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September 16, 2025 - Recreation Commission

 
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Unknown: Hey. let's call this meeting Recreation Commission to order Tuesday. September 16. 2025 and 20 am. It's a hybrid Zoom meeting and the in person in his main development. Wayland. town building Road. Wayland. Massachusetts. the three. the hybrid viewer and participate in hydro mean at
reserve. the chapter two. with the acts of 2025 this meeting
will be conducted in persons. and the quote is going to applicable law. This means even recorded which we made. as well cam as soon after meeting. as is travel required by law or allowed by the chair person's wishing to provide public comment or otherwise participate in a meeting. to do so by in person tenants. or by accessing a meeting remotely as noted request. public comments. two minutes per person. these times. approximately. items will not be discussed. and you are listed for a specific. specific time estimate. All this. the topics may be separate to deliberation and work. The agenda is a call of order. Include public comment. three minutes review and approve. Next is available on our August 19. 3025 meeting. FY. 26 goals continue discussion of commission. department goals and vision. budget request for fiscal year 2026 and fiscal year two through fiscal year 2030 the gospel vote the darkness. second at the last meeting. In report. the new discretion improved the fiscal year 2025 annual report due September 30. pursuant to town village. chapter 53. dash one. available do correspondence. if any one from the economic development committee regarding Town Center two. East Coast Sherman. Sherman Ridge Road and three DPW. regarding field maintenance. Commissioner. announcements. dash. slash. reports and concerns. Recreation directors. report. schedule our next meeting. date. potential agenda items. 310. topics not increasingly anticipated by the chair. 48. hours in advance of the meeting for him and number 11 adjourned in attendance today regarding Lisa Foster. stewards. my plan And the captain. our recreation there. So the public comment. We'll move right on three minutes review and approve. Minutes are available at August 19. 2025 they just came in. They're in their packets.
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I just have a question on the goals about the identifying Tom
lane that we was suitable for dog park. I don't know if our goal would be better described as. you know. in support of the dog park committee is as needed by our patients. I don't particularly want to identify be the one pursuing the concept more in support of these other committees. I agree. I don't think it's in our purview be supportive of selective
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what I Say. I motion to approve the your second.
second Second. Any discussion? Seeing? None. All in favor. All
um for fiscal year goals. discussion Commission.
Department goals and related budget requests for school year 2026 the fiscal year. 2030 possible vote. They got this presented at the last meeting. So you look at the roller motion. Katherine Brenna: So I prepared a list that's in the packet with the goals. And you can see there's only four there. but the minutes reflect kind of a more comprehensive list. So I don't know which list you want to go on top of that. but I think it would be good to just finalize a list of goals. Well. see that. like in the minutes. there's a couple of other goals that weren't and it might just be my error. When I prepared this document in the packet. I took the list we used last time. and we had stricken a bunch. and so I left before that we're not stricken at on top. but then it. but it looks like these ones that. and I didn't go back and look at the tape when I was making this. So these ones kind of moved up additional suggested commission will be done into that. Unknown: So we look at these goals. one through four and then 14 through 18. We will have discussion in terms of which direction they want to go in terms of four plus five years be effectively the goals we have for this year.
Any comment on that.

