October 16, 2026 – Economic Development Committee – Video & Transcript

October 16, 2026 - Economic Development Committee

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This is a meeting of the Economic Development Committee. We don't have to read our preamble anymore to be able to sign. So this is in person and remote. All of our members here are in person. Jeff is not here yet, but we have Tom Fay remotely. In person, we have Rebecca Sunisi, Karen Kelly, Ali Pallat, and Katie Harris. And probably soon Jeff, I think, but we'll know when he gets here. So with that, anybody want to public comment? Nope. Nope. All right. So we'll just jump into the meeting minutes. So hopefully we will finally be caught up, which is great. So I'm going to start with the July 10th meetings.
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Any comments? Looks good. I'm good. Okay. Is there a motion to approve? Motion to approve. Motion to approve. Second. Second. I'll leave second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. All right. 4-0. 4-0. And then next in order, September 11th. We're in New York, that was a fact, to make sure that's right. Just add the minutes will be submitted by Chad on the front page. No, the same, actually. If there is no issue, do you guys have anything to say about anything else? I usually just don't vote unless there's, unless I need to vote about the four minutes. If the minutes aren't going to pass, I won't vote. I usually just don't vote unless there's no, not vote, and then I stop saying. But that's interesting. It's a personal thing. It's a vote. People love the vote minutes. They don't, man, I wasn't there. I have trash to do. Yeah. I feel like the fact that I have trash to do. A lot of times you can't vote. You can't vote. You can't vote. All right. Any comments on the September 11th? No. Hearing none, do I hear a motion to approve? Motion to approve. Katie, do I hear a second? Second. All in favor? Katie? Aye. Aye. Karen? Aye. Aye. Oh.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Thank you All right, so Tom Faye, you are in your car and may have limited time. Any updates for us or anything you want to public comment or otherwise raise? I think two topics. First, I'm not familiar with the too many details, but it appears that Wayland is the recipient of a sizable grant from the state relative to wastewater. The town center region. So our board will be chatting with Michael McCall further about this. It was a grant that the town applied for, and it relates to housing, right? It relates to the MBTA housing statute. Yeah. As we know, Raytheon is the big obstacle in potential housing at Wayland Township. But I can see that this grant might be a benefit if the town votes to modify zoning along Route 20 for possible housing units along Route 20. That's a big picture comment many, many years away. I wanted your committee to know this. The second thing is I've reached out to the state to learn more about their adopt the highway program. And what I'd like to do is learn more about how involved it is, and maybe your board would consider discussing it at a future meeting. What I'm getting at is this area along Route 20, can an organization or more than one organization adopt that portion of the state highway to make it more presentable? Throughout the year. So those are the two things I have.
Like the whole Route 20 corridor or just Wayland Center, or what were you thinking? Just the Route 20 corridor, say from 27-126 down to, say, the transfer facility entrance. Maybe the subway line. I just think that in addition to the property owners doing a better job in looking after their property, I think there's a lot of areas that our state property might be cared for better. Okay. So you're saying, is there actually a state protocol because it's a state road? Do we have to apply for it? What needs to be done? Do you know? That's what I'm looking into. I have me in contact and expect to hear more next week from the state. I'll keep you all posted. Okay. Perfect. And while we have you, Katie's question, you and I talked briefly. Can you just update on the status of the, since you mentioned Raytheon? Of having a playground? Was there feedback from town council? What was the latest status on that? So there was feedback from town council. I passed it along to the LSP from Raytheon. They're talking to Raytheon. So I'll follow up next week with the LSP to see whether he heard anything. So I would describe it as ongoing discussions. Okay. Just a quick thing. I know we have a very long history with Raytheon. It's a piece of property. It feels like it's such a thorn in our side, as far as like playgrounds, development, anything, any moving a piece of dirt. Yeah. Yeah. Do we need to have like a task force to like this probably out of the EDC purview, but does there need to be a group of people that is like specifically working on this to try and move the needle a little far forward? I know that we have done a ton already, but essentially, Tom, at this point, it's you and Michael, right? Is it sort of, who's really leading the discussions? Well, I think that's fair. I'll just say that at this point, Raytheon's general council is looking at situation in a very conservative way and, but that doesn't mean that something can't be done. So. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you, Mark. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not, not being addressed. It's just slower than it should be. So to answer your question, to be honest with you, I'm not sure a task force would really be appropriate at this time. On the other hand, if Raytheon confirmed their, you know, they have no problem with the concept of a playground at the Wayland Town Green that I think maybe a task force or some working group would be appropriate to explore in more detail. Who's going to pay for it? Where it's going to go? Does it make sense from use of the town green? How much landscaping would need to be done? Who's going to pay for that? I'm just not sure we're there yet.
