together an evaluation plan, see how it goes, and then hopefully open it up beyond that, maybe run sessions during the school year or continue it summer over summer. So that's something I'm really looking forward to working across. Yeah. Very exciting. And so up until, you know, recently where we had the CTCI funds, the contact tracing grant, where we were able to take some money from that grant and pay for Olivia's, our portion of the salary for Olivia's position. So, but that grant, as you know, will be ending on June 30th. So going forward, you know, we're looking at, hopefully, the plan is to carve some money out of our opioid settlement funds to put towards our portion of the salary. So, yeah. Anybody have any other questions? Good. Good job. Thanks, everyone. Thanks for coming in. I'm so happy to be here. I like doing this. Thanks for all your help. Thank you. So, have a wonderful rest of your evening. Thank you for having me. And again, reach out anytime. Thank you. Absolutely. Thanks. All right. Move on to Turkey Hill Village Condos. Request for extension of time. Complete a Suffolk repair on a failed system. So, we're a little early, and I don't know. Oh, is that someone coming up? I'm just looking to see if... One second. We could do some other things in the meantime. Let me just see. Yeah. We don't have anyone here yet. Yes, we do. Oh, we do. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't see you there, although you're clearly there. So, I guess we can go forward with the request. Although we're off schedule, so I don't know if we want to wait. We might want to wait until the scheduled time, which is 730. We do that. We can wait until 730. Just given the type of request, you know. It's a request for an extension. So, I think we should probably cover some of the miscellaneous things first. Just a suggestion. Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. So, I can give you a few updates. So, the catch basin treatments with VTI for mosquito larvae have been in process. They may even be completed by now, but those have been... The East Middlesex mosquito control project has been working on those. So, every year we treat our catch basins with... I believe it's a 90-day product. It's like a briquette. And it's activated with rain. So, hopefully there's some rain to activate the briquettes. They're spraying the catch basin top area with a white dot. So, that's how they're indicating that the area has been treated. We did have an update from the mosquito control project about their helicopter treatments, which covered 1,750 acres. And some of the comments from a recent meeting I attended for our projects, towns that are all involved that participate with the services that they provide. And, you know, some of the highlights were the severity of the drought that we're in. And, you know, there's a lot of question marks regarding what type of year this will be for mosquito-borne illness. Some of the mosquito species that are typically a problem during a summer where there's normal precipitation, they're, you know, not thriving. And since we've had such a cold winter, some of the species like Asian tiger, which is more of a warm weather mosquito, is not resistant to cold winters. The Tulex pipiens had high numbers last year with the higher numbers of West Nile virus. We don't know what will happen this season. There's another species, perturbans, that are more not in Wayland, thankfully, because we don't really have the types of breeding areas as much as some other communities do, like marshes and cattail areas or areas where those mosquitoes might be more prevalent. It seems like that species is increasing in numbers more than some of the other species. So those were just some of the comments that were made during one of the updates from the mosquito control project. They're trying to use some new types of trapping methods to get a better sample that represents all species as opposed to some of the more common species that are out there. So they're working on some experimental trapping devices as they were getting too many of those perturbants. So I'd have to check our reports from last year to see if we were receiving more perturbants or not. You know, so we'll see what we're getting this year. They're going to start doing surveillance and testing in mid June. And so we'll have more information, you know, once they start testing in Wayland. And I'll have an idea of, you know, how many locations they have. They usually have some gravid traps that are closer to the ground and they have light traps also. So we'll be doing a four day work week again this summer that will be starting the week of the 26th of June. And we'll have Mondays till 7 still. And then Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday will be till 530. And then Friday will be the day off. So that'll be the schedule until the end of August. Let's see. We are starting with our cyanobacteria and microcystin testing for this season at the town beach. We've already done two rounds. There was one round that was done because we were notified that there was a bloom happening at middle ponds of Lake Chichwit. We're at North pond where the town beaches. So we automatically started doing our testing and we did have some high readings at the very beginning of season, which was the end of May. I read they close the beach over there. They did. Yeah. So then we did another test the following week. So our numbers went from pretty high to super low that very quickly. So the weather change. What do you think? You know, it seems like something that happens. I don't know for sure, but it's a different type of an algae that I don't think we saw as much of last year. So it's it's hard to know exactly. But it could be related to, you know, the air temperature, water temperature. You know, I thought it would be different this year because, you know, with the cold temperatures we had over the winter and a lot of the algae, you know, may be affected at the bottom of the lake. So, you know, the deeper it freezes. But I don't know that, you know, I was asking questions about that at a meeting that I went to for some training and they weren't really sure they didn't really want to commit to responding how the season will go. So it's hard to know. But we are doing testing this week. We sent a sample into the lab for the algae counts, and then we do our own rapid strip test for microcystin toxins. So Ann Lurie, who's our regional health agent, she'll be doing that rapid strip test for the microcystins and the lab handles the other part of the testing. So we are underway, you know, with our visual observation, you know, we go down to the beach, we do a visual observation, we take a few pictures, we take the samples, send them off to the lab. Also for E. coli, which is required by the state to keep the beach open, we have to test for E. coli every week. So, you know, the water has been looking really good, but now it's you know, with the hot weather, it's hard to say. You know, it was also with a lot of foul water fowl that, you know, kind of gather sometimes in different parts of the lakes. So it depends how all those behaviors and activities are going, but we'll have the data to help us make decisions as opposed to just the visual observation, because I did see that the state. The state, although I think they're still, are they, are they still closed? I think they are still closed. So they have to have two consecutive weeks of low numbers to be able to reopen and the numbers they had last week were very low. I don't know what they were when they closed the beach because they don't do testing. It was just visual. They just do visual. So I don't know. It would be interesting to see if they could start, you know, doing a sample every now and then. But that's why they're so interested in our information. They're always reaching out to me and asking, Oh, how did your report come out? What were the numbers? And, you know, so, which I'm happy to share with, but. It's better when it's dry or not always. Well, there's less runoff, so I'm sure that helps. That definitely is an impact because, you know, we've seen some problems with runoff with E. coli. Yeah. And also with, you know, some of the just different fertilizers and things running off of people's property is getting into the lake. If there's heavy, heavy rain that can really impact the algae blooms. You know, there might be a bloom resulting from that. And if the water temperature starts going up, those things can happen pretty quickly. So, but we're keeping an eye on it with all those things. Unfortunately, Jenna Chase has resigned. She was our part time assistant and she is moving on, unfortunately, but we'll be posting the job after June 30th. So we'll start doing the search and hopefully we'll be able to find someone pretty quickly. Let's see. We had an inquiry from the select board member Tom Fay regarding ticks and different tick-borne illnesses as well as deer population management. And so, you know, I did a little research on we are actually doing some work on tick education with our regional counterparts. So Kaylee Watson, who is our regional coordinator, who basically oversees the regional staff that we have, which Olivia is part of that staff. I don't know if she's working on ticks. I think Ann is. So I think they'll be working together on that. But there's plans for some educational programs and, you know, bring people in to hear experts speak about, you know, ticks and mosquitoes and tick-borne illnesses, prevention. You know, some tips on, you know, some basic things that people can do to prevent, you know, getting a tick attached that could potentially, you know, transmit some of these illness, terrible illnesses that people are getting. And there was an article that I shared. I don't know if anyone had a chance to read it. No red meat, no dairy, no end in sight about Martha's Vineyard and alpha-gal syndrome. Very disturbing to read how prevalent that is in Martha's Vineyard. And I did a little research on, you know, just how things are handled in certain, you know, depending on who owns the land determines basically what potential hunting laws are overarching in those properties. So in Wayland, we have, you know, U.S. fisheries and wildlife, which is owned by the federal government that has had expansion from the Trump administration in hunting. And recently also with Governor Healy, who's expanding to Sundays to allow hunting as well. And there's a good part, there's a lot of areas in Wayland that are owned by the federal government where there's wetlands, you know, and so I'm working on trying to get a little information on, you know, how much land that covers versus conservation and Sudbury Valley trustees. Sudbury Valley trustees also allows hunting. They issue permits for hunting. Conservation in Wayland does not. And I did talk to Linda a little bit about that. She had some knowledge that she was sharing, you know, about the coyote population, which has gone way up because they've been, you know, noted to have more packs and they're hunting deer in packs because of the population. But that is definitely a factor that I think their population, the coyote population increased because a lot of the deer, I think, couldn't handle the cold over the winter. And so they were feeding on the deer. We just talked a little bit about that. Well, I got a lot of rabbits this year and I don't know why, but the coyotes aren't taking care of them. There are a lot of rabbits eating my perennials. Do you notice there's a lot? Oh yeah, even down the Cape, there's tons of them. So, you know, those, those are just a few things that we talked about. Conservation does have a lot of people that hike their properties in Wayland. It's very busy. I just want to ask that because, like, I think, like, I would need education on how to protect myself and my dogs. Yeah. From, like, people hunting. Like, my son used to take my dogs, he worked in the forestry, and he put a special orange jacket for the dog. Yeah. So people need to know those type of things. Well, currently, there's no hunting allowed on conservation properties in Wayland. Aren't the trustees, don't people walk on that? Sudbury Valley trustees is a different organization, and they do allow hunting by permit. But they allow walking too, right? Yes. So that, you know, I don't know what their rules are for, you know, how they handle their permits. But, yes, they do allow it. Conservation does not. They are, you know, Linda at least is not interested in allowing hunting on conservation land. She thinks there's enough hunting that goes on the large amount of federal land that we have in Wayland. So, you know, she, that would be the channel to, you know, if someone was interested in opening up hunting on conservation land, it would be through the commission. So, you know, but these are just some things, you know, I was interested in more of the educational component. And I'm asking about, you know, potentially our regional counterparts that are working on some of these things. And they've been doing a lot. There was a whole brochure that was put together recently that I just put out on the website. I don't have one with me, but I can share it with you all. It's great. Also. Who controls hunting licenses in Wayland? Who do you apply to for hunting? So I don't know how you. State license, I believe. It's a state. Is it a state license? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But if it was a town land, I think you'd have to go through the town as well. I don't think they, I think they either allow it or don't allow it. Yeah. Okay. I don't know how it's handled, but some towns allow bow hunting. And so. They could go like, there's a bunch of places. I think it might fall in the same category as a fishing license. Okay. Possibly. Maybe. I mean, we talked a little bit about bow hunting because they do allow bow hunting and Weston. And Linda's perspective on that was, you know, I'm not that familiar with bow hunting, but, you know, she thinks that a lot of people that are bow hunting don't necessarily kill the animal. It's injured and it ends up, you know, running off because, you know, there's a lot of skill involved with, you know, shooting the arrow correctly. And so, you know, there's just a lot of information out there that, you know, I'm gathering together to provide some feedback to Tom Faye, who was very interested in this. But one of the things that I thought would be helpful is to have fresh signs put up regarding tick borne diseases that potentially could be put on trails in town, because we've done that before. But people take them down, believe it or not, they, you know, do graffiti on them, they remove them. So, you know, they just need to be updated every once in a while. So that's something I'm looking into because we had done that a while back. But it should be refreshed because it's something as a reminder, you know, when you're walking into a trail, you know, so some of the things to be aware of. Yeah, for girl, situation has made people a lot more. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, you know, some of the information that I was able to gather regarding, you know, the federal government expanding hunting, some of the experiences like on Martha's Vineyard, how they're dealing with this whole alpha gall syndrome. That was that was an excellent article. You can link it maybe to this website. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, it was very good. So tick prevention, I think, is really important. So that's, you know, one of the things that we really want to hone in on. And we have well, we have a new website, so I've been trying to learn how to use it. It's not that hard, but it just takes time to sit down and, you know, be able to go through. So I'm working on getting our website updated with more stuff. Are there any, like, state, like, Department of Public Health at the state level in the tick treatments that they would recommend? Because there's so many out there, like, they're always analyzing for tick treatments for your backyard and, like, you don't know what's in them. Are they effective? Are they safe for your pets? And they'll say yes, yes to everything. Well, yeah. You can put them on the next day after it dries up, but it's still there. I'm hoping that some of the educational sessions that we have with some of these subject matter experts can talk to those things, because I have the same questions from what I gather. You know, some of these oils, heavy rain, they're gone the next day. You know, you wasted your money, you know, I mean, and so I don't know. I think a lot of the landscaping could be something that is, and I have some brochures that were done a few years back on how to landscape your yard to help prevent ticks, you know, as far as keeping the lawn trimmed and, you know, preventing brush from, you know, or maybe avoiding getting into brush if you're not, you know, wanting that in your yard. Well, you keep the deer out. Yeah. That's the goal. Yeah. If there's no deer in there, you're not getting any. That's another thing. But there's also mice, you know, mice and other mammals also carry ticks. Yep. Let's get some tick tubes. There's a lot of different things that could be done. Tick tubes for the mice. Yeah. So what does it do? You put basically a toilet paper roll and you put cotton in it with soaked in pyrethrin that kills the tick and then the mice take it back and then build their nest out of it. And then all the ticks on the mice die. So it ends the cycle. Oh. Hmm. What about, what about. I've heard of that. What about your dog? It's not. It's not toxic. They spray it on horses and stuff. It's not. It's not toxic. Doesn't kill the mice. Absolutely. Well, I mean, I would say if people were using permethrin, they should use it based on the label, the instructions on the label, you know, because it's something that is important to use properly. You know, we tell people if they want to use pretreated clothing, that's okay. As far as using it to treat, you know, other clothing items or things like that. I don't think I would recommend it, but to do tick tubes, that's another whole, I mean, I've heard of that before, you know, when I've heard of people taking an initiative to do tick tubes. I don't know much about it. I've just heard. I also think not having plants that deer want to come in your yard for is helpful. Yeah. Right. True. They're in there munching on your costas. That's. Yeah. You know the costas anyway. And you're encouraging them to come in. That's very true. So, yeah, I would say. Did we have the kits given out last year? We, we still have some left. Yeah. Tick removal kits. We have. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. So. Anyway, then we, so we're at. Little past our time and we've got. Betty on the screen. So whenever she comes back from wherever she went, there she is. Okay. So that's for the Turkey Hill. 90 day extension for their new septic repair. Betty, you're on, you're on. Yeah, there you are. Sorry about that. No problem. Well, we are asking for an extension beyond the June 21st deadline that we have to repair a septic system behind three of our condos. And we hired, we have a management company. We hired them, their project department to take this on and do the work that needed to be done. They started out really well and then they fell apart. Um, we didn't hear from them for months, even though we were contacting them regularly. They lost a staff member and there was a lot of aggravation, uh, because we want to get this done. Finally, and it wasn't until last month at the end of the month, we heard that they finally got one bid for the project. We have a policy, um, that, you know, anything over $10,000 has to have a multiple, uh, bids. And this project is about $180,000. They indicated that they, um, you know, it was hard to get other people that aren't already on the list in Whalen. I mean, they just made a lot of excuses. And they finally hired somebody new. And now, as of last week, we have a second bid. Also about $180,000. Our hope is the board has a meeting later this month. Um, our plan is to decide which vendor and go forward with it. And I chair the board, by the way. That's why I'm on here. So that is our request. Yeah. So there's a design that was approved by the health department. Darren approved it on February 3rd of 2026. So, um, you know, they did their work and they had the design done. So, um, I mean, we feel like we don't see a reason why we wouldn't give them more time. We know that they've been struggling with a few things and one of them is getting these bids. So, of course, is it a public health hazard in the failure? Is it breaking out or anything? No. Okay. Not to my knowledge. No. Yeah. That is not the case. Yep. There's no questions, uh, so we need a motion, please. Make a motion to grant an extension for time to complete a subject repair and a failed system at Turkey Village Condo. I second. Okay. Roll call. Captain Steph? Katie? Yes. John Stewart? Yes. John Stewart? Yes. Dr. Genevina? Dr. Bob and Francesco. That's approved. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. We'll look forward to hearing, um, you know, what's the latest update once you have more, um, info on the bids and the installer and all that, so. Well, hopefully, uh, we will have that in place soon so this can get started already. Great. Yep. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. You're welcome. I don't know. I think we have. Carolyn? Yes. Are you in the wheel? I am. Nice to meet you. You too. Sure. Come on off. Oh, thank you. I should steal this chair. Of course not. I was just thinking that. Better for my back. Careful of the cords there. Got it. Thanks. What does the closed hearing mean? It just means that it's closed from opening it up and then closing it for the for the, for the actual, um, agenda. Okay. John, are you, you still want to keep looking at that? No, I mean, we can, if you still. No, I can look at it. We've already. Yeah. I just curious. Yeah. All right. Hello. Hey, so we're moving on to. Yep. One 57 bucks in driving. Yes. Yes. Press for more time to complete repairs. Yes. Okay. So, um, I'm Carolyn Langer. I'm the, um, owner of the property. Actually it's the LLC is the owner. Technically I'm the manager, but, um, so, um, I live at 71 bucks skin drive. So just down the road. And, uh, I bought one 57 bucks skin drive a number of years ago. Uh, eventually for my daughter, when she gets married and lives there. Uh, I mentioned that because, um, I've always taken very good care of the property. Uh, you know, especially, uh, I don't know if you're familiar with bucks skin drive. It's in Western estates, beautiful street. Um, so of course I'm always going to take good care of the property and, uh, you know, maintain the property value, uh, especially because someday my daughter is going to live there. And by the way, um, I would be remiss if I didn't mention also that I'm a physician on board certified in occupational medicine. So I, you know, have a good understanding of the, um, health and environmental issues. And, um, so I'm here tonight to request an extension on the, um, repairs to one 57 bucks can drive. Um, as I mentioned in my letter a week ago, and, um, you probably didn't have a chance to see my new letter. Cause I had a crazy day at work and just, uh, I just sent it like a couple hours ago. So you'd probably. Yeah. So, um, you, yeah, just, it's just, it's just an update. I can just summarize for you. So, um, Julia suggested that I just provide you with a summary from the mold inspector and the, um, um, remediation companies. So, um, so we have, um, so this house sustained some water damage, like many houses in the, um, you know, bad blizzards. We had in January and February had, uh, an ice dam. It caused some water leak into the wall, the, between the exterior of the house and the, uh, uh, son's bedroom on the second floor. And then also into the right bay of the garage. So, um, I did call Sprague roofing to scrape off the snow and then brought in ServPro to do remediation. Um, ServPro, uh, brought in, um, dryers and, um, they also put heaters in the garage. They took down the, uh, drywall in the son's room. Um, they also, um, uh, put, um, an antimicrobial over the water damage area where there was some black staining in the cavity, um, behind where the drywall was removed in the son's room as well as well as in the, um, garage. Um, they, um, also, um, removed a portion of the, um, um, wall in the garage area and part of the ceiling area. Um, and so, um, the, um, the tenant, um, got a little bit, um, um, um, hysterical, I guess. You know, she told me she had a friend who lived in an apartment in Waltham who, um, had bad mold exposure and, um, eventually developed health problems. And, uh, so she really just kind of freaked out. Um, uh, and she, uh, refused to allow the repair work to go on. She brought in her own mold inspector who had questionable techniques. My insurance company brought in their mold inspector who's a certified industrial hygienist. He found no evidence of any sort of, um, um, airborne, um, um, mold exposure. Uh, no elevated, uh, levels. Um, in addition, um, it, because they refused to allow ServPro to come back, I hired another company called Restopro. They're also a mediation, uh, remediation company. They came in recently. They checked for moisture levels, um, both the mold inspector and Restopros, which, um, has IICRC, um, accreditation certification. Uh, neither one of them found any, um, elevated moisture levels, um, including, um, in the wood, in the wall cavity, um, behind where the drywall was removed from the kid's bedroom. Um, and the conclusion of both was that there are no, um, elevated airborne spore, uh, levels anywhere in the house, including in the areas that were affected by the water damage. And, um, uh, Restopros, uh, the remediation company also concluded that based on his inspection, uh, uh, and the mold testing results, um, um, and the mold testing results, there were, uh, no indications of elevated airborne mold spore levels, um, anywhere in the house, including emanating from that cavity behind the drywall in the toddlers in the son's room where, uh, they sustained some water damage. So, he concluded that the conditions observed during his inspection, uh, do not indicate a need for, uh, additional remediation based on the areas he evaluated, which were the two water-damaged areas, as well as the husband's office, which was not impacted by the water damage, but it's adjacent to the son's room and, uh, felt that the, uh, repair work could move forward. Um, incidentally, um, I do have, have had for a while, um, all the requisite contractors lined up. I've already paid sizable deposits to start the work. Uh, the, the tenant has been very difficult. She's refused entry on May 21st. An electrician came in to change out the outlet in the son's room and, uh, uh, redo some of the wiring there as well as in the garage. They refused entry. I then had to engage a lawyer who now has to send a demand letter delivered by hand by a constable or, uh, certified mail return receipt if we want our contractors to gain entry to the house. So she's been very, very challenging to deal with. Um, in fact, recently she sent me an email saying she wants 48 hours notice, even though the lease says 24 hours notice for me or a contractor to come onto the premises. So that has led to significant, uh, delays because now I have to line up a contractor probably 60 to 72 hours in advance in order to allow time for the constable to give the 24 to 48 hours notice. We haven't determined which is actually required yet, but some advance notice. So that's caused significant delays. Um, but, um, um, uh, we are using a company called build back for the repair and reconstruction. They estimate that, um, including time to allow for inspection because, um, they said that they have to have the town inspect for the, the, the electrical inspection, the framing inspection, the insulation inspection, the final electrical inspection, and the final inspection. So when you include that plus the time for all the repairs, they're estimating about one to one and a half months to complete their repairs. Uh, that's for all the interior work, mostly in the, uh, son's bedroom and in the garage. Another contractor called Sprague Exteriors, uh, estimates they'll need about one to two weeks to repair, um, the exterior. So this includes applying vinyl siding, uh, to the south side of the house, which had some, um, um, chipping of the paint from the, uh, rough winter, uh, repairing and wrapping window trim. Uh, they're also going to, uh, do some other miscellaneous repairs. They have to repair a fascia and rake and bondo sand and paint. So altogether for all of that, uh, about one to two weeks, uh, depending on weather, since that's all outdoor work inspections. And then of course, uh, access by the tenant. Um, and then Julia also wanted me to address what we're going to do to prevent future ice stamps. So, uh, the contractor is, uh, going to be installing soffit vents in the attic. And he's doing that in order to slow down the melting of the snow on the roof, which then would, um, reduce the blockage of ice at the edge. And even though he said that that would be sufficient to prevent future ice stamps, I am out of an abundance of caution. Also going to be installing, um, heating cables on the roof. Smart. Yeah. And if you know a good electrician, I do have one that was recommended, but if you know somebody even better. Um, and then, uh, there was concern that the, uh, back steps, there are two steps leading from the deck in the back, uh, down to the ground. It has one handrail. It was suggested that we install a second handrail. And then there are a couple of planks in the deck that, um, apparently are deteriorating or, uh, need some more nails banged into them. So we do have Phil Sandock. I don't know if you know Phil. He's a local whaling guy. He's a, uh, carpenter and a contractor. He said it should take him about three to five days, depending on weather. So, um, all in all, um, if we can get everything done, uh, in terms of getting the inspections done, getting access to the premises, we estimate it should take about one to one and a half months to finish up the repairs. I think we can only provide a one month extension by, by the code. Ah, okay. We can revisit it again. Um, that's my understanding. I didn't realize that it was going to be over a month. So, well, um, that's what build back said only because they're building in. So they built in a week to get the electrical inspection done. They built in three to five days for the framing inspection. So if you have connections, uh, they built in, uh, three to five days for the final electrical inspection and three to five days for the final final inspection. So I see season. Yeah. So, um, yeah, so I think they're just trying to, um, build in some cushion in case the inspections take a while to get done. Okay. Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Uh, I make a motion to, um, grant the extension for repairs for the month. That's allowed. And, um, that's 157 bucks. Do we have a second? Second. Okay. Let's do roll call. Catherine Stiff? Yes. John storm. Yes. Dr. Genevieve enough. Dr. Bathy Francesco. It's approved. All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Thanks for coming in. Thank you. I'll probably give you a call tomorrow. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Good luck. Thank you. And thank you for your service. You all work long days. So it's nice. You take the time to do this. Thank you. Good. We have, um, another, uh, complaint that I wanted to mention. Sure. Uh, you know, it's funny cause when I, first time I said to the town manager, you know, we're getting a lot of complaints. It's like, people are complaining about you. And I'm like, no, they're complaining to me. This is how it is. You know, so we get. Don't tell them about the complaints about you. If they, you would know if they were complaining about me. Oh, I know her. So, um, anyway, uh, we have a person who's complaining about the gun club, broadened gun club. You may or may not have. Is this who you know? No, it's, it's a neighbor though. What's her name? Oh, um, Parish. No, no, no. The one that you've, um, that's in the same neighborhood that the house there was having some issues. Uh, you talking about the piece? The, the. You drove her here. Because. Oh, yes. You know her? No. I know. I know somebody that complained about you. I'm sorry. I'm like, there's so many different. See? There's so many. Oh, uh, an update on 10. Sure. I'll jump around a little bit. Um, I think, you know, for financial reasons, possibly, you know, due to the end of the year, they're, they're, um, planning we're moving forward with that situation through town council. That's really all I can say in a public meeting. But, um, I believe that, you know, after June 30th, things will move forward. Um, so I have not spoken to, um, the owner of 10 shore in quite a while. So, um, the back to the gun rod and gun club, um, complaint. Um, complaint from, uh, Trisha. Has Shriek. Pass. Rica. From, um, 51 river view. Did you all have a chance to read this? Okay. So, um, she is a physician and she is, um, recording the, um, decibels of the gun fire from the gun club and, um, is very concerned about, you know, her children who can't play in the yard. Um, you know, she's aware that back in, um, she's right adjacent to the gun club. So her house is very close to their property. Uh, back in 2013, the board of health responded to a complaint about the gun club, that gun clubs are exempt from DEP noise regulations. Um, she wants to address that directly. I have not had a chance to look into her, um, you know, thought process regarding, um, you know, chapter 269, section 12 E. Um, although I do know that gun clubs, um, the, the laws have not changed since that time. I have recently spoken to Michelle then Delmar from mass DEP on a different topic, um, that we'll talk about next time and mentioned this to her as well. And, you know, she said that that was still the same. Nothing has changed, um, regarding gun clubs being exempt from DEP noise regulations. So I don't know if anyone else has different thoughts, um, regarding this complaint. Um, I just wanted to make sure I brought it up, you know, to, um, the board was addressed to, um, the board and myself. I haven't spoken to, um, the resident yet. I did reply and, you know, acknowledged the receipt. How long is she living there? Um. I don't remember reading that. What's the address? 51 Riverview Circle. 22. Okay. So four years. It's a difficult one. Yeah. So. Is she the only house in proximity to it? No, there's other, there's a whole neighborhood near there. I mean, they're probably the closest, I think, from, um, what I gather. Mm-hmm. Because when I go visit Penn Shore, I have to go around and I sort of take a loop to check out, you know, just see what's going on in the neighborhood. Check out the neighborhood. Yes. Neighborly clutch. Right. So. Has the gun club changed at all in the last four years? I mean, that's a good question. I don't know. I mean, we don't have any connection to, like, correspond with them. It hasn't changed as far as I've been in there before. Yeah. I mean, right next to a gun club, I guess. That is true. It was there. It was there. Yeah. There were all the complaints. Okay. I mean, I'm not aware of anything changing over there, but, you know, I can try to find out. Maybe the front office would know if there was any change, you know, or the someone, maybe the police department would know. Yeah. I could ask. It would know. Find out if there's any, like, ranges that were moved or anything like that. Do they have firing windows? Do they have the gun club is indoors or do they have outdoor? Outdoor. I thought they had outdoor. They're outdoor. They're outdoor as well. Yeah. I've never been over there, so I don't know. But. But that's very scary. Right. So did they move, you know, shift things around? I doubt it. Yeah. Probably not. Yeah. Let me just see.
Ray Willis of. Well, I'm sorry. This was from the town engineer to Ray Willis regarding the Oxbow. I think Greece is situation with their septic system and the concerns for the or not septic. Well, it is a septic system, but it, you know, is connected to town sewer. So there was some correspondence. This goes back a while, but recently I was looking at it and I don't think I had shared it, but you know, it was regarding performance concerns and follow up, you know, regarding checking into the samples, how they were done and you know that they were going to be doing some sampling on the town side. And they're, you know, saying that without treat without pretreatment conditions conditions will continue to degrade performance of the system and reduce the useful light of the town infrastructure. This represents a town's sole opportunity to allow additional sampling. And so, you know, they were very concerned about the, I think what was coming out, you know, the, the effluent and the grease levels. And so I think I'll be following up on this because this is just sort of some back and forth emails. But I just figured I would mention that there was still dialogue going on regarding that problem. And I know there were, there was a problem all over at Baldwin Pond wastewater, or not wastewater, water treatment facility that in May, May 13th, that they requested to have emergency use of MWRA water. And until such repair could be made, which I'm not sure if that has happened yet or not, but there was some kind of air system failure. Potentially it could have been resolved by now, but I'm not really sure. It was around the middle of May, but we were notified formally through a mass DEP letter. I just figured I would mention that because they have to make a formal request to have, you know, emergency use of water and have minutes. We'll be tabling the tobacco regulations until the next, or not July, but August. Okay. Everybody read the minutes. Okay. November 17th, 2025. Do we have a motion to approve? Make a motion to approve the minutes from November 17th, 2025. We have a second. Second. Okay. Let's do a roll call. Catherine. Approve. Okay. Okay. Dr. Genevieve Annette. Yes. John Stoyer. Yes. And Dr. Bob Defrancesco. Those are approved. Let's move on to December 15th, 2025. I'll make a motion to approve the minutes for the medical meeting, but I'll have to approve the 25th. Second. Okay. Roll call. Catherine Stipp. Yes. Yes. Dr. Genevieve Annette. Yes. Dr. Stoyer. Yes. Dr. Bob Defrancesco. That's approved. Thank you. A couple things. Patty's going to be going on vacation for a couple of weeks, so it's going to be a little busy because Jenna's last day is Patty's first day of vacation. So. Oh. So Darren will be answering the phone. We'll all be, I think, covering different roles in the office. So, and then, you know, he's got some physical therapy coming up, so it might be a little bit crazy with inspections field work. We're doing a lot of permitting right now with camps. We've got stacks of binders that have been submitted that we're all currently in the process of reviewing for different summer camps in Wayland. And then, also, I did all the, well, I did most of the inspections for pools. We also had some help with this camp reviews from Ann Lurie, our regional inspector, and from Maureen Lee, no relation, who is doing contract work for our region. So that was a huge help to have camp because having everything at once gets very crazy, especially where we started doing the sampling at the beach and, you know, all that. So it's been very busy getting our steps in for sure. And so while Patty's out, it's going to be a little thin, but we have Becky, who is one of our tax work off folks who comes in to help cover phones and things like that. So we'll just do the best that we can. And we have some appointments that I think you've got. So we just have to go through them and, you know, do a vote, I think. I think you could just do all of them together. Yeah. That might be easier. All right. So as far as the appointments go. So somebody want to make a motion to approve all the appointments here. I make a motion to approve appointments to the board of Pelton Wayland, Julia and Younghans, Health Director and Health Inspector, Dara McCondy, Anna and Lori Health Agents, Deb Spurzman, Food Inspector, Dara Barivola, Tila, Solinda, Tobacco Control Agents, Jennifer Condon, and Brenda on our board. Animal Inspectors, Lisa Raftery, you're the first meeting. Do we have a second? A second. Okay. We'll call Catherine Stiff. Approved. Yes. Dr. Jadavino. Approved. John Stoy. Approved. And Dr. Babishnan. Chief Francesco. Approved. Excellent. So I did ask Lisa Raftery to come in and or give us, you know, some information on some of the work that she's been doing with the Youth Advisory Committee. Usually she either comes in or provides an update of some kind. So she might be coming maybe at one of our next board meetings. She's been on the Advisory Committee for a number of years now. So I'm interested to hear, you know, some of the work they're doing. Because we do work with Jay Berhuski, who is on our opioid settlement group, you know, that we meet once, usually once a month we meet, that also Olivia attends. So, you know, I'm just nice to hear from some of the appointments folks that the board formally appoints as well. Um, and those. Oh, yes. Also, um, we've had a, um, complaint about the geese. I wanted to mention, although I did, um, get in touch with the, um, with Sandra. And she said that she's moving and she's moving all her geese as well. So I'll be, um, in touch with her soon to find out, um, if that's happening or when that's happening. She said within the next couple of weeks. Um, although I think, you know, there's quite a bit of, I think there's quite a few more animals being kept there. Well, more than three. So we're gonna follow up on that. Mm-hmm. And especially where, you know, in a residential neighborhood, it's not like a land, you know, a farm property. And it's summertime. It's. It's hot. It could be four months or five months. Right. Exactly. So I'm gonna look into that a little more, um, to, uh, do an investigation. And I'll get back to that next time. Is that feeding time noise or is that, like, constant noise, do you think? I think it's, um, it's described to me to be pretty often. Well, they may be responding to a call. Yeah. So they, a human will call and the geese will respond or geese to geese or whatever. That's true. And they do respond because they're pets, you know? So there's that connection with, you know, the, um, family. And so, um, yeah, it's a delicate situation. I can tell you that much. It, it is. I don't know, but we actually have to do a site visit there because, um, last year, I think somehow she didn't get permitted last year. So she currently doesn't have a permit. And so, but I think it was, I think her name just got dropped off the list, but she didn't also address it either. So, um, we were going to stop by and she said we could, but I haven't set anything up yet. But, um, you know, if she does stay there, she will need a permit. And, um, if there's a complaint, this is when the board would be involved with deciding she has a permit or she doesn't have a permit. So we won't be giving a permit out yet. Um, as of July 1 would be the first, you know, part of the next fiscal year, which would be when the perm, the new permit would be in effect. So. Is there a limit on goose like there's on chicken? Well, um, this permit is limited to three. It was two ducks and one goose. Right. A goose, one goose can, can be as annoying as a rooster. Yes. Right. No, I, I'm just saying that that's what the permit was. Yeah. The original permit was issued for. So if there's additional animals, they would have to go through that whole process all over again to notify butters because. You know, two ducks and one goose is a lot different than. I don't know. I don't even know the numbers. Five or six geese and one and three ducks or I don't know. Duck, duck, goose. Yes. Exactly. So, um, that's another situation that we're working on. And there's a, there's a few other ones, um, that are housing related. There was a nuisance one that we got that was, um, 50 made in lane. We addressed with the owner and, um, the yard was cleaned up. Um, that house is in pretty rough shape. Um, my understanding is that the, um, house will probably be sold in the near future, but probably will be vacant for to initially. So I think that there's, um, a lot been going on. We've been working. Um, you know, we have these properties that we. Check on periodically in town is there's a number of them that are what we call properties of concern that, you know, we meet and check on them periodically. So some of them need action, other ones, you know, we just check to make sure that they're secured and things like that. Um, so Tensure is one of those that, um, I haven't spoken to her, which, you know, that's why I was concerned about where are we with things because, you know, she was getting a lot of, um, I think, you know, interaction and, you know, people helping her at one point. And I don't know that is happening. So, okay, I think that's all I have for today, unless the board has any questions or anything. I need a motion to adjourn. I need a motion to adjourn. Second. Okay. Katherine Stift. Katie. Katie. Katie. Yes. Yeah. John of Vietnam. Yeah. John Stoyer. Yes. And Dr. Bobby. That's just so. You need to adjourn.