Question is. do you do we as a group. look at these at least
nine and say that's too many pursue. And
I don't think that in terms of looking at these goals. I don't
think there's these goals are not. in my estimation. in in order of. I think it may be well. it may well be things that We deal with. first. second. third. not. not necessarily. I and Katherine Brenna: I just add that I think if we look into FY 27 when some of these might be accomplished and there is a need for a budget to support into those goals. then that budget would be submitted this fall. like between now and January. so that we would it.
Unknown: I know you've answered this before. and I'm sorry I
don't remember. Why is it that the middle school is not part of our rotating playground?
Dr. keen.
the playground? Yeah. there isn't. Why isn't the middle school field considered part of the fields that were Oh. it Katherine Brenna: is. it is. It's just a shared asset with the schools. obviously. And so it falls under the MOU where DEP W and the Board of Public Works correct department recognition. And the school committee and school department kind of share that space. It was in my time here. It was slated for complete renovation. probably around this time it moved in the capital plan for. I mean. the town is kind of played with some interesting capital planning strategies. We do have a new capital planning committee that has been established that will hopefully prioritize the needs of the field with needs of the entire town. But in general. like I submit a capital plan in the last two years. it was submitted either to DEP or facilities. and a lot of just doesn't make the cut. And so Middle School is not currently in the five year capital plan. but I do think it's in like six or seven. right the out here. six or seven. which would be 30 FY. 30 or 30. Unknown: So it's in someone's list. Katherine Brenna: It's on the radar. for sure. It is in disrepair. And I think that. you know. like we're renovating Alpine right now. and I think it would. it is the next motion needed field that needs. like. take it offline. But obviously we cannot take the middle school offline without assuming bull back. And so right now that
Unknown: doesn't exist that it
Katherine Brenna: will help the Alpine. Can't replace the middle school entirely. because the Alpine is a single rectangular footprint. and the middle school has a baseball field and softball field.
Jeff Bergeron: And he says. like. could you do this like
left side of the school where like baseball field is. and taking a bit like that hard and then take a red cyber Yeah. is there 600 years of not changing that seems like too long. and it's only gonna get worse? Yeah? Katherine Brenna: I mean. one year is too long. Yeah. there's budget constraints. and there's it's not just reps properties. full property. It's not right. Unknown: Is there like a comprehensive plan that actually lays that opposite like your outline. is number one. right now. This field is number two. This field's number three. like going like so 2027 or 2026 will be this field. Katherine Brenna: 2027 will be the rec department prepares annually a capital plan. and that plan prioritizes all 64 different field sites that have the 12 flag rounds priorities and. you know. sketches them out in the capital plan. It's a massive Excel document that I'm having to share with this group. I use portions of that to submit to the capital plan every year. And that's what I was talking about. that we submit our needs to the capital plan. They don't always make it. And so historically. in the last four or five years that I've been here. the budgets have been. you know. pretty capped at a level service budget. And very few big ticket capital projects have gone in since the lower project or the high school saving project. So like I said. they are in the out years at this point. because they just keep Unknown: getting down the road. but Katherine Brenna: the town is recognizing this is an issue. and that there are kind of family facilities across the board. and has since the last time meeting. established the Capital Improvement Planning Committee. which had its first meeting last week. Unknown: Right? So there's a
Katherine Brenna: group of talents. kind of tasks. like. do
we want to spend $1.5 million on 14 West lane? There's a better student to spend it at the middle school? And kind of prioritize those plans. But we Yes. the rec department has a plan that is based on the condition of the field and Unknown: bouncers. Do you sit in on the capital planning committee meetings? Does anybody on the recognition? Katherine Brenna: No should we? There was a discussion. There was a task force that I sat on ahead of that capital planning committee. where different board members. their school committee reps. ConCom Select Board. There were probably the 12 people were all parties were represented. It was decided among the group that staff would not be on the committee. as it is subject to over Meeting Law. And it was requested that recognition beyond that group. And ultimately decided that. I Unknown: think if you put Katherine Brenna: a recognition member. then you also need a portal. The board of reports in the library. and then they get right. So one of the rules is. actually the people in this committee cannot be members of any other committee. And that was a Tom meeting. again. wasn't approved last year. Okay? So. like two at large members that can be assigned by the Select Board. So it's like recognition has somebody that felt like there would represent recreations interest. they could put that person up to the Select Board to be appointed Unknown: to them. So who's on? No. I don't know. I know. I believe Kelly lane. who's former Chair of the Finance Committee. is element and. Katherine Brenna: You obviously made me feel overly he also from the finance committee. I don't know it's really new. and it's kind of those seats are being filled pretty quickly. So this is something that we can attend. and just it's a public meeting. So the same way that we are subject to opine law with public meetings. and Unknown: so is it similar to the game? Similar to the ABC that the folks are appointed by?
Yeah. could we recommend a name to the Select Board to
absolutely serves on it? Yeah. I think by the week they're filling receipts now. could we possibly recommend someone like Broadway?
Yeah. I mean. that

is important. Yeah. I mean.
that is. yeah.
I don't even know if there are open seats right now. but it's

Mark Norton: working crazy call Brother. if we have an open
seat.
Unknown: I think