I think Jesse is also talking with Raytheon, who has some relationships there. I feel like at this point, it's going to be the relationships that end up moving the needle. Does Jesse have any thoughts about the MBTN communities? They're really interested in it. First and foremost, it's getting up to speed in what they have. I'd ask them about that. It's not that we don't want to do it, but we do. We're just doing what we have to do right now. They know that also wastewater is an issue. Even if you got it through Raytheon, if you can't flush, you can't build. It's all the puzzle pieces that have to come together. There's all those things we want. The science, the space, the soccer, ice hockey, and then also the list of half. They'll focus on that piece first. Then maybe eventually, as they worn down and we're grading the arms and we do something in a wastewater capacity that increases, then it'd be happily MBTA. They don't want to get ahead of the gun. They don't want to be so excited to do all this work. Yeah, really. We don't have Raytheon. Makes sense. They know it's a long-term plan. Can I talk about it? Is there a place where they can shoehorn a playground on outside the purview of the Raytheon dotted line, so put it on public property? Would they consider putting a playground on private? I think the problem is, at least from what I understand, is the reason why the existing, Becky, you probably know this better than I, the land is contaminated. That's why the... No, right, but I think there's a section somewhere where it doesn't overweigh, right? Right near the Stop and Shop. I think there's a section where... That's the only parking thing, but we're not sure. Right, Stop and Shop has... And it'd be Stop and Shop's parking lot, which they're not going to... Yeah, Stop and Shop has a pretty ironclad, that'd be it, that way. So they have a lot of things in there. You would think they'd be in there, but they are. There's a lot of things in there. What about over where the dog park's supposed to go? Is that within the Raytheon realm? I don't know, we'll have to look at the whole... I don't believe so, but... Because I mean, that might be bigger than the... It's literally the Stop and Shop. Yeah. Where they mark the environmental... Where they mark the environmental not impacting or impacting? Impacting, I think. I thought it was the other way around. I thought... Stop and Shop is not impacting. That's where the building was. Yeah. When the old Raytheon building was. And everything else, because of Town Green, I think it's everything kind of in that... They got it carved out for River Trail Place, for the residential there. But that was approved so long ago, back when Raytheon hadn't already been bought out. So... But I do believe they also have an LSP on this too, so... They're in town, and they have different LSP's, but most likely they wouldn't be able to bring that LSP. So... There's a lot of people, professionals working on this at different angles. So... Yeah. It's wild. But it's worth asking the question. Yeah. I mean... How successful... How should we want to fight it? If there's like a little parcel where you could put a playground, yes, it would be on private land. But I mean, playground's not big dollars. I mean, I'm sure we can maybe work something out with them. Like... I don't know. Maybe they pay for it to put it on. And I don't know. The maintaining is probably the big question. And I think it's probably a good thing that we're not thinking about, though, yet. I mean, the plumbing and all those other things. Yeah. The plumbing and all the other stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Something to keep in mind. Alright. So, that segues, Robert, into Town Planner update. So, has Rafito signed off? Do they have their decision? You said? Not yet. They have their approval. From like the meeting. From what? The signage. Using the info space for soccer, volleyball, ice hockey, and the other areas. They have the approval. They just have to like get the written decision that says, I think, okay, I've decided to go with like... Can we keep it at the home? Yep. Yep. And the decision has to be done within 21 days or something like that? It would have to be approved within 65 days of the first hearing, which was September 9th, so we still have to finalize it and make sure that it's still going to happen. Like mid-November latest? It's not on the room, there's