Bonnie? Yes. Hello, everyone. Are you able to hear me? Yes, we do. You have two minutes, please. Great. Um, my name is Bonnie Marion. Um, I live at 25 Hazelbrook Lane here in Wayland and, um, was just making a public comment to follow up on our letter and discussion from the last meeting, um, regarding the dust concerns and mitigation measures on, uh, Hazelbrook Lane and Lincoln Road. Um, so was interested in being a part of this agenda, but I understand it's full today. So just wanted to make, uh, request to be on the next month's agenda just to keep up to date on, um, progress that's being made on kind of long-term mitigation measures. I will say that there was some calcium chloride, um, application in the last two weeks or so, and that's been very effective. So, uh, we're grateful for that. Um, but interested to know, um, if you've had discussions with the Board of Public Works and, um, have any update on kind of what's been used historically, what the plan is for, for future. Um, and we are on the agenda for their meeting tomorrow night, so maybe things will be covered there, but, um, just wanted to, bring that up here in today's meeting as well. All right. I think everything about the actual concerns was already discussed at the last meeting, so don't have anything further to add to that. All right. Thank you very much. Thanks. Yep. Let's move on to Maura. Hi, I'm Maura Carter, public health nurse for the town of Wayland. So in front of you, you have, uh, the communicable disease report for May, uh, no surprises here really. One case of neurovirus, one of campylobacteriosis, three of enterovirus, one of homophilus influenzae, one of hepatitis B, three of human granulocytic anaplasmosis, and four of Lyme disease, with finally one of COVID-19. Um, so nothing of, uh, particular, uh, concern on this list. Any questions about the communicable disease? So community outreach highlights, uh, in our June town of Wayland newsletter, we released some summer safety tips, uh, uh, information about, uh, tick-borne illness prevention, uh, mosquito-borne illness prevention, uh, safety for extreme heat, uh, and sun protection, along with links to, uh, more safety information on helmets, windows, uh, car safety, water safety, pool safety, and rabies prevention. So the same information was also disseminated, uh, in the all-school newsletter for release in early, uh, to mid June. Um, you'll see a newsletter from the Children's Wild Preschool. This was, um, part of their newsletter released, you know, June 5th. And so there are two, um, pictures here of information that went out in that newsletter, including a letter, um, to the community from me and the, um, community health nurse, Kristen Cassata that works for the preschool, uh, all about, um, tick awareness and prevention of tick-borne illness in the, um, student staff and family caregivers of, uh, the students in the TCW program, as well as an immunization, uh, update. That same one that went out in some of the other school newsletters a little earlier in the year did come out, um, in this newsletter too. So that is included. We are in full swing with, uh, camp inspections. So I've been assisting with the medical portion, um, of those along with some of our regional, uh, partners. And our last update here is on school health services. So we have, um, the school nurse leader transition coming up very soon. So Heather Yates who served for the last several years, uh, will still remain as a community health nurse. Um, but, um, she is stepping down from her community, um, health nurse, nurse leader role and, uh, will, um, we will move into that role. Betsy Green, who is one of our community health nurses currently. So the two of them will be working together this summer to, um, help with that transition. And we are looking forward to supporting Betsy and, uh, and retaining Heather, um, in the program. She has served, uh, the program really, uh, well over the past several years and has made some, um, significant, uh, improvements to the program, um, and has brought the program far in terms of, uh, compliance with DPH and school health. So we thank her immensely for her years of service to the program. Now, um, the last day of school is scheduled for next week. Uh, 623 is the last day of school with 624 being the last day of school for school staff. Um, and so all of the community health nurses are busy completing any final reporting, end of year activities, but also, um, the preparation that starts at this time of year for next year. And then finally, I just wanted to report on, uh, the grants that serve the nursing program and the Wayland Public Schools, um, through, um, what is the Comprehensive School Health Services Grant and the Behavioral Health Expansion Award Grant, um, with highlights of spending, um, of that grant for this year, uh, being behavioral health supports for DM nursing support, um, support with SBIRT, which we've previously reported on, but it's a screening brief intervention and referral to treatment, um, for substance use screening in the schools, uh, healthy relationships programming, professional development for nurses, uh, and also, uh, behavioral health supplies to be used in, um, several sensory, cool down, um, type of spaces across the elementary schools in the district. And that is all I have for you. Any questions? Questions? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Mark. Thank you. Okay. Let's move on to, uh, 17th Sylvan Way owner, Vincent Shaw, Vito. Hold on up. Vito, can you hear us? Yeah, I'm here. All right. Uh, do you want us to start, uh, opening up or? Sure. Sure. Okay. Uh, so 17th Sylvan Way, um, this existing, uh, four bedroom house, uh, on the lot. Um, they had a failure. They had a old system in the backyard, old septic system. Uh, it's pretty close to a wetland. They have a wetland right in the backyard. Um, so the only spot we could locate that would be to the front of the house, uh, to keep that 75 foot separation, um, that the department requires. Um, it was very slow, uh, soils out there. So the sizing did get rather large. Uh, we had to design on a 60 minute, an inch rate, uh, which is essentially the slowest, um, that you can design on. So we did have limited space. Um, I don't know if you've seen the plans where we did have to kind of contain the whole system with a retaining wall, uh, to keep that within the front yard. Uh, we had to relocate the driveway to the side. Uh, and we had to ask for some relief to setbacks. Um, and the one that the key one, why we're here tonight is the setback to the neighboring property. Uh, typically want to be 10 feet from the sideline setback and 10 feet from the right of way line. We're seven and a half feet from each of those. Uh, and we do need that because if we do shift that over any more into the yard, um, we would be blocking the access to the garage. Uh, so you wouldn't really be able to pull, uh, conveniently into the garage, the retaining wall would stick out in front of it. Um, so we do need those just couple feet, uh, of relief to fit that system in. And we did make it as small as we could. We have a treatment system on a fast system, uh, which treats the effluent prior to discharge, uh, to a pretty high level. And we get a 50% sizing reduction with that. And even with that reduction, we still need, um, these couple of relief, uh, to the setback. Uh, to the setback to get this thing to fit in there. Um, I think that's really the only kind of issue, uh, they were working through. Um, I think that's all I have. I don't know if Darren, do you have any extra? Nope. Tough sight. They notify the butters via certified mail as required. They provided the slips to us. So that was not probably. Mm-hmm. No problems with any comments on that? I received my comments. Darren, do you have any questions? Wow. Um, first time I've seen it, I'm powered this way. Um, is there going to be stairs somehow to get to the front door? Cause there's retaining walls two and a half feet tall. Yup. Um, let me just pull my own plan up so I can take a look at it. Um, so we're still going to be able to get around that kind of side up near the garage. Um, we should be basically at grade when we get up to there. Um, so you'll be able to kind of walk to the side of the wall. If need be, we'll put a couple steps, but, um, you should be able to get around the wall, uh, to the front and with a rebuild the front walkway. Yeah. Um, there isn't really a lot else you can do there, is there? No, it's, it's a pretty tough one. Uh, we're kind of limited. Limited. I make a motion to approve the, uh, variance for the setback to property lines. We have a second. Second. Okay. Let's do roll call on that. Catherine Steph? Tate? Yes. Okay. Dr. Genevina? Yes. John Stewart? Yes. Francesco. That's approved. Thank you. Great. Thank you. Great. Thank you. All right. Yeah. It's gonna be weird. All right. Olivia. Oh, thank you. Bye. Hi. Have a good night. Thank you. Thank you. It's a crazy stuff. Let me check the elevator. A lot better than what they have. You know, they're upgraded quite a bit. Thanks for coming in. Yeah. It's, yeah. It's a beautiful yard in the back. So. Good evening, everyone. How are you? I'm doing well. How are we doing? Good. Thanks. Good. Awesome. I am super happy to be here. I'll be sharing my presentation. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'll be sharing my presentation over on the screen. If you want to take a look as I kind of talk us through the slides. But just as a reminder, my name is Olivia Dufour. I am the regional substance use prevention coordinator for the Great Meadows Public Health Collaborative. Many words. Serving the towns of Bedford, Carlisle, Concord, Lincoln, Sudbury, Wayland, and Weston. And my role primarily is to assist in the kind of coordination and spending of opioid abatement funds and also doing substance use prevention work within the towns, building programming that supports treatment and recovery. So kind of spreads the whole gamut. And so I've been working closely with the Wayland Opioid Task Force and also with the Wayland Board of Health and the Health Department to just kind of see what, you know, what needs there are and what kind of interesting data we can find. So again, as a refresher, we completed an assessment across all seven towns in the region to help determine some of our spending priorities for opioid settlement spending, particularly in regards to like individual priorities. These towns are going to get their own data, but also for us to really think about creative ways that we can work together to kind of maximize the funds across our region of seven towns, which generally tend to have similar resources as well as similar needs. This included town surveys that went out into each individual town. We also did regional focus groups and we did some key informant interviews. And so I am going to be presenting today on all of that good data. So we received 1,012 survey responses across the region, which I was very, very pleased about. We got a lot of really great data out of this survey, including Wayland had 133 responses with our goal was about 1% of the population. So we did a pretty good job capturing that across all of our towns. We asked folks what their connection to the community in Wayland was because we wanted to have kind of an expansive idea of what makes a community member who is in town, who's around people who live here. They volunteer here. They might be a faith member, a town employee, but really trying to get feedback from folks who are spending time in Wayland, regardless of what that specific connection to the community is. We also asked questions about folks connection to the opioid epidemic. So we only had about 44% of folks who said that they had absolutely no connection that they were willing to disclose to the opioid epidemic. About 15.8% of our respondents have lost a loved one to overdose and 17.3% are close to someone who is in active use treatment or recovery for opioid use disorder. So I think what we were trying to gather with this question was we're able to kind of stratify responses based on folks connection to the opioid epidemic. So that way we can look at, do people who have a close loved one think differently than people who have personal experience think differently than people who have no connection? Just so that way we can kind of think about, you know, where are the priorities for the people who really need them or really, really need services for this. And we're also able to kind of, I think, you know, some people have been a little bit shocked that we had, you know, around 50% in about each town who indicated no impact, which means that there's about 50% of people in each town who had some connection to the opioid epidemic in some way. So really trying to demonstrate that there is need in this region for these services. As far as age goes, we had a pretty good spread. I've got to say, which can sometimes be hard with survey work to capture, particularly those folks in the kind of 18 to 34. You can see we struggled a little bit there with that age group. But the 35 to 64 group, we actually did a really good job engaging with, which is exciting, as well as with our 65 enough population. So we're very pleased with that. When we looked at the response across gender, we had about, you know, three quarters of our respondents were female. And that is very, very common for public health research and for surveys in general. To see this kind of a gender split just means that there's more work to be done with engaging community members who are not women. And I think this is just kind of a, you know, as we think about maybe are we going to do this again at some point, like, what gifts to our approach should we make in order to engage the folks we were not able to reach with this initial survey? We also asked some questions about race and ethnicity. The majority of survey respondents were white and not Hispanic or Latino, as well as some folks who prefer not to even serve. But we did get a little, this is honestly a little bit more representation race and ethnicity wise than we saw in some of the other surveys. So again, more work to be done with trying to reach out into the communities that we're not hearing from as much going forward. We did have some interesting differences. I do want to caveat that the data we collected is not normally distributed. So we can't use certain statistical tests and models. And due to that low sample size, there were very many detectable significant differences between predictive variables. But I'm going to show some graphs to kind of demonstrate some of the work that we've been doing. And you'll also be able to, we're working on reports for each of our individual communities, but we currently have a report of the regional data. And the nice thing about the regional data set is it's so big. We were able to do a lot more in terms of statistical tests. So that report I think is really interesting. I will preface by saying it's like 38 pages long, so you're probably very busy and might not get to read all of it. But I recommend you take a peek. So the survey's main kind of goal was to help us to figure out which strategies related to opioid use disorder that are allowable under the funds we should be prioritizing. So strategy one is support for treatment and recovery. Strategy two is support for people in treatment and recovery. Strategy three is connection to care. Strategy four is harm reduction. Strategy five is criminal justice involved persons. Strategy six is pregnant and parenting women and families impacted by opioid use disorder. And strategy seven is prevention, education, and also thinking about anti-stigma work. So as you can see from our means, prevention came up as a real priority for folks. Connection to care came up. So things like early identification, having it be an easier process for people to get from having a substance use issue identified to actually receiving care, as well as thinking about some harm reduction strategies and our pregnant and parenting women and families who are impacted by this issue. So this is one of the graphs from the regional data. It's looking a little crazy up there. So bear with me. I'm going to try and explain it to the best of my ability. But basically what we did was we split. This is again, the regional data. So that's these ends are 765 people said that they did not have a family member, friend, or loved one who is actively using in treatment or in recovery. And so what you can see is that the median for both of these groups is the same at four. But what these little wavy kind of lines. These are called violin blocks because they look like the body of a violin. What