maybe
as a board. you know. the middle school question that I brought up was captured under the DEP W field maintenance. and then also increased awareness by recreation of sideboards that are serving on our behalf. So this new group. so maybe the goal could be our increased presence. Katherine Brenna: I don't know. I'm happy to share that. Like. what our internal plan is that we submit through the channels here. but in the last few years. those submissions don't actually make for whatever reason. and sometimes the CPC is part of that as well. because of capital projects that through the CPC. And I think there is movement now to get those CPC projects also in front of this other capital planning committee. so that they can be balanced with Unknown: the overall capital.
Katherine Brenna: But I think that something like the middle
school. it's bigger than that. right? It involves school uses it as far as part of the curriculum. the PD and different uses there. So you can't just hold it. I'll take it offline and do a repair without a solid Unknown: so this. this. this meeting is controlled by select board next to me. so I can reach out to our representatives. what's the procedure? Katherine Brenna: Yeah. and periodically. the Select Board issues over the scenes that are available for LinkedIn. And I believe there's exercise.
Mark Norton: So my only critique with the goals is that we should
have a metric to show achievement. So. collaborating with the DEP W on field maintenance. What is that? What a successful collaboration? Is it we as a group are able make sure that we're having somebody present at some functional work. What is that? I think. just going through the list. they're like. supporting the doc projects. our projects. I think we did that last session. right? Yeah.
Unknown: Right. Without support?
Mark Norton: Yeah. but is there anything else we need to do to show achievement of that goal? So if we look back a year from now. Unknown: like. well. Jeff Bergeron: do we need to. like. email that and saying. like. as part of our permission. I'm part of the discussion and after your presentation. you have to support directly to be able to proceed whatever process you have. And then we can take this goal and mark it as complete. and it shows completion. Unknown: So I think we're done with our goals. Yeah. Number two. is it completed? If there is no ballpark. yeah. Jeff Bergeron: I mean. I think our goal is to support the dog project. and we've shown our support. we've been able to offer that. We've. you know. put it in writing as part of. like. you know. our pleasure. and that's one of the things that we do want to encourage. And if there's a follow up. we can add that to the future agenda. But I think that I agree with Mark. and we need to be able to have there be some type of natural critique is 12 and ones are redundant. so continue to borrow members to better maintain fields and collaborate with de W. I'm feeling they can stand while you MOU is pretty much the same joy. Feel like 12 could 12 the middle are Katherine Brenna: kind of our department mental. and so a lot of times they do dovetail or kind of overlap in that way. And I think that they should. but we do a lot of coordination with the PW in house to make what happens happens. And so I wouldn't strike it on the right department. because it is alright too. But I do think it is a real to be aware of that. because I know that the commission that doesn't stand it has a feelings about the different fields out there. like whether middle school or Alpine. and that we managed to have a say the capital plan that goes through the channels. you know. and it's especially with the middle school. It's a collaboration with the school committee. the work of the works. and now the plan can planning committee. so that. I think you all should have a Mark Norton: secret so in the collaborating. I mean. would we change that to really. what we want To have is Unknown: clarity Mark Norton: as to what's happening in those school field right? What needs to be done to get there. and kind of each as we think about all these different fields that things. programs that were supported. what are we doing? I think just clarity that people want. right? Like you go to middle school field. you're not happy with it. It'd be excellent for us today. 2028 it's in the program to be funded by this. and if you need to go to town meeting to support that. we can also say it's in the book for 28 but you need to make sure you're there for 27 to go for it. It's not a gift. or maybe it is. again. I don't know. but that makes Unknown: sense. Yeah. Jeff Bergeron: way to get any type of like. I guess. progress report for fields from DEP W of priorities. Katherine Brenna: they recently sent out. It's in the package there. you know. they said that. a press release essentially on what they're working on right now. which is in line with our capital planning internally. What we came to an agreement on is the renovation of alpine field. high school girls softball. varsity baseball and played adding irrigation five and six. And so those projects are all in the works for this fiscal year. which is great. but then. yeah. like in the out years. And so the capital plan is published in the Lawrence that gets the literature rooms now. So you can the average resident. if they're not sure where the middle school could be renovated. could look at the capital plan and see where that shakes out. But I believe. like I said. we've been putting before capital planning for a while. The town has historically just planned for the next fiscal year. you know. loosely planned out of the out years. Yeah. they are getting better at that. and so that. yeah. a five year plan would definitely help the community understand. so when they get that would be able to disrepair. they understand where it is in the pipeline. and that maybe that's not the worst. you know. yeah. Unknown: is the five year plan in your estimation going to be sort of desperate. based on What we currently remember. with
respect to the mwrase Defendant? What's going to happen. and then
taking those out years will be more accurately. which Katherine Brenna: way I would say. as we sit here today. there's the out years probably aren't. Will be accurate. but I think with the work of this capital improvement plan. they are tasked to firm up the fire. So this year we should see one that's probably more reliable than being asked. which is great. absolutely. But there are. there is like a compliments of financial expenses coming out of town. WRA and there's there was a push. I know you've known for a while to build an indoor facility at 195 main street. which has triggered a lot of environmental work that's happening now. and some of it is expensive. the remediation that needs to happen at 195 The town is challenged to Unknown: find ways to pay for Yeah. I don't know anybody else Commission has any conversation with anybody quiet.
Katherine Brenna: I think there's an LSP task of looking
at how to remediate that within the time frame the DEP requires and how to fund it. And so I think there was just waiting to see what that
Unknown: shit that's your proposition. right?
Katherine Brenna: And so that. and that is honestly why some of our field projects get pushed out into the outward years. There are priorities. and I would say drinking water. there's a big one that's going to outweigh any kind of grass field projects. Now is Unknown: discussion with DPW for enough along to understand how they're approaching over Katherine Brenna: Yes. they have a plan to look for. They had it assessed by some soil experts. and they have prescribed a maintenance plan. And they respond that maintenance plan. it does take time. PH. in the soil. And. you know. pH. changing the pH in the soil takes years. and so. I mean. it's vital right now. we have groups out there using it. It's. you know. it's not the best field in town. and it should be. but there were Unknown: expenses of mine in
Katherine Brenna: order to maintain that. yeah. yeah.
they're being covered by
Unknown: do we add the DEP W deal meetings as a repeating
item in our agenda? Maybe we have someone go to each meeting so we can kind of report and share that information internally. so we all know what's happening. How do we how do we make this an item we can feel good achieving at the end of the game? Well. I think that the cabinet has has regular contact and interaction.
probably more than
she would like. Maybe. What did you
Jeff Bergeron: visit the thing that came out on the third which
was great to be able to see what progress is. That's something that it's actually like part of the review. we're part of the discussion. I think that would be great. I mean. just looking at it. it's like. I remember. I mean. I had a conversation with Jennifer said about high school girls softball field. and that was the first that I heard that they had something that was already in work. So this company was. I mean. within a week. irrigation was already installed. and it was great. But not knowing that. I think. creates a lot more questions. where it would be great to see. not only like. what's the worst. but also what's coming up. I also like. and then also. if there's a way for us to get to have any sort of input. just looking at like fields. five and six for clay fit as being improvements in irrigation. But even though those are probably the most played on fields. I also feel those are probably the two of the best fields of all. So why did we decide to do five and six as opposed to leveling eight for cleaning up nine and 10 or like. 11. Like. why we're. why was that decided Katherine Brenna: that's like that. That was the easiest way. and on short money and short labor be able to provide irrigation for five and six. We're. like. completely renovating a. a is more disruptive. but B. it was a. there were logistical challenges. especially because of the school that's operating. that's behind the school. So there are reasons. and I think sometimes the general consensus from the community. I think. is that that generally DEP does have a plan. and there are reasons behind their plan. but nobody knows they are and so people are and so people are standing out to feel kind of scratching. Why is this this way? And then. like I said. After a quick conversation with DEP W that you get your answers. but it would be easier if those answers were more readily available. Jeff Bergeron: Here's what's in progress. here's what's coming up. And then we discussed. Unknown: what. if? What if we made the DPW real situation. a standing agenda and and that we would get some type of report from the DPW. especially. what's been accomplished since this July. I think. yeah. and I think their plan is to Katherine Brenna: regularly provide incentive updates. And maybe that's all we. maybe. maybe we. I don't know. How you want to get those reports? Unknown: It could be from directly. I can find out from them and compare something. whatever. whatever. whatever is most effective and easiest. Because you guys. you meet with them regularly. numerous times. So in preparation for. I mean. we have something before. I
think