no information, we just need to make sure it's on the place. So can they proceed without the written decision? They need the written decision. So with the dog park, I know there were some questions about the health department and things like that. Did that get approved or was that not part of it? It was part of it. The dog park's not that big deal because it's on fencing and or not a building code. I think it's more an issue of building code and making sure it's accessible. So if someone has a wheelchair and they want to help a dog, they can just go to the dog park, it has to be approved. I think it's more an issue of building code and making sure it's accessible. So if someone has a wheelchair and they want to help a dog, that that is accessible at the VBA. So that's probably actually more building code issues than actually like a zoning and planning issue with the device from my point of view. Okay so you know again there's no there's no issue that came up on that I mean I think it's more about for science was more about making sure we have a plan behind how big the signs are more and how big the panels are and make sure that we're very precise and we'll we put on there so it's very easy to repeat and so on and back in the future. Yeah and it was again it was just the front signs like the two signs route 20, route 126, route 27, route 20 and then you also have blocking it off yeah bring the bullets. But with the signage they said I know they wanted to come back and do the interior like where you find the signage did they give a time frame or no? No I think they're fine. I mean I don't know I think they're trying to focus on fighting off examples so that they can provide to the tenants hey look we did this now you know phase two so the thing about different like phases they know that this is a long-term plan it's not like a project where you come in you fix it and you sell it and they think this is an investment throughout to to you know bring the work so they know that they step by step. Wow um is the signage going in the same place as the yes signs okay yeah that helped accelerate the rules. That's pretty big to be honest but I mean it needs to be bigger than 20 you need to think about the signs that will improve more than that capacity is on it so we're looking at what's like 20 years later right like things have changed route 20 you need this building up with 20s and we'll just like zoom by so yeah they're they're larger than you get anywhere else but you also have a giant closet that needs that needs an attraction people to see where it is to stop so. Okay I did talk to Jesse about the idea of having a signage that gives an update you know it's a festival this weekend or live music Thursday whatever it is so if he was saying they was it couldn't fit it on the regular sign because of their existing um just constraints that they have but it is something they want to look at so that will probably occur with the next phase with the way we need signs so goal is definitely to get all the temporary signs off sort of hopefully the wayland festivals were the last one but then it kind of we don't have a sort of a way to transmit what's going on inside them. As you as you know there's been two business three new businesses coming to the wayland town center one where the um uh the sushi place used to be um that's gonna be the uh new christine print racing that's probably uh experts around and then we have our bio cafe which you think is probably closer to opening faster than the ice cream place and that's not the corner across the north town green it's the very nice because bakeries and popular spring we had uh so and then the back needs and stuff so for these all the updates said you can get what is the end of the math but yeah it's an oh great so another but then i don't know who to use but you know now if you've got a kid off you can go get a cup of coffee go get an ice cream but i also have the ice cream thing will be more expensive than just ice cream so yeah it's a lot of extension menu different... Different... options so yeah it's a positive vibe going forward because they're having sort of a preliminary sort of community event for revival cafe i got an email and then decided to send it around but it's just introducing the group so revival is the cafe and the group that they're affiliated with is so it'd be taking it'd be providing a job to go over uh potential disabilities