these wavy lines are showing is kind of how many people responded to each to the question with each thing going from one, two, three, four, and five. So you can see that we have a little bit more variation in who responded across the board. And over here, we have a lot more answers proportionally of five, four, and three and less of two and one than we're seeing over here. So what we're learning from this plot is that people who have a family member, friend, or loved one who is actively using in treatment or in recovery. They're more likely to rank this strategy higher of harm reduction. Does that make sense? Have I lost you yet? Okay. Awesome. Sometimes, you know, sometimes when you're looking at these things, your eyes kind of glaze over. I do it myself. Because I'm more interested in the qualitative data. That's kind of more my bread and butter. I had a lot of help with the quantitative data. But the qualitative stuff is where I kind of really dig in. So we did focus groups with four priority areas. So we had a focus group with folks with lived and living experience. We had one with folks who had supported or lost a loved one or are currently supporting a loved one through their recovery or active addiction. We had one with folks who have a professional connection to the topic, but they don't necessarily work in our town. So doctors, substance use professionals, clinical social workers, things like that. And then I had a concerned citizen group, which was folks who signed up to do the focus group, but didn't necessarily have a super concrete connection to the topic. They were just really passionate to talk about it. And I definitely did not want to leave them out. And then on the right, you can see where our participants came from. So we had a pretty good spread across the region of where folks came from, which was very exciting. And then we also did 15 key informant interviews, which was one on one with me and someone. So we tried to kind of hit a lot of the folks in these towns who would have some type of knowledge about this topic area. So first responders, medical and treatment professionals who specifically serve the folks from this area, recovery professionals, community based organizations that work kind of alongside this topic. Councils on aging schools, faith leaders, so really trying to hit lots of different people who might be able to give us some insight into what this issue looks like in the region. And from our 15 key informant interviews, this was the breakdown town by town, as well as some interviews ended up covering either the entire region or the majority of the region for those positions like things like faith leaders and community based organizations in particular. Then what I was left with was 20 hours of recorded qualitative data that we transcribed and put into this app called deduce, which is a qualitative analysis software. And then we read through me and my partner in this, Kaylee read through all of these things and coded every quote and said, this is what we think that this person is talking about. And then we would check with each other to make sure we were on track. And it spit us out this kind of fun little diagram that the bigger the word, the more times we coded something with that firm. So as you can see, prevention came up a ton in our qualitative data. This one stood for effective strategy. So we spent a lot of time talking about some of the effective strategies that we could try and implement within the region. We spent a lot of time talking about stigma and the perception of stigma. We spent a lot of time thinking about folks perception of other substances, the direct impact of stigma. And so then we kind of had to like dig through all of this a little bit more and it gets a little more into it into the report. I don't want to super bore you because then we'll get into some of the actual quotes that folks gave us. Because along with the qualitative data from the interviews and focus groups, we also had open response questions on the survey, which also generated a ton of qualitative data. That was really great. And so this is specifically thinking about the focus groups and key informant interviews. But we just kind of basically ranked based on what the most talked about categories were. And as you can see, prevention really came to the top, which we were very much expecting treatment. And, you know, this is like direct support for treatment and then connection to care. Recovery is more like helping folks when they're leaving treatment, make sure that they have the support that they need. And we saw then harm reduction, criminal justice involved persons and supporting pregnant or parenting people. These are some of the open responses that I got from folks in Wayland. So we asked, how can we best address your concerns about opioid use? Someone who works in a profession that supports those who have been affected by opioid use disorder and has also lost a loved one to overdose said, reduce stigma by normalizing conversation and harm reduction strategies, provide access to evidence based educational resources, community resources and treatment and support services. Then someone who has a loved one who's in active use treatment or recovery said treating the depression and hopelessness that fuels the opioid use through connection and purpose, community jobs, etc. So I really liked what these were talking about, trying to think about how can we connect people with community? How can we start conversations around stigma? How can we make it so that people feel comfortable to come forward when they're struggling with this? When we asked about what people thought was missing, again, coming up with this open dialogue about opioid use and stigma. This is one that really stuck out in a lot of the open responses and key informant was this education for parents and caregivers on how actually to address their children's substance use or exposure to substances. In a lot of my anecdotal conversations, as well as my work through this survey, we've just been hearing a lot from parents who don't really feel like they feel well equipped to have conversations and start conversations with the young people. Not even just parents, caregivers, but the young people in their life about substances. What do you say? Are you worried you're going to put an idea in their head? Those kinds of conversations. So really thinking about how we could use this regional initiative to get some more resources out there for caregivers. And then also a lot of talk about just kind of lack of recovery resources. So specifically places like sober housing or recovery centers that are able to help people get back into the workforce, get clothes, shelter, transportation, food, all the things that you need in order to support your recovery. This is a long one, so I won't read the whole thing. But again, when asked, what do you feel is missing? Someone just really was talking about how the their perception of the culture is that there's, you know, not a lot of conversation around substance use and also mental health, which results in stigma and shame. And then they talked about some ways that we can maybe do better having some community based meetings. Invitations to one time talks might not be as effective, but we really do need to make sure that we're opening up this conversation. When asked about specific barriers, someone said where to find information for help, especially for those that survive under the Wayland poverty line. And then someone else said waiting for a space at treatment centers. And so, again, these are we very often in these open response questions, the responses were I don't know. I don't even know where I would find access to these resources. And so also really trying to get the word out there that there's a lot of resources in this area and that there's lots of work kind of already happening. And on top of that, you know, state resources, things like that. So how can we as health departments across the region do a better job at getting that information out into the public? And so that will be, I think, a big part of my role as we move forward after this assessment. And then we asked folks where they would seek information on resources. And somebody shouted out our co-response clinician, Lauren, who is wonderful. I've gotten to work with her on some projects and we have a lot of fun working together. She's really, really great. So I just love that somebody thought of her and shouted her out on the survey. But generally, folks were looking at either their personal doctor looking online. A lot of folks shouted out town resources like the health department website. And four people said that they wouldn't know where to seek resources for prevention, treatment and recovery. So again, just to summarize, we got a lot of responses about stigma, barriers. Cost was a big one as well. Opening up more community connection and events. There were quite a few responses that had some pretty severe misconceptions about substance use, particularly in the regional data. I can't think of one from the Wayland data off the top of my head. But I think that just kind of further proves this need for some anti-stigma work and really opening up this conversation and getting people accurate information about this issue. And then also talking about the places where people access their resources and information. So based on the data, our suggestions to the region coming out of this were to start, not finish, but start with the priorities of prevention and education, anti-stigma and harm reduction and treatment and recovery. Kind of having those be the three main topic areas that we jump ahead with. Take a minute and, you know, we'll do some evaluation on our programming, see how things are going. Bless you. And then we'll be able to kind of shift our priorities as time goes on. If we feel like something isn't working or we feel like something is a sort of a more present need. But these were kind of ideas to start. Bless you. And one of our things that we're working on right now is establishing the safe regional task force, which would help me to determine programming priorities, evaluate the success of our programs and remain flexible. Because a main thing that I really wanted to make sure as I came into this position that we were thinking about was how to have ongoing community collaboration. I think this survey is a really great jumping off point, but this data is already now eight months old. And by next year, it will be a year and a half old. And then it will be two and a half years old. Right. So how do we maintain relevance and how do we make sure that we're interfacing with the community rather than just being like, well, we put out a survey and kind of cleaning our hands in. So this task force will be primarily comprised of community members from the seven communities who have some type of lived and living experience with the opioid epidemic. And they'll really be working closely with me as well as with our health directors and our public health nurses to make sure that we are staying flexible and relevant and building programming that the community really wants to see. So again, we're currently working on some data briefs and one pagers for all of our seven towns. The regional report is, I believe, we're just waiting on like one last OK from everyone before we're saying that it's finished. But I'm happy to share it with Julia so she can send it to you if you're interested in reading more about what we've been working on. And our regional planning is underway. And I'm also here to assist Wayland and all of my communities. And this has been really great working with everyone. I have my contact info. So if at some point you're interested in learning more, you want to set up a chat and more than happy to do that. And that is everything from me talking. But if you have questions, I'd love to answer that. Where did you put the voting on? We put it out a bunch of places. It kind of depended on each town and what they felt like would work. We did a lot of work with local papers and community like blasts. I believe it went out into the town manager's newsletter. We had some at the library. I think the schools put it out through email. We put paper copies. We had it on the websites. Yeah. A lot of like my COAs and libraries put paper copies out for people who didn't feel comfortable taking it online. So then I would collect those paper copies and input them into the form myself. Blue clinics. Blue clinics. I did. I came to a bunch of blue clinics and I was like, We were trying to crack people down. Yeah. There was a lot of like work that went into that. And still, you know, it's so hard to get people. So that's just after like the sampling. So you got a pretty broad. Yeah. A lot of different general population. Yeah. I think so. So next time, I feel like I learned a lot of lessons about where it was more successful than other places. But for sure, I think getting out into the community based events is really huge. And getting in front of people and actually opening up that conversation and being like, Hey, I'm a real person and you should take this survey. Instead of like seeing it on a computer and being like, I'm going to click pass, right? You have that like one second of either they're going to engage or they're not. Whereas I can kind of be like, would you like to hear more about all of this cool stuff that we're thinking of doing? Yeah. And so that was really successful. Do you still have funds? Do you still have funds? Do you still have funds? Do you still have funds? Oh, so the opioid funds in Wayland are being used for the co-response clinician, Lauren. And so, you know, we are sort of a little bit different than the rest of the region because the rest of the region are seven towns that we have are using a portion of their opioid funds to, you know, fund Olivia's position. Although my understanding from the town manager is that going forward, you know, he's looking at carving out some funds from our settlement money to kick in towards Olivia's position going forward. So we definitely want to continue to have you part of our work that we do here as well as, you know, continue to have Lauren, you know, she's working full time. And so, you know, since we didn't have a co-response clinician, we, that was really a priority for the town. We, you know, knew how much money was coming in and took a long look at how it should be spent and what other towns have for, you know, response roles as opposed to prevention. So now we've got both and we've been working together, you know, Olivia's come to a lot of our meetings where we're talking about different plans, you know, in the community and, you know, funding strategies for going forward on other grants that, you know, we're hoping to get and potential events coming down the pike and things like that. Yeah, so I'm permitting or collaborating with Wayland Youth and Family Services on some youth programming this summer. So that's been really great. And part of that is funded by a grant that we received to think about arts-based projects that we could do with youth to talk about particularly around like peer pressure and what are they hearing from their peers and just open up that conversation and also giving them the tools to be advocates within their peer groups about you know, not trying substances if they can avoid it. And also advocating for, you know, whatever potential, there's always something going on at the Statehouse about whether it be around nicotine or alcohol or other substances that youth can be getting engaged with. So we're very excited about that as well. Are you done with the school nurses and the community help workers that work with the schools as well? A little bit. A little bit. We're building. We're building. Okay. Yeah. A lot of this role I have learned is relationship building and relationship management, figuring out who the key players are. So the Wayland Youth and Family Services does work with the schools so that would be a way in. Exactly. Exactly. Right. Exactly. You got to find the person who knows the person who knows the person. Jay Burkowski comes to our meetings, too. Right. So he's there so we can, you know, collaborate with them as well. The teachers of the school are, like, at the time, like, in the Wayland School system compared with where I'm in the school, they're so great about tying things that are important into their curriculums. Yeah. So I don't know the art teacher might be. Yeah. Some of the art teachers of the high schools. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, we're excited to kind of pilot the program this summer. And then we're going to put together an evaluation plan, see how it goes, and then hopefully open it up beyond that, maybe run sessions during the school year or continue it summer over summer. So that's something I'm really looking forward to working across. Yeah. Very exciting. And so up until, you know, recently where we had the CTCI funds, the contact tracing grant, where we were able to take some money from that grant and pay for Olivia's, our portion of the salary for Olivia's position. So, but that grant, as you know, will be ending on June 30th. So going forward, you know, we're looking at, hopefully, the plan is to carve some money out of our opioid settlement funds to put towards our portion of the salary. So, yeah. Anybody have any other questions? Good. Good job. Thanks, everyone. Thanks for coming in. I'm so happy to be here. I like doing this. Thanks for all your help. Thank you. So, have a wonderful rest of your evening. Thank you for having me. And again, reach out anytime. Thank you. Absolutely. Thanks. All right. Move on to Turkey Hill Village Condos. Request for extension of time. Complete a Suffolk repair on a failed system. So, we're a little early, and I don't know. Oh, is that someone coming up? I'm just looking to see if... One second. We could do some other things in the meantime. Let me just see. Yeah. We don't have anyone here yet. Yes, we do. Oh, we do. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't see you there, although you're clearly there. So, I guess we can go forward with the request. Although we're off schedule, so I don't know if we want to wait. We might want to wait until the scheduled time, which is 730. We do that. We can wait until 730. Just given the type of request, you know. It's a request for an extension. So, I think we should probably cover some of the miscellaneous things first. Just a suggestion. Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. So, I can give you a few updates. So, the catch basin treatments with VTI for mosquito larvae have been in process. They may even be completed by now, but those have been... The East Middlesex mosquito control project has been working on those. So, every year we treat our catch basins with... I believe it's a 90-day product. It's like a briquette. And it's activated with rain. So, hopefully there's some rain to activate the briquettes. They're spraying the catch basin top area with a white dot. So, that's how they're indicating that the area has been treated. We did have an update from the mosquito control project about their helicopter treatments, which covered 1,750 acres. And some of the comments from a recent meeting I attended for our projects, towns that are all involved that participate with the services that they provide. And, you know, some of the highlights were the severity of the drought that we're in. And, you know, there's a lot of question marks regarding what type of year this will be for mosquito-borne illness. Some of the mosquito species that are typically a problem during a summer where there's normal precipitation, they're, you know, not thriving. And since we've had such a cold winter, some of the species like Asian tiger, which is more of a warm weather mosquito, is not resistant to cold winters. The Tulex pipiens had high numbers last year with the higher numbers of West Nile virus. We don't know what will happen this season. There's another species, perturbans, that are more not in Wayland, thankfully, because we don't really have the types of breeding areas as much as some other communities do, like marshes and cattail areas or areas where those mosquitoes might be more prevalent. It seems like that species is increasing in numbers more than some of the other species. So those were just some of the comments that were made during one of the updates from the mosquito control project. They're trying to use some new types of trapping methods to get a better sample that represents all species as opposed to some of the more common species that are out there. So they're working on some experimental trapping devices as they were getting too many of those perturbants. So I'd have to check our reports from last year to see if we were receiving more perturbants or not. You know, so we'll see what we're getting this year. They're going to start doing surveillance and testing in mid June. And so we'll have more information, you know, once they start testing in Wayland. And I'll have an idea of, you know, how many locations they have. They usually have some gravid traps that are closer to the ground and they have light traps also. So we'll be doing a four day work week again this summer that will be starting the week of the 26th of June. And we'll have Mondays till 7 still. And then Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday will be till 530. And then Friday will be the day off. So that'll be the schedule until the end of August. Let's see. We are starting with our cyanobacteria and microcystin testing for this season at the town beach. We've already done two rounds. There was one round that was done because we were notified that there was a bloom happening at middle ponds of Lake Chichwit. We're at North pond where the town beaches. So we automatically started doing our testing and we did have some high readings at the very beginning of season, which was the end of May. I read they close the beach over there. They did. Yeah. So then we did another test the following week. So our numbers went from pretty high to super low that very quickly. So the weather change. What do you think? You know, it seems like something that happens. I don't know for sure, but it's a different type of an algae that I don't think we saw as much of last year. So it's it's hard to know exactly. But it could be related to, you know, the air temperature, water temperature. You know, I thought it would be different this year because, you know, with the cold temperatures we had over the winter and a lot of the algae, you know, may be affected at the bottom of the lake. So, you know, the deeper it freezes. But I don't know that, you know, I was asking questions about that at a meeting that I went to for some training and they weren't really sure they didn't really want to commit to responding how the season will go. So it's hard to know. But we are doing testing this week. We sent a sample into the lab for the algae counts, and then we do our own rapid strip test for microcystin toxins. So Ann Lurie, who's our regional health agent, she'll be doing that rapid strip test for the microcystins and the lab handles the other part of the testing. So we are underway, you know, with our visual observation, you know, we go down to the beach, we do a visual observation, we take a few pictures, we take the samples, send them off to the lab. Also for E. coli, which is required by the state to keep the beach open, we have to test for E. coli every week. So, you know, the water has been looking really good, but now it's you know, with the hot weather, it's hard to say. You know, it was also with a lot of foul water fowl that, you know, kind of gather sometimes in different parts of the lakes. So it depends how all those behaviors and activities are going, but we'll have the data to help us make decisions as opposed to just the visual observation, because I did see that the state. The state, although I think they're still, are they, are they still closed? I think they are still closed. So they have to have two consecutive weeks of low numbers to be able to reopen and the numbers they had last week were very low. I don't know what they were when they closed the beach because they don't do testing. It was just visual. They just do visual. So I don't know. It would be interesting to see if they could start, you know, doing a sample every now and then. But that's why they're so interested in our information. They're always reaching out to me and asking, Oh, how did your report come out? What were the numbers? And, you know, so, which I'm happy to share with, but. It's better when it's dry or not always. Well, there's less runoff, so I'm sure that helps. That definitely is an impact because, you know, we've seen some problems with runoff with E. coli. Yeah. And also with, you know, some of the just different fertilizers and things running off of people's property is getting into the lake. If there's heavy, heavy rain that can really impact the algae blooms. You know, there might be a bloom resulting from that. And if the water temperature starts going up, those things can happen pretty quickly. So, but we're keeping an eye on it with all those things. Unfortunately, Jenna Chase has resigned. She was our part time assistant and she is moving on, unfortunately, but we'll be posting the job after June 30th. So we'll start doing the search and hopefully we'll be able to find someone pretty quickly. Let's see. We had an inquiry from the select board member Tom Fay regarding ticks and different tick-borne illnesses as well as deer population management. And so, you know, I did a little research on we are actually doing some work on tick education with our regional counterparts. So Kaylee Watson, who is our regional coordinator, who basically oversees the regional staff that we have, which Olivia is part of that staff. I don't know if she's working on ticks. I think Ann is. So I think they'll be working together on that. But there's plans for some educational programs and, you know, bring people in to hear experts speak about, you know, ticks and mosquitoes and tick-borne illnesses, prevention. You know, some tips on, you know, some basic things that people can do to prevent, you know, getting a tick attached that could potentially, you know, transmit some of these illness, terrible illnesses that people are getting. And there was an article that I shared. I don't know if anyone had a chance to read it. No red meat, no dairy, no end in sight about Martha's Vineyard and alpha-gal syndrome. Very disturbing to read how prevalent that is in Martha's Vineyard. And I did a little research on, you know, just how things are handled in certain, you know, depending on who owns the land determines basically what potential hunting laws are overarching in those properties. So in Wayland, we have, you know, U.S. fisheries and wildlife, which is owned by the federal government that has had expansion from the Trump administration in hunting. And recently also with Governor Healy, who's expanding to Sundays to allow hunting as well. And there's a good part, there's a lot of areas in Wayland that are owned by the federal government where there's wetlands, you know, and so I'm working on trying to get a little information on, you know, how much land that covers versus conservation and Sudbury Valley trustees. Sudbury Valley trustees also allows hunting. They issue permits for hunting. Conservation in Wayland does not. And I did talk to Linda a little bit about that. She had some knowledge that she was sharing, you know, about the coyote population, which has gone way up because they've been, you know, noted to have more packs and they're hunting deer in packs because of the population. But that is definitely a factor that I think their population, the coyote population increased because a lot of the deer, I think, couldn't handle the cold over the winter. And so they were feeding on the deer. We just talked a little bit about that. Well, I got a lot of rabbits this year and I don't know why, but the coyotes aren't taking care of them. There are a lot of rabbits eating my perennials. Do you notice there's a lot? Oh yeah, even down the Cape, there's tons of them. So, you know, those, those are just a few things that we talked about. Conservation does have a lot of people that hike their properties in Wayland. It's very busy. I just want to ask that because, like, I think, like, I would need education on how to protect myself and my dogs. Yeah. From, like, people hunting. Like, my son used to take my dogs, he worked in the forestry, and he put a special orange jacket for the dog. Yeah. So people need to know those type of things. Well, currently, there's no hunting allowed on conservation properties in Wayland. Aren't the trustees, don't people walk on that? Sudbury Valley trustees is a different organization, and they do allow hunting by permit. But they allow walking too, right? Yes. So that, you know, I don't know what their rules are for, you know, how they handle their permits. But, yes, they do allow it. Conservation does not. They are, you know, Linda at least is not interested in allowing hunting on conservation land. She thinks there's enough hunting that goes on the large amount of federal land that we have in Wayland. So, you know, she, that would be the channel to, you know, if someone was interested in opening up hunting on conservation land, it would be through the commission. So, you know, but these are just some things, you know, I was interested in more of the educational component. And I'm asking about, you know, potentially our regional counterparts that are working on some of these things. And they've been doing a lot. There was a whole brochure that was put together recently that I just put out on the website. I don't have one with me, but I can share it with you all. It's great. Also. Who controls hunting licenses in Wayland? Who do you apply to for hunting? So I don't know how you. State license, I believe. It's a state. Is it a state license? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But if it was a town land, I think you'd have to go through the town as well. I don't think they, I think they either allow it or don't allow it. Yeah. Okay. I don't know how it's handled, but some towns allow bow hunting. And so. They could go like, there's a bunch of places. I think it might fall in the same category as a fishing license. Okay. Possibly. Maybe. I mean, we talked a little bit about bow hunting because they do allow bow hunting and Weston. And Linda's perspective on that was, you know, I'm not that familiar with bow hunting, but, you know, she thinks that a lot of people that are bow hunting don't necessarily kill the animal. It's injured and it ends up, you know, running off because, you know, there's a lot of skill involved with, you know, shooting the arrow correctly. And so, you know, there's just a lot of information out there that, you know, I'm gathering together to provide some feedback to Tom Faye, who was very interested in this. But one of the things that I thought would be helpful is to have fresh signs put up regarding tick borne diseases that potentially could be put on trails in town, because we've done that before. But people take them down, believe it or not, they, you know, do graffiti on them, they remove them. So, you know, they just need to be updated every once in a while. So that's something I'm looking into because we had done that a while back. But it should be refreshed because it's something as a reminder, you know, when you're walking into a trail, you know, so some of the things to be aware of. Yeah, for girl, situation has made people a lot more. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, you know, some of the information that I was able to gather regarding, you know, the federal government expanding hunting, some of the experiences like on Martha's Vineyard, how they're dealing with this whole alpha gall syndrome. That was that was an excellent article. You can link it maybe to this website. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, it was very good. So tick prevention, I think, is really important. So that's, you know, one of the things that we really want to hone in on. And we have well, we have a new website, so I've been trying to learn how to use it. It's not that hard, but it just takes time to sit down and, you know, be able to go through. So I'm working on getting our website updated with more stuff. Are there any, like, state, like, Department of Public Health at the state level in the tick treatments that they would recommend? Because there's so many out there, like, they're always analyzing for tick treatments for your backyard and, like, you don't know what's in them. Are they effective? Are they safe for your pets? And they'll say yes, yes to everything. Well, yeah. You can put them on the next day after it dries up, but it's still there. I'm hoping that some of the educational sessions that we have with some of these subject matter experts can talk to those things, because I have the same questions from what I gather. You know, some of these oils, heavy rain, they're gone the next day. You know, you wasted your money, you know, I mean, and so I don't know. I think a lot of the landscaping could be something that is, and I have some brochures that were done a few years back on how to landscape your yard to help prevent ticks, you know, as far as keeping the lawn trimmed and, you know, preventing brush from, you know, or maybe avoiding getting into brush if you're not, you know, wanting that in your yard. Well, you keep the deer out. Yeah. That's the goal. Yeah. If there's no deer in there, you're not getting any. That's another thing. But there's also mice, you know, mice and other mammals also carry ticks. Yep. Let's get some tick tubes. There's a lot of different things that could be done. Tick tubes for the mice. Yeah. So what does it do? You put basically a toilet paper roll and you put cotton in it with soaked in pyrethrin that kills the tick and then the mice take it back and then build their nest out of it. And then all the ticks on the mice die. So it ends the cycle. Oh. Hmm. What about, what about. I've heard of that. What about your dog? It's not. It's not toxic. They spray it on horses and stuff. It's not. It's not toxic. Doesn't kill the mice. Absolutely. Well, I mean, I would say if people were using permethrin, they should use it based on the label, the instructions on the label, you know, because it's something that is important to use properly. You know, we tell people if they want to use pretreated clothing, that's okay. As far as using it to treat, you know, other clothing items or things like that. I don't think I would recommend it, but to do tick tubes, that's another whole, I mean, I've heard of that before, you know, when I've heard of people taking an initiative to do tick tubes. I don't know much about it. I've just heard. I also think not having plants that deer want to come in your yard for is helpful. Yeah. Right. True. They're in there munching on your costas. That's. Yeah. You know the costas anyway. And you're encouraging them to come in. That's very true. So, yeah, I would say. Did we have the kits given out last year? We, we still have some left. Yeah. Tick removal kits. We have. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. So. Anyway, then we, so we're at. Little past our time and we've got. Betty on the screen. So whenever she comes back from wherever she went, there she is. Okay. So that's for the Turkey Hill. 90 day extension for their new septic repair. Betty, you're on, you're on. Yeah, there you are. Sorry about that. No problem. Well, we are asking for an extension beyond the June 21st deadline that we have to repair a septic system behind three of our condos. And we hired, we have a management company. We hired them, their project department to take this on and do the work that needed to be done. They started out really well and then they fell apart. Um, we didn't hear from them for months, even though we were contacting them regularly. They lost a staff member and there was a lot of aggravation, uh, because we want to get this done. Finally, and it wasn't until last month at the end of the month, we heard that they finally got one bid for the project. We have a policy, um, that, you know, anything over $10,000 has to have a multiple, uh, bids. And this project is about $180,000. They indicated that they, um, you know, it was hard to get other people that aren't already on the list in Whalen. I mean, they just made a lot of excuses. And they finally hired somebody new. And now, as of last week, we have a second bid. Also about $180,000. Our hope is the board has a meeting later this month. Um, our plan is to decide which vendor and go forward with it. And I chair the board, by the way. That's why I'm on here. So that is our request. Yeah. So there's a design that was approved by the health department. Darren approved it on February 3rd of 2026. So, um, you know, they did their work and they had the design done. So, um, I mean, we feel like we don't see a reason why we wouldn't give them more time. We know that they've been struggling with a few things and one of them is getting these bids. So, of course, is it a public health hazard in the failure? Is it breaking out or anything? No. Okay. Not to my knowledge. No. Yeah. That is not the case. Yep. There's no questions, uh, so we need a motion, please. Make a motion to grant an extension for time to complete a subject repair and a failed system at Turkey Village Condo. I second. Okay. Roll call. Captain Steph? Katie? Yes. John Stewart? Yes. John Stewart? Yes. Dr. Genevina? Dr. Bob and Francesco. That's approved. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. We'll look forward to hearing, um, you know, what's the latest update once you have more, um, info on the bids and the installer and all that, so. Well, hopefully, uh, we will have that in place soon so this can get started already. Great. Yep. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. You're welcome. I don't know. I think we have. Carolyn? Yes. Are you in the wheel? I am. Nice to meet you. You too. Sure. Come on off. Oh, thank you. I should steal this chair. Of course not. I was just thinking that. Better for my back. Careful of the cords there. Got it. Thanks. What does the closed hearing mean? It just means that it's closed from opening it up and then closing it for the for the, for the actual, um, agenda. Okay. John, are you, you still want to keep looking at that? No, I mean, we can, if you still. No, I can look at it. We've already. Yeah. I just curious. Yeah. All right. Hello. Hey, so we're moving on to. Yep. One 57 bucks in driving. Yes. Yes. Press for more time to complete repairs. Yes. Okay. So, um, I'm Carolyn Langer. I'm the, um, owner of the property. Actually it's the LLC is the owner. Technically I'm the manager, but, um, so, um, I live at 71 bucks skin drive. So just down the road. And, uh, I bought one 57 bucks skin drive a number of years ago. Uh, eventually for my daughter, when she gets married and lives there. Uh, I mentioned that because, um, I've always taken very good care of the property. Uh, you know, especially, uh, I don't know if you're familiar with bucks skin drive. It's in Western estates, beautiful street. Um, so of course I'm always going to take good care of the property and, uh, you know, maintain the property value, uh, especially because someday my daughter is going to live there. And by the way, um, I would be remiss if I didn't mention also that I'm a physician on board certified in occupational medicine. So I, you know, have a good understanding of the, um, health and environmental issues. And, um, so I'm here tonight to request an extension on the, um, repairs to one 57 bucks can drive. Um, as I mentioned in my letter a week ago, and, um, you probably didn't have a chance to see my new letter. Cause I had a crazy day at work and just, uh, I just sent it like a couple hours ago. So you'd probably. Yeah. So, um, you, yeah, just, it's just, it's just an update. I can just summarize for you. So, um, Julia suggested that I just provide you with a summary from the mold inspector and the, um, um, remediation companies. So, um, so we have, um, so this house sustained some water damage, like many houses in the, um, you know, bad blizzards. We had in January and February had, uh, an ice dam. It caused some water leak into the wall, the, between the exterior of the house and the, uh, uh, son's bedroom on the second floor. And then also into the right bay of the garage. So, um, I did call Sprague roofing to scrape off the snow and then brought in ServPro to do remediation. Um, ServPro, uh, brought in, um, dryers and, um, they also put heaters in the garage. They took down the, uh, drywall in the son's room. Um, they also, um, uh, put, um, an antimicrobial over the water damage area where there was some black staining in the cavity, um, behind where the drywall was removed in the son's room as well as well as in the, um, garage. Um, they, um, also, um, removed a portion of the, um, um, wall in the garage area and part of the ceiling area. Um, and so, um, the, um, the tenant, um, got a little bit, um, um, um, hysterical, I guess. You know, she told me she had a friend who lived in an apartment in Waltham who, um, had bad mold exposure and, um, eventually developed health problems. And, uh, so she really just kind of freaked out. Um, uh, and she, uh, refused to allow the repair work to go on. She brought in her own mold inspector who had questionable techniques. My insurance company brought in their mold inspector who's a certified industrial hygienist. He found no evidence of any sort of, um, um, airborne, um, um, mold exposure. Uh, no elevated, uh, levels. Um, in addition, um, it, because they refused to allow ServPro to come back, I hired another company called Restopro. They're also a mediation, uh, remediation company. They came in recently. They checked for moisture levels, um, both the mold inspector and Restopros, which, um, has IICRC, um, accreditation certification. Uh, neither one of them found any, um, elevated moisture levels, um, including, um, in the wood, in the wall cavity, um, behind where the drywall was removed from the kid's bedroom. Um, and the conclusion of both was that there are no, um, elevated airborne spore, uh, levels anywhere in the house, including in the areas that were affected by the water damage. And, um, uh, Restopros, uh, the remediation company also concluded that based on his inspection, uh, uh, and the mold testing results, um, um, and the mold testing results, there were, uh, no indications of elevated airborne mold spore levels, um, anywhere in the house, including emanating from that cavity behind the drywall in the toddlers in the son's room where, uh, they sustained some water damage. So, he concluded that the conditions observed during his inspection, uh, do not indicate a need for, uh, additional remediation based on the areas he evaluated, which were the two water-damaged areas, as well as the husband's office, which was not impacted by the water damage, but it's adjacent to the son's room and, uh, felt that the, uh, repair work could move forward. Um, incidentally, um, I do have, have had for a while, um, all the requisite contractors lined up. I've already paid sizable deposits to start the work. Uh, the, the tenant has been very difficult. She's refused entry on May 21st. An electrician came in to change out the outlet in the son's room and, uh, uh, redo some of the wiring there as well as in the garage. They refused entry. I then had to engage a lawyer who now has to send a demand letter delivered by hand by a constable or, uh, certified mail return receipt if we want our contractors to gain entry to the house. So she's been very, very challenging to deal with. Um, in fact, recently she sent me an email saying she wants 48 hours notice, even though the lease says 24 hours notice for me or a contractor to come onto the premises. So that has led to significant, uh, delays because now I have to line up a contractor probably 60 to 72 hours in advance in order to allow time for the constable to give the 24 to 48 hours notice. We haven't determined which is actually required yet, but some advance notice. So that's caused significant delays. Um, but, um, um, uh, we are using a company called build back for the repair and reconstruction. They estimate that, um, including time to allow for inspection because, um, they said that they have to have the town inspect for the, the, the electrical inspection, the framing inspection, the insulation inspection, the final electrical inspection, and the final inspection. So when you include that plus the time for all the repairs, they're estimating about one to one and a half months to complete their repairs. Uh, that's for all the interior work, mostly in the, uh, son's bedroom and in the garage. Another contractor called Sprague Exteriors, uh, estimates they'll need about one to two weeks to repair, um, the exterior. So this includes applying vinyl siding, uh, to the south side of the house, which had some, um, um, chipping of the paint from the, uh, rough winter, uh, repairing and wrapping window trim. Uh, they're also going to, uh, do some other miscellaneous repairs. They have to repair a fascia and rake and bondo sand and paint. So altogether for all of that, uh, about one to two weeks, uh, depending on weather, since that's all outdoor work inspections. And then of course, uh, access by the tenant. Um, and then Julia also wanted me to address what we're going to do to prevent future ice stamps. So, uh, the contractor is, uh, going to be installing soffit vents in the attic. And he's doing that in order to slow down the melting of the snow on the roof, which then would, um, reduce the blockage of ice at the edge. And even though he said that that would be sufficient to prevent future ice stamps, I am out of an abundance of caution. Also going to be installing, um, heating cables on the roof. Smart. Yeah. And if you know a good electrician, I do have one that was recommended, but if you know somebody even better. Um, and then, uh, there was concern that the, uh, back steps, there are two steps leading from the deck in the back, uh, down to the ground. It has one handrail. It was suggested that we install a second handrail. And then there are a couple of planks in the deck that, um, apparently are deteriorating or, uh, need some more nails banged into them. So we do have Phil Sandock. I don't know if you know Phil. He's a local whaling guy. He's a, uh, carpenter and a contractor. He said it should take him about three to five days, depending on weather. So, um, all in all, um, if we can get everything done, uh, in terms of getting the inspections done, getting access to the premises, we estimate it should take about one to one and a half months to finish up the repairs. I think we can only provide a one month extension by, by the code. Ah, okay. We can revisit it again. Um, that's my understanding. I didn't realize that it was going to be over a month. So, well, um, that's what build back said only because they're building in. So they built in a week to get the electrical inspection done. They built in three to five days for the framing inspection. So if you have connections, uh, they built in, uh, three to five days for the final electrical inspection and three to five days for the final final inspection. So I see season. Yeah. So, um, yeah, so I think they're just trying to, um, build in some cushion in case the inspections take a while to get done. Okay. Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Uh, I make a motion to, um, grant the extension for repairs for the month. That's allowed. And, um, that's 157 bucks. Do we have a second? Second. Okay. Let's do roll call. Catherine Stiff? Yes. John storm. Yes. Dr. Genevieve enough. Dr. Bathy Francesco. It's approved. All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Thanks for coming in. Thank you. I'll probably give you a call tomorrow. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Good luck. Thank you. And thank you for your service. You all work long days. So it's nice. You take the time to do this. Thank you. Good. We have, um, another, uh, complaint that I wanted to mention. Sure. Uh, you know, it's funny cause when I, first time I said to the town manager, you know, we're getting a lot of complaints. It's like, people are complaining about you. And I'm like, no, they're complaining to me. This is how it is. You know, so we get. Don't tell them about the complaints about you. If they, you would know if they were complaining about me. Oh, I know her. So, um, anyway, uh, we have a person who's complaining about the gun club, broadened gun club. You may or may not have. Is this who you know? No, it's, it's a neighbor though. What's her name? Oh, um, Parish. No, no, no. The one that you've, um, that's in the same neighborhood that the house there was having some issues. Uh, you talking about the piece? The, the. You drove her here. Because. Oh, yes. You know her? No. I know. I know somebody that complained about you. I'm sorry. I'm like, there's so many different. See? There's so many. Oh, uh, an update on 10. Sure. I'll jump around a little bit. Um, I think, you know, for financial reasons, possibly, you know, due to the end of the year, they're, they're, um, planning we're moving forward with that situation through town council. That's really all I can say in a public meeting. But, um, I believe that, you know, after June 30th, things will move forward. Um, so I have not spoken to, um, the owner of 10 shore in quite a while. So, um, the back to the gun rod and gun club, um, complaint. Um, complaint from, uh, Trisha. Has Shriek. Pass. Rica. From, um, 51 river view. Did you all have a chance to read this? Okay. So, um, she is a physician and she is, um, recording the, um, decibels of the gun fire from the gun club and, um, is very concerned about, you know, her children who can't play in the yard. Um, you know, she's aware that back in, um, she's right adjacent to the gun club. So her house is very close to their property. Uh, back in 2013, the board of health responded to a complaint about the gun club, that gun clubs are exempt from DEP noise regulations. Um, she wants to address that directly. I have not had a chance to look into her, um, you know, thought process regarding, um, you know, chapter 269, section 12 E. Um, although I do know that gun clubs, um, the, the laws have not changed since that time. I have recently spoken to Michelle then Delmar from mass DEP on a different topic, um, that we'll talk about next time and mentioned this to her as well. And, you know, she said that that was still the same. Nothing has changed, um, regarding gun clubs being exempt from DEP noise regulations. So I don't know if anyone else has different thoughts, um, regarding this complaint. Um, I just wanted to make sure I brought it up, you know, to, um, the board was addressed to, um, the board and myself. I haven't spoken to, um, the resident yet. I did reply and, you know, acknowledged the receipt. How long is she living there? Um. I don't remember reading that. What's the address? 51 Riverview Circle. 22. Okay. So four years. It's a difficult one. Yeah. So. Is she the only house in proximity to it? No, there's other, there's a whole neighborhood near there. I mean, they're probably the closest, I think, from, um, what I gather. Mm-hmm. Because when I go visit Penn Shore, I have to go around and I sort of take a loop to check out, you know, just see what's going on in the neighborhood. Check out the neighborhood. Yes. Neighborly clutch. Right. So. Has the gun club changed at all in the last four years? I mean, that's a good question. I don't know. I mean, we don't have any connection to, like, correspond with them. It hasn't changed as far as I've been in there before. Yeah. I mean, right next to a gun club, I guess. That is true. It was there. It was there. Yeah. There were all the complaints. Okay. I mean, I'm not aware of anything changing over there, but, you know, I can try to find out. Maybe the front office would know if there was any change, you know, or the someone, maybe the police department would know. Yeah. I could ask. It would know. Find out if there's any, like, ranges that were moved or anything like that. Do they have firing windows? Do they have the gun club is indoors or do they have outdoor? Outdoor. I thought they had outdoor. They're outdoor. They're outdoor as well. Yeah. I've never been over there, so I don't know. But. But that's very scary. Right. So did they move, you know, shift things around? I doubt it. Yeah. Probably not. Yeah. Let me just see.
Ray Willis of. Well, I'm sorry. This was from the town engineer to Ray Willis regarding the Oxbow. I think Greece is situation with their septic system and the concerns for the or not septic. Well, it is a septic system, but it, you know, is connected to town sewer. So there was some correspondence. This goes back a while, but recently I was looking at it and I don't think I had shared it, but you know, it was regarding performance concerns and follow up, you know, regarding checking into the samples, how they were done and you know that they were going to be doing some sampling on the town side. And they're, you know, saying that without treat without pretreatment conditions conditions will continue to degrade performance of the system and reduce the useful light of the town infrastructure. This represents a town's sole opportunity to allow additional sampling. And so, you know, they were very concerned about the, I think what was coming out, you know, the, the effluent and the grease levels. And so I think I'll be following up on this because this is just sort of some back and forth emails. But I just figured I would mention that there was still dialogue going on regarding that problem. And I know there were, there was a problem all over at Baldwin Pond wastewater, or not wastewater, water treatment facility that in May, May 13th, that they requested to have emergency use of MWRA water. And until such repair could be made, which I'm not sure if that has happened yet or not, but there was some kind of air system failure. Potentially it could have been resolved by now, but I'm not really sure. It was around the middle of May, but we were notified formally through a mass DEP letter. I just figured I would mention that because they have to make a formal request to have, you know, emergency use of water and have minutes. We'll be tabling the tobacco regulations until the next, or not July, but August. Okay. Everybody read the minutes. Okay. November 17th, 2025. Do we have a motion to approve? Make a motion to approve the minutes from November 17th, 2025. We have a second. Second. Okay. Let's do a roll call. Catherine. Approve. Okay. Okay. Dr. Genevieve Annette. Yes. John Stoyer. Yes. And Dr. Bob Defrancesco. Those are approved. Let's move on to December 15th, 2025. I'll make a motion to approve the minutes for the medical meeting, but I'll have to approve the 25th. Second. Okay. Roll call. Catherine Stipp. Yes. Yes. Dr. Genevieve Annette. Yes. Dr. Stoyer. Yes. Dr. Bob Defrancesco. That's approved. Thank you. A couple things. Patty's going to be going on vacation for a couple of weeks, so it's going to be a little busy because Jenna's last day is Patty's first day of vacation. So. Oh. So Darren will be answering the phone. We'll all be, I think, covering different roles in the office. So, and then, you know, he's got some physical therapy coming up, so it might be a little bit crazy with inspections field work. We're doing a lot of permitting right now with camps. We've got stacks of binders that have been submitted that we're all currently in the process of reviewing for different summer camps in Wayland. And then, also, I did all the, well, I did most of the inspections for pools. We also had some help with this camp reviews from Ann Lurie, our regional inspector, and from Maureen Lee, no relation, who is doing contract work for our region. So that was a huge help to have camp because having everything at once gets very crazy, especially where we started doing the sampling at the beach and, you know, all that. So it's been very busy getting our steps in for sure. And so while Patty's out, it's going to be a little thin, but we have Becky, who is one of our tax work off folks who comes in to help cover phones and things like that. So we'll just do the best that we can. And we have some appointments that I think you've got. So we just have to go through them and, you know, do a vote, I think. I think you could just do all of them together. Yeah. That might be easier. All right. So as far as the appointments go. So somebody want to make a motion to approve all the appointments here. I make a motion to approve appointments to the board of Pelton Wayland, Julia and Younghans, Health Director and Health Inspector, Dara McCondy, Anna and Lori Health Agents, Deb Spurzman, Food Inspector, Dara Barivola, Tila, Solinda, Tobacco Control Agents, Jennifer Condon, and Brenda on our board. Animal Inspectors, Lisa Raftery, you're the first meeting. Do we have a second? A second. Okay. We'll call Catherine Stiff. Approved. Yes. Dr. Jadavino. Approved. John Stoy. Approved. And Dr. Babishnan. Chief Francesco. Approved. Excellent. So I did ask Lisa Raftery to come in and or give us, you know, some information on some of the work that she's been doing with the Youth Advisory Committee. Usually she either comes in or provides an update of some kind. So she might be coming maybe at one of our next board meetings. She's been on the Advisory Committee for a number of years now. So I'm interested to hear, you know, some of the work they're doing. Because we do work with Jay Berhuski, who is on our opioid settlement group, you know, that we meet once, usually once a month we meet, that also Olivia attends. So, you know, I'm just nice to hear from some of the appointments folks that the board formally appoints as well. Um, and those. Oh, yes. Also, um, we've had a, um, complaint about the geese. I wanted to mention, although I did, um, get in touch with the, um, with Sandra. And she said that she's moving and she's moving all her geese as well. So I'll be, um, in touch with her soon to find out, um, if that's happening or when that's happening. She said within the next couple of weeks. Um, although I think, you know, there's quite a bit of, I think there's quite a few more animals being kept there. Well, more than three. So we're gonna follow up on that. Mm-hmm. And especially where, you know, in a residential neighborhood, it's not like a land, you know, a farm property. And it's summertime. It's. It's hot. It could be four months or five months. Right. Exactly. So I'm gonna look into that a little more, um, to, uh, do an investigation. And I'll get back to that next time. Is that feeding time noise or is that, like, constant noise, do you think? I think it's, um, it's described to me to be pretty often. Well, they may be responding to a call. Yeah. So they, a human will call and the geese will respond or geese to geese or whatever. That's true. And they do respond because they're pets, you know? So there's that connection with, you know, the, um, family. And so, um, yeah, it's a delicate situation. I can tell you that much. It, it is. I don't know, but we actually have to do a site visit there because, um, last year, I think somehow she didn't get permitted last year. So she currently doesn't have a permit. And so, but I think it was, I think her name just got dropped off the list, but she didn't also address it either. So, um, we were going to stop by and she said we could, but I haven't set anything up yet. But, um, you know, if she does stay there, she will need a permit. And, um, if there's a complaint, this is when the board would be involved with deciding she has a permit or she doesn't have a permit. So we won't be giving a permit out yet. Um, as of July 1 would be the first, you know, part of the next fiscal year, which would be when the perm, the new permit would be in effect. So. Is there a limit on goose like there's on chicken? Well, um, this permit is limited to three. It was two ducks and one goose. Right. A goose, one goose can, can be as annoying as a rooster. Yes. Right. No, I, I'm just saying that that's what the permit was. Yeah. The original permit was issued for. So if there's additional animals, they would have to go through that whole process all over again to notify butters because. You know, two ducks and one goose is a lot different than. I don't know. I don't even know the numbers. Five or six geese and one and three ducks or I don't know. Duck, duck, goose. Yes. Exactly. So, um, that's another situation that we're working on. And there's a, there's a few other ones, um, that are housing related. There was a nuisance one that we got that was, um, 50 made in lane. We addressed with the owner and, um, the yard was cleaned up. Um, that house is in pretty rough shape. Um, my understanding is that the, um, house will probably be sold in the near future, but probably will be vacant for to initially. So I think that there's, um, a lot been going on. We've been working. Um, you know, we have these properties that we. Check on periodically in town is there's a number of them that are what we call properties of concern that, you know, we meet and check on them periodically. So some of them need action, other ones, you know, we just check to make sure that they're secured and things like that. Um, so Tensure is one of those that, um, I haven't spoken to her, which, you know, that's why I was concerned about where are we with things because, you know, she was getting a lot of, um, I think, you know, interaction and, you know, people helping her at one point. And I don't know that is happening. So, okay, I think that's all I have for today, unless the board has any questions or anything. I need a motion to adjourn. I need a motion to adjourn. Second. Okay. Katherine Stift. Katie. Katie. Katie. Yes. Yeah. John of Vietnam. Yeah. John Stoyer. Yes. And Dr. Bobby. That's just so. You need to adjourn.