it's our biggest visibility item for the town. You know. there's
another Tom meeting. They're going to want us to speak on it. and we really have to be up today.
Katherine Brenna: Another avenue that would help keep you
performed is potentially this commission participating in the capital planning that happens. or even just like a review of it. which hasn't historically happened at these meetings. but like having to share like
Unknown: that. yeah. And. you know. we're all kind of. I'm new
on this board. and I've just kind of learned. okay. which lists are starting to be on and Okay. which part of which meeting do I need to attend? And I think. you know. I think we're really getting there as a group. and maybe right now more fostering their foot how we can spread out and figure this out. I
Jeff Bergeron: think that we. I agree with this. I think that we
add a standing agenda item that is. you know. discussing. you know. field maintenance and DTW updates and MOU updates. and either what's in progress and what's planned stuff. and if there's a way to be able to provide any input. you know. we can discuss at that point. And then additionally. I think that having the Capital Planning Committee. having there be some type of person that passes the liaison between. you know. possibly them. I think. would be very Unknown: helpful in terms of that. all that. and then he wants.
I think. probably yes. Okay. so we all screwed away.
Oh. I think maybe we had a little rerun in terms of what went on last night at 14 West Windsor So. Leslie and I were both there. and I think that the number of folks in chatting. and there are a number of folks who spoke very much in favor of what we're doing. as far as asking with another woman whose name I did not get you also.
no. well. Chris Reynolds is speaking as a practice. yeah.
and the other woman was speaking As a looking at it from the perspective it's an opportunity to purchase your property that has a lot of attributes that could be used by a lot of different ways. And I was advocating for recreation relocated there recreation needs. They were saying that it was something like $200 per square feet to take over this property that currently existed. versus the $800 per square foot to find new Oh. yeah. Well. that goes to costly communist. So this. this property is. and I don't know whether any of you folks had an opportunity to have a tour so. but when you do. it was done. saying. literally. in very good condition. Uh. does not need much in terms of upgrades. Um. handicapped accessible and well. it doesn't have an elevator. There are ramps that allow folks with disability to access all especially building. This is everything the library was interested in offering new services and collaboration with recreation the library and we. we can make this happen at the library and recreation tenants in that building. we can. Know in the library at all. We were here this morning. discussed this. and then we could move forward with further discussion. And then it really is having a select board said that they were going to make a decision in terms of what they want to do. pursuing the property by the end of the month. So that's Yeah. and I just want to add in the people who were against the acquisition were saying that the it would take the property out of a commercial zone and into a municipal zone. and the last and you come to the town. would be considerable. It doesn't make any
difference. plus the staffing cost to. you know. upkeep trash
and clean bathrooms and sure and all this. bits and pieces that
position but I don't know whether you would address this.
whether we would have an opportunity go and Take a look.
Take a look at the building. We

Is

Jeff Bergeron: there any commercial interest in the
building? Unknown: Right now. the building is on market. Along the building. at this particular one time. would be willing to wait to recognize the briefer to do anything about this building the approach Tom me through the town again. because. because it deals with funding. and so April that when we decision would be made. and then that would be contingent upon it going forward. So forward. so there's plenty of time to figure out what we what we would like to do. but I think for sooner that we can get in there and see what's available to us for collaboration with the library. I think that would go a long way to determine
my concern was. you know. what happens when depression. if the
rec department itself moves to this building? How would it be detrimental to that department to sever. you know. proximity of being in the town building and amongst other Tom employees. and being down the call from the town manager. Will that be an issue. but. but maybe it's the one department. it wouldn't hurt as much as other departments. And then also vacating the space. you know. Council of aging just vacated record. Then be vacated? What? How would that space be used? And does that make sense? My opinion. the reason the consular region left the region recreation. Jeff Bergeron: I know Weston has that whole separate they have their Yeah. it's amazing.
I mean. I would definitely be available to walk in and see.
would the party owners be able to. like. maintain it until. like. it's town meeting and it's nothing. nothing can happen until July. Are they willing to. like. maintain the building. or the next nine months. they're still living there. So it looks like it was actually driving by. So I wasn't sure that I thought they left the building. I just want to make Unknown: sure that there's some segments there for eight months. Yeah. Jeff Bergeron: occupying it right now? Yeah. Okay. Unknown: so my question regarding commercial basket. Jeff Bergeron: like interest is like only because I know that I don't know what that what goes into that space. right? That's right next to that gas station has been empty and for at least for 10 plus years. and I would hate for Super. you know. anything to pass and have it be an additional eyesore that's on that corner just sitting there. So. yeah. yeah. Unknown: exactly. Jeff Bergeron: Or what was better for CBS? I mean. it was like. there's so many things that just sit there and get over grown. I would hate for this to be another one. Unknown: Because addition of this particular. I think. Captain. if you could. if you could reach out and see if we can get An update for us. Um.
good.