challenges of you know providing a job to do work at the cafe bakery yeah so i think they're going to be the staff so yeah it's interesting but we also have this big push in town to have shared living so you know there's some odd advantage it talks over people from i'll be older i think it's called the something elders they're very excited to partner with revival and be part of this thing so all right any other updates no i think master plan we gotta we gotta say walk with best out of the law walking through some of the stuff through 20 master plan um and get back to them see where they're at but i think we're trying to shoot for some kind of some kind of report by the end of this next parade and then so two years away be too short they have to have something and then zoning for that's great just knowing there's a green deadline or so yeah right over so i don't think three months is enough time to do all this work kind of do a public outreach then develop a public hearing which is something that works out so that playboard knows this is when it's going to be spring of 2028 not seven so just like okay i'll make sure we do it right and there was no discussion of having something in the interim for next year just simple stuff yeah that's right i have i've been pointing out playing would have 20 years old you and i i think it's a pretty good question yeah yeah yeah so that's sort of like how you Ok I'm on civil society is like you know if you think you need some kind of public hearing but you don't really need public hearing uh that's you're not going to have a lot of time to do that there's a lot of you know planning to bring to town meeting if you go to the below the stuff you've been planning to bring to town meeting well so a violer housekeeping and that's four permits updates slot and so what and this what if that's for I've reached out to, in general, temporary signs, so when a new business comes in, we're kind of like, we'll have to put up temporary signs for like 30 days, but half of them do, but actually, to their full, it's like, yeah, so you put, don't know what comes in, I'll turn it, I'm going to put up temporary signs, so they're going to track that to actually the buyer itself, not just at will, that's what we're doing today, we're just kind of like, yeah, we'll put up 30 days, but we're seeing how great it will be, I'm talking, you know. I think it's some kind of a Google, it's like, we were talking with Elizabeth Lee Boutique, who's now been there for 20 years, which is just mind-blowing, because I remember when it went in, but they wanted to have sort of a temporary sign for, you know, this sort of 20th anniversary type, sort of thing, but, you know, even if it's not a new business, what elevates it to the level of meaningful? We can do that, too, I remember in downtown, where we had a, this is, it's a lot of work, a lot of, well, we're starting to do it, but have like, like, if you have 40 days, you can do any kind of account a year, and you would give me a calendar, and several of the days, and say, you know, like a sale, say that, let's say a boutique does a sale, and we know we're going to do a sale, in the summer, we do it in the wintertime, it was several of the days, but they brought it down, we sign out, and they paid a small fee, we do some of that, it's absolutely fine, it just absolutely, it's just, it's a little bit of work to do that, to get you to the occurrence, but like, whatever, like, down a day, but you have, you have some of the days you want to put out, now, those people would know, like, I know that I went to a sale, I know it's not a sale, so let's say, you know, two weeks each time I go out there, so that's an opportunity, now we have a little more oversight, I think we're focusing on, like, how to get those, your business is second, man, because I know that they, they bring the flags up, they're bringing their banners, like, everything up, and we need to, like, throw a border to that, yeah, camps be free for all, it was not fair to all of them, so, but we can probably look into something for, for existence, businesses, too. All right, any other projects that are before the signing board at this point, any new ones? Any projects, um, that was, yeah, I'm doing, yeah, in Cameroon.
Review for daycare soon, just brings the money, I guess. Where is that? Comic road.
What road? Um, well, oh, number 30, yeah, oh, yeah, there's some vegan donuts.