So

looking at this agenda. whether you want to cover anything twice
Main Street.
Katherine Brenna: So it was listed as an additional
suggested goal. and I think that was from prior years and interest in the property. Like I said. I think we are in a waiting game the some of the remediation needs to be completed by this November for mass DEP. But like I said. the town is looking at fun the remediation that has to happen there. There's pink bass. there's soil contamination. There's groundwater contamination. They're not saying that developing that land is impossible. so it's. you know. it is possible. but the price tag is potentially an issue. It's also not broken lane. It is causes. Unknown: Well. actually. it was. historically. it was dpwr Lane. And then if. when that whole issue was suggesting they move to the new facility. DPW stated. they'll be more than happy to relinquish their responsibility. So if recreation. the schools and a library become your agreement in terms of how the facility that property of youth. and actually we did. but then the library get turned down. The library get turned down after this August. into a state of trust. So I now is now.
Mark Norton: I think what's important 195 days relates to
this group. is the RFP that the Select Board will put out for whoever will develop that site for that athletic facility. And I do think it's important that this group participate in that evaluation. so that the ARPA accurately reflects the needs of the community. rather than just. you know. being financial in nature. So addressing. you know. all age groups. multi generational access. all those items. So if we have a goal. I want to make sure that if you're talking to Doug anyway. understanding where they are in that process of RFP development and how rec can be involved in the development of the architect. I think it's
Jeff Bergeron: definitely a goal that stays on here. It may just
be one of those that doesn't happen in 26 it stays on here. So that Unknown: way it's constantly discussing much more definitively. Well. for the mediation cost side. yeah. and then whether we move forward the remediation consensus. billions of dollars. with all the other fiscal aspects of their community of that currently. yeah. yeah. yeah. because there's no one. no. no one is going to want to come in here and and operate that facility. It's going to cost them million dollars up front. I think that's nothing. Yeah. yeah. but thanks.
Anything else in terms of goals.
so I have so far that we said number one that. Collaborating DPW. we touched on that. supporting the dog park. but we land on any
Jeff Bergeron: actual tangible goals. on how we might be able
to do that. So we're not going to identify the land. but once. once they do. what can we do. other than. you know. maybe send a letter somewhere saying Unknown: that. from my perspective. that would be what we can do. We could throw our support as a commissioner. We could throw our support behind it. But I don't think that we have any other
Jeff Bergeron: I think I think we just I think we get needed.
We can either let them. we allow whoever is on that committee to be able to say that they have the support of the recognition as part of their process. If they need something in writing. you know. I have no problem sending an email saying. you know. just so that way you have it. You know. we discussed this where it's worth it. but I think that that's one of those necessarily need to be involved at this point I was showing support. We can do that. We can sort of loop it as a. you know. in progress or near completion Unknown: task. and also thinking what would happen. I think it would be an article next year. So I think we can certainly support as part. as part of the opportunity. Yeah.
we keep in three and four. I thought those dropped off the
list from the last meeting. but I think I suggested the global opportunities. I don't I think the big ball community is pretty content. and until they reach out and think it's something different strike that
Jeff Bergeron: doing. I was. I wasn't sure if that included
like. you. type like. encourage. not like. doing any type of like. rep. type of all like. yeah. like. youth opportunity. especially if. like. if field off. you Were going to a private Is that something that sort of fills that athletic void of field coffee is there. you know. becomes like a rec program or something like that? Katherine Brenna: I think that we can capture the goals of this item within rec department goals. So. like just your normal program assessments. I don't necessarily think it needs to be a priority. Unknown: And Lauren is happy to talk. if necessary. my wife about erase that after our last meeting. she's happy to if that would be helpful.
Thank and now bottom this. 1415. 1617. 18.

Well. Wesley started working on number 14. which is great. She
provided some documents that voted this morning. That Katherine Brenna: on the agenda for next meeting. If the commission is an agreement that this could be a goal. Unknown: I think that's actually Jeff Bergeron: that would be one of the priority goals. There's a lot Unknown: discussion about evaluating fuel costs and fee schedule that I think is an ongoing. ongoing issue.
Yeah. we just need to be apprised and aware of what your
recommendations are and how we do. Katherine Brenna: And I think once we once the commission voted the new policy and we rolled it out. there were some pickups and some groups that couldn't understand how they fit in. but I think we've ironed out a lot of those issues. So I don't necessarily think it's necessary to go back and change any way that it was building. but as we continue to use it and learn new things. we might have amendments the next time we look at it. but I would say we should look at it manually. Mark Norton: Yeah. So I. I agree with that. ideally. and CPC as well. I think this board would probably be aware of what is going forward there. What's the scheduler that works best for you on both the field fees. the timing got kind of like tricky last year. So what are we best in the year? Just to address it for you on both of those fronts. Katherine Brenna: So for the field policies. I think it's best to do in the office. You don't want to feel the clothes. So closed. so in January and to go into effect either that following spring. or do I want this year. just so people can budget and all that. I think that a general review of the capital planning. During the budget season. which is when the fall is best. So that potentially our fall right meetings would have some kind of review to the capital planning. which should include CDC projects submitted by the commission. But I know at some point the CPC also looks to the recognition. to look to opine on applications that are not presenting. and that happens again in the fall of December. We could swap that into the agenda October. and then a few of ones in December. Unknown: Okay. yeah. I think submissions. And mid November. I think December. So it is Katherine Brenna: in line with kind of the capital clinic in general. and so we could take a review of the entire department's capital plan as we submit it through channels. and potentially identify projects that would be suitable for students.
Unknown: I think we really need to carve out some time and see
if we see this here. because I felt like that was over. Was rushed through. I was new to it. I didn't understand and we yeah. we need to really review each item.
priorities. review each other. Priorities. submitted and

then become familiar with the Open Meeting. I don't know how
many open meeting rock training. so being historically in this town has been a real issue. not for recreation. There's been a real issue for other doors. and we call on traffic numerous times and as board members and town for over so in our best interest that everybody takes a look at The over mer thing and just complete it. So we've done our due diligence as far as that's concerned. and understand where we are with respect to having open gates. one of the biggest areas that we need. And I don't think. I don't think anybody is looking at the Recreation Commission as consistent violators of the opening. and I don't think they're looking at us. Well. we can. we can make points by your email. For beneficial for us to make sure we don't fall so it takes probably half an hour. 45 minutes in the country with and one of the biggest violations that we do have is answering emails they can't. Can't answer emails for the entire board they haven't posted. then your family having that.
absolutely you do a very good job and you Always have to carry
out. Please don't respond to all that's Katherine Brenna: the other big one that I think is getting hit with is discussing or acting on items that aren't specifically if you kind of get outside of the scope of the agenda item. So this board hasn't been other boards. So yes. just remind you want to really talk about something in a meeting. or even because you vote on it. just shoot us an email. Unknown: yeah. or for something you just come up with last minute talking to it's easy to list Katherine Brenna: something as a vote and not be ready for the novice.
Unknown: Okay? So. yeah. Steve Calvin. Are good. but yeah so.

okay. annual report. review. discussion and approval of the
fiscal year. 2025 annual course through September 30. pursuant to town flow. Chapter 53. one. if available. and they are relatively known about it. And I feel like
I did not go back to make the ends. I don't
remember. Just Well. so do you want me to say like
so it says in the CBC commission that committee the last line
fiscal year 2025 CBC and Tom voters funded improvements to Cochituate ballpark. That was fiscal year 2024 and last year in 2025 sorry. we did the York Road trail on the Tom building the ground so we had 400.000 to the town building playground. and something like 33.000 to the York Road trail. the last 70. like the last time. I'm not sure if that's 126 so then if it's FY 26 then I feel like that should not list me. because that's not my turn. That would have been have been Kelly. That was just like. so you're understanding ground up. I'm just beginning. and so I put
25 of your birth right? Yeah. maybe I'm wrong. but no.

what does FY 25 end? 26 begin?
FY 26 begin on July 1.
So maybe I was present for that. That

would have been July 24 to.

Yeah. Things
you're talking about Yeah. so. so this was. I looked this morning. and it was on the annual Tom meeting 2024 list. the 154.000 to constituent ball fields and softball fields. and then the 296 in the DEP with people. Katherine Brenna: So you're saying you weren't on the CPC when that was okay. Unknown: that was at the 2024. annual time meeting. But I'm not sure if that's considered. I think that's considered.
I will go back and get this very

so it should on July 120. 25 we voted in favor of reappointing
Leslie ending. June 30. 2026.
right. that's FY 26 this is the FY 25 report.
Katherine Brenna: So. so on my first 24 we had a meeting. and what would you do to be the CPC back? Right? So that is the entire duration of FY 25 but. yeah. So that's sentences. true. but you're it is unrelated to the FY 25 approval that happened to Tom made that Unknown: year. right? Because it was supplier term. But okay. so we Katherine Brenna: could restructure it just so it like the first sentence true. yeah. and the last sentence was true. but they were not related. right? So we could say maybe something like in. in the prior term. yeah. the CPC before these projects. Because if Unknown: you're going to list my term there. I think you would list the North Road Trail and the Tom building playground.
correct my 25

All right? Thank you.

Grammatical. yeah. I

hope that's up. Would someone make a motion for two the annual
reports in September of
25? Assume the town called chapter 53 dash one. and with
with
the amendments to the CPC
recession. my second. Are there?
Commissioners. announcements and reports and concerns

and I would like
to say that the CDC committee is meeting tomorrow. and unfortunately I'm unable to attend. And I was wondering if anybody from this committee would be able to attend to my place tomorrow at 630 I plan to submit a summary of the recreation CPC funds what's been completed. but I Just don't love that there's totally out of space. without recreation mind. just it's usually very formal. So where the first meeting. they're just kind of setting things. but I don't know Katherine Brenna: if it's appropriate. or someone could go in your seat. just from an informative standpoint. So it kind of. I don't think that they could participate in the conversation. or both. Unknown: They can't go. Yeah. but it's more just as a placeholder to remind them. uh. recreation and care to help.
Hello. you're I think it's a very. very short meeting. I
remember the last time our first meeting. we didn't have enough time to pass the cookies all the way around the table. so
it worked.