Um, can I ask you a question? Yeah. So I was meeting with Russell's a couple weeks ago, and Dan was saying that people often to they cross from the local over to Rosos at that stoplight and they run around there and try and find a bike path and he was wondering he's like it's kind of a safety issue and we're often helping people not like a bad way but he is just wondering if it would be possible or size it's like 10 guys it's soft but please let me get a big look at you through yeah even I'm on Jesse's right that it you know that I forget where their property ends or starts if it's close enough but yeah just to have me both places yeah I don't know but he's like yeah before they cross the street exactly you know yeah every place is where the bike wouldn't bike more power and they just completely stop it was like a wall and like well I guess it means advice to us to please stop turn around but this this bike trail head yeah went down through Milford and then it stopped but there's actually another to connect or you have to actually get off walk around have a turban get back on my trail it was actually pretty confusing if you didn't know where you're going yeah it's actually a piece of kid I'll get around there's a tooth to the tail the other bike trail but then I finished on that piece of it you have to come off the road if you walk off and then walk around a building and then go back on it's like yes this should be an easier way it was people just don't know I'm sure that this is like a longer thing but just wanted to put it in your brain I think it would be awesome to have like rail trail access over by the radio you can get it by the wayland mini mart I don't know if we would ever put a sign there there is access it's not it's not permanent access but there's access and then you have these and also you will also look at when do they uh zoning is creating some kind of extra access potentially so someone can actually like a sign from 20 I think would be nice people are excited you can is this there's a way to get on the road this is a full path and so obviously created but for the owner but it's not an official one but there's a way because yeah I think for now there's also a way up the hill too yeah yeah I just think like some type of signage um 20 telling people how to get off the show I think what this would be great when we actually have the retro hey which is probably next spring so I think that is the time to kind of like spring 27 28 27 27 27 what's that paid I think this all we're talking about is probably going to have to do all this so I think you're slightly had the game but like when when we roll that out every time to blow these signs up because I'm like I so I think I think we're gonna you know a lot of times away but once you guys do that I mean I'm sure definitely signs up and do it then because once it's paid then in the tracking they take the other way around this off like they didn't even talk about it I don't know if the last moment putting a few signs into the trail about all the things that are available right outside the trail like food yeah that's the question if we're allowed to do that because we have actually yeah actually Larry might know that you might if you want to find out I mean you know don't want to offer like shortcuts but even if we're not allowed in the trail we might be allowed into properties next door yeah and because they benefit they might want to do right like if I'm the little Mart yeah I would want to put like a little sign maybe like not disclose with the name of the business just saying food and drinks yeah we're talking about signs on the back of the building because they have actually a blank wall so between them and the pizza then they could actually you could actually see it so if he was posting just sort of temporary like you know signs and because I usually walk so whenever I go to terrain I walk back home and I take those shortcuts I mean yeah they're basically like barely walked all right so what quite a time today then you you probably have to go to CBA or someone good now today for a silent attack you know really mini Mark or yeah well wait we have an auto or something that's not probably the best time or you know the future future food at Santana you know you know new food option whatever we call it you know I mean because one puts on there you know you know you know you know you know you know but we have the CBA but you can do that we'll be a secondary sign and that's not any different than any other trail you see on in your town on you know we spray racial having signs in the backs so it's one I have to stop so we'll see you know down the doors so we can change the zone we can change the zoning besides we are more people can still today do it they're just a bad for an additional sign which is reasonable about the question okay so we had so joint finance any ADC recommendations um so it's due to meet with Carl I had to cancel unfortunately so we're rescheduling um I know they're going to get really busy starting relatively soon but I think they've now gotten their new members on board and I've gotten through that that initial onboarding which is good so it's a good time to meet um meals tax and split tax rate so we have a split tax rate I did not send my comments I forgot but have you guys gotten comments to to Jeff if not okay so I'll re-circuit and just so we definitely do
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um one of the things that I was thinking about is I actually looked at somebody's commercial properties actual tax bills over the last 10 years it's gone up maybe 10 and in fact sometimes their tax bills have gone down so like their tax bills are like at 10 ours have gone up like this right right we should absolutely have that graphic because that's the compelling thing of everyone should be paying their fair share right so by boosting them up a little bit so mathematically it even makes sense so I think that's an important thing um so yeah so if everybody can take a look at that and get comments to Jeff so that we can finalize for next time or did you sound a little I think you actually brought it to the meeting didn't you I think I emailed it I did you know I who decided to cancel you know Ed, Jeff, Sam and others did we get back to the meeting in August, uh we did. uh i i can resend it this is a very fancy print out that's not my printer so we printed it here yeah yeah um so i'll take a look if i don't have it i'll i'll yeah yeah i'll scout out okay just so we can research what are we trying to get that in front of uh well i mean it can be voted on at any time because it's only town um right it's just a select board yeah yeah so that's good that sooner rather than later because they would like end of year is when they remember they were saying they agree with that but so for the real tactic i think about like san antonio's when i ran my site for attack which is not the same and also like well it takes him like july terrain world like in korea so when you get the data for september the one i just got the i think i just got the date i just looked at one site recently posted i'm not sure if it's like our first post like they put the number on first and then come back and update it or is there the final number on the meals tax how do we get that one pager ideally we could be submitting both at the same time i don't know what that's at is that who's doing that i think robert you were going to send the data yeah and i was going to make the one yeah sure so do we have the dating yet no should we wait to incorporate the september numbers it's on the website you can find it i can send the website back it's there we should try to submit at the same time yeah i did went and comment to the select board just about uh the route 20 and the outreach to the businesses um and so just saying it's been you know it's gone well we've reached out to you know we now have contact information for 90 of the property owners we probably met with 80 of them so it's and there's been really good feedback that people are you know first like what why is the town showing up on my doorstep but after that they're just like this is great they're just so happy to have them and they're just like oh my god they're just like this is great they're just so happy to have them and they're just like oh my god information because before they're like all i get from the town or tax bills and bad news right so it's just like they were very happy to hear about terrain and hear about all the stuff so i just done that a public comment just so they had that feedback um but they were wanting us to come back in some time you know so if we do this at the beginning of november and we come in and then are able to present you about 10 or 15 minutes i think those two would be really good to put on there okay docket so another time i was looking to the june split no tough split tax rate and i was like oh my god i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i'm not going to just franklin i only know they have an insurance in their uh town uh minister's office deal with that whole presentation for the town council so i don't think there's probably videos more online where franco is also moving into it well they had some at some interns my high school interns moving to it how do you know this um i used to learn franklin and sorry i saw that i saw on facebook there was a picture in an article well these are his uh interns whatever whatever what They have all these numbers on the screen and stuff. They did a whole presentation for the town council, so some of the towns are looking into it, too, but I don't know what the results were, but... So, Jeff, if you want to do the one-pager circulated to everybody, you can take individual comments back and then we'll discuss it in the next meeting. So, yeah, kind of tackle both and be ready to go for select boards. Okay. All right. Are you going to reach out to the select board to get on their documents? Uh, yeah. So I'll double back, because Harold was mentioning it. She was wanting to have us come in. Would that be... Do you know what the date would be? I don't know. I don't know. Uh, let's see. So, the new projected data is the meeting with Carl, so hopefully we'll get that underway and finally voting. We've talked about several of these things, but town center, so approval status we talked about, shared streets, their agreement got done. Yes! Oh, my God. The longest-running EDP... I don't know, and Tom just dropped off. So it had to... For them to sign it, it had to have gotten approved by the state. So I think now it can then go back up to bid. They're doing a booking window. It's like, hey, remember? 2021. Okay. Sorry. You got this grant. Good. Like, in the beginning, they just... Excellent. Excellent. So hopefully by next spring. Like, how long is this? But I think we got the grant in 2022. 2021. Yeah. It's been, like, five years. It's like, five years later. Never let good money fall off the table. All right. Signs we talked about. Route 20, the corridor conditions cleanup. So ongoing. I was literally just talking with Mr. Kim yesterday, who owns 4U and the dry cleaners. He's like, oh, I'm getting ready to order my signs. I said, you know, we might be able to have a discount for you. I was like, and by the way, remember, you have to file this. Like, do I have to? I'm like, oh, okay. You can file it. It's a lot of fortune. Do you think you would want some design help? So, well, that, I want him to send it to us, and then we can kind of suggest and kind of help him out. So, yeah. Do you want pressure treated plywood? Or vinyl? Ripley. But no, so that's good. So, and then we need to reconnect with Maple Tree Landscape, with that building, a lot of the signage, all this stuff. So you, Skate, do you want to update what you're doing and the timeline? Yeah. So I reached out to three different sign companies. Alpha Graphics doesn't feel like they could help us. But I got some quotes from