Mark Norton: No no. we're hosting for people that are in
town. so I can't really.
Unknown: yeah. no. I'll provide a written summary of our
progress to you. And Susan. yeah. nice. yeah. yeah. it has been
consistent Wayland town building that I see right now.

A lot more

i The other thing I just wanted to say is. I did look at a few
sites with the dog park committee. and their number one priority is. I'm not sure if it's changed from their website. but they they really liked that small plot of land right behind Ace Hardware. which was previously offered to the town from for $100 but that. I think that Tom meeting. we didn't accept the land. So I'm not sure if there's any. they have any right to that land. It's just. it's where the the the of the touch of chocolate. That was how there's a little pasture right there. a little green space that's. you know. under used. and would be just so that plastic. if it was improved.
Okay. they don't need very much. I mean. they're. they're not
looking for much. Well. we're looking at recreation. They're looking for two spaces. Yeah. they. they saw that little field and thought that would. yeah. that side for both if they could manage that. which is that. Jeff Bergeron: The two spaces aren't necessarily in two separate areas. It's just like. maybe. like an offense that would divide so that we have an area so. but it
Unknown: would be they could be all in one
area. Yeah. they're really interested in that too. And. yeah.
so I encourage them to attend those meetings.

I went to see the Sherman bridge. road bridge. I took 10
minutes last Friday. It's absolutely stunning. Anybody should go there and improve your day. It's so peaceful. so beautiful. The bridge itself is really lovely. The wood. it's just. it's. it's calming. And there. you know. there is a boat ramp. the twos. and who are fishing there? When I went. there were two or three fire crews there when I went. which is some amazing thing to happen in 10 minutes. the mass.is has a proposal to improve the bridge By structurally silver.
So we are state of disrepair.
Yeah. it needs some repair. It's very clear that they want to repair it by making it suitable for cars. not so much suitable for the in. you know. the environment that it's in. So they want as many cars as possible to be able to go as heavily and fast as possible. So they want to do is.
Is called the name. so I got it. It's blue Lane plus asphalt
combo. So it's like a petrified wood that looks pretty on the outside. but the asphalt combo is just like putting the idle right on top. so that that like pleasing sound of a car kind of going over the nice bridge like that's all lost. and it's gonna happen. if you can just tell that Mass DOT wants to change it for their purposes. not for environmental purposes. And I think. I think a lot will be lost if they do do that. civil and original. or heavy trucks to take that route. which some trucks might avoid it because of the wood bridge. it's going to encourage people to go faster. I think it would be nice to have some sort of speed tempering measures in the neighborhood. or bridge. You know. lower speeds encourage lower league vehicles. But I don't know. I'd just be interested to see what comes up at but. Katherine Brenna: yeah. no. it's and Doug stops. Is he still. I think so. Yeah. he wrote a letter to this commission asking for recreation permission support in this so potentially not to go back to reopen the goals. But if the submission is interested in supporting that. then maybe it should be wonderful. Building.
Unknown: I don't know. I wasn't sure how much of it was
recreation. I mean. I know bikers go over it and bikers use it. but like. what sort of space to control and that? Katherine Brenna: Yeah. I don't think it's any of those actually wrap land. But he doesn't make an argument that it is a recreational aspect and that the recognition should take. I The Jeff Bergeron: recognition should take that very quick. That looks like it was approved for Community Preservation Act funds anything ever come from that. Unknown: Not that I know about it was in Jeff Bergeron: town meeting time. meeting in 2022 when voters approved to use the Community Preservation Act. So they purchased that area. Oh. and now it needs more to be able to get Unknown: So apparently there's a. like. a goat shed. There's a small house that's right there. I was speaking to conservation about. you know. the Tom when they need some goats to get rid of the poison ivy. And she's like. Oh. we approach it. and we just bought that. and then we just get somebody to mind the goats in the weekend. So not our problem for now. yeah. But I'm not sure if it's the same or. yeah. Jeff Bergeron: I think that's like. a separate car than. like. just outside the acre? Unknown: Think so. I'm not sure. though. but yeah. I think it's a watch the space.
Did anybody respond to the dep.no
one responded. No. Oh. I. I told Doug that I would take a lot. Okay. yeah. so. yes. yes. I did acknowledge Doug in that way. but not officially. That's part of it.
Mark Norton: Sorry. I agree with supporting it again to give some
good follow up progress perspective. How do we engage in what can we do with it's a mass got problems.
Unknown: Oh. I think it's whether the road launch is in
Katherine Brenna: our purview or and whether a biker's right of Unknown: way is something that a person's right to natural beauty. I don't know. Mark Norton: Yeah. I appreciate. and I know. I know it's fine.
Unknown: and I agree with him. I
just want to be able. in our capacity. to do something
to be discussed.

and we could add
Katherine Brenna: Amber work. like I said. potentially it's
relevant. Sure. I think the
Unknown: meeting about this on October 1. Mary select quarters. have I made full arm? Is that right? A full run.
is that right?
Katherine Brenna: I haven't heard October 1. It could be Doug wrote us all an email on August 27 that said it was two weeks ago. So as of two weeks ago. it had been scheduled. but I
Unknown: you want to

Katherine Brenna: a summer. there's a nice write up with
everything we did in the right. right up in the way we post the record permit. that's about the beach and the camps and fields and all fun stuff to hit the summer of letting me down in here on time. our fall program registration open end in August for pretty good numbers we have we two years ago. we created direct task program to help support the wait list of The base programs. The base program has since resolved its weightless issue. which has pretty much eliminated the need for us to provide after school program that would be also running Wednesdays. which is early Wednesday and super Wednesdays. so that we're starting to roll out programs in the community center. We have chess lessons happening over there. some babies in courses. We had our coaches meeting for the field hockey parents out up there. Really cool space. and we're excited about it right now. In September. we're all working towards this swim festival on fourth it's going to be a really. cool event. It's historically. we've done touch and truck. which is extract some cool community partners that put on an event that this year we're partnering with the hrda. who's putting on a multicultural pavilion on artist marketplace. Wayland Arts is coordinating some live music on stage. which is going to be pretty awesome. And the red 250 committee is also planning a parade that will kick off in the morning ahead of touch drop. It's pretty cool. There's going to be food trucks here. beer garden. kids activities. something like that. It's going to be big. We got some data from our last touch truck was through about 3200 visitors to the events. and so we anticipate that this one will be much bigger. Um. I believe they're working on that. I don't know. I haven't seen that. Unknown: Um. On. We already Katherine Brenna: talked about the analysis. We're working very closely with DEP W to get fields in better condition and stretched appropriately and ready for games each weekend. The beach is obviously closing the season. but we're doing some of our all prep stuff to get the building ready for next season. and closing off season. we do still have a handful of events that happen in the fall. Our crew is planning a series of new school fun nights. as they call them. or youth nights. with plan police and the family services. The first one is actually coming up at the end of this month. It's going to be for sixth graders Middle School. It's kind of a social night. And then there's a couple of trips planned after that. which is
Unknown: really exciting. The
Katherine Brenna: ones. the one on the winter will be to me show the valley. I think they're talking in October buffalo. which is in some kind of Halloween inspired event. middle school students.
26 annual fishing derby that happened this past spring. and
volunteer that has made that happened. That event happened for 26 years. Tom Antonella said. decided to. we'll call it retired from that event. And so we're working with our teams. Team are kind of working to see there's a way to keep going to Wakeland. because it is a very popular event. Helen says. going on for a long time. Unknown: Um. so we hope. we hope to keep that alive with TBD. Um. we are working Katherine Brenna: with the playground designer on the children's way playground. which should go to bed this fall. We're working with the associates on the design working through ballpark. varsity baseball. Now. find her underway. and then we have been involved some of these 14 plain street conversation. Not all we have the balls that are in the air right now. just just for general programming. it was you. Unknown: Question actually. because for the CPC meeting coming up. they're going to want to know if we have used all the funds have been allocated to us in the last three years. Katherine Brenna: So to some degree. yes. For example. the two years ago. they appropriated money for the town beach entry way and playground is completed in our use. and we installed 80 cents of that appropriation
and the beach entry project. Most of that work is done. but
there is still some work to do there. So we do expect some expenditures to happen. but also that there will be a turn back to the CPC. So the bid for the fence actually came in way after that. we will be Unknown: able to turn some money back there
Katherine Brenna: and the CPC funded the town. Yes. this town.
which. like I said. should go to bid this fall. and once it's been the construction is like a six to eight process. So by the time CPC goes to the next round of voting. but that should be
Unknown: resolved. We
Katherine Brenna: have to coordinate this preschool that is housed in this building uses that as part of their curriculum even in the winter. So we need to kind of work around your schedule. So we have to work. There's no good times to figure
Unknown: out the it out. But hopefully
Katherine Brenna: this this one a little bit challenging because it's in the weapons and there's some other factors that go into it. but we're working Unknown: through Saturday
or
Yeah. there was money for the payments. Does that mean. Katherine Brenna: oh. the spending of the money? Yeah. we spent some portion of the money that has been allocated to ball car for design or a mass plan for the site. I want to say 18 or 20.000 of the appropriation we're developing the timeline for when the rest of it would be spent. Three years ago. CPC appropriated about $150.000 to renew the basketball court. and we kind of put that on ice until this master plan is done. So there is a plan to spend it. Of it's. I would say. three or more years older. but I'm not ready to Unknown: give it back. I hope they don't. I'm ready. Okay.
I'm just

okay. sorry. that's all. I never really

Katherine Brenna: the fall is supposed to be quieter than the
summer so far. So
Unknown: anything else. schedule our next meeting.

What works for the

and this time and during the interview is good.

It's not occurring that it's making that means

Katherine Brenna: agenda items and all documents should be
ready. please.
Unknown: We talked about here today.
Jeff Bergeron: the only we were to look at 14 West lane. Do we go like we need a day to do that? Unknown: Now. I think that's going to be what we're allowed to do that. okay. but. but prior to our next meeting. that'll
be okay. Should we recommend Tuesday. at this
Jeff Bergeron: time or as possible. to actually do it as like a immediately after or before here we meet there at 930 on the 21st and then sort of do it all at once. Unknown: You ask for that. Yeah.
Another
branch conversation or potential public forum
and potential review.

Katherine Brenna: Maybe. I guess. we find high school Yes.
yeah. yes. like when you said. Anthony.
Unknown: yeah. motion to adjourn. I'll make a motion to
return a second. All in favor. Thank you all for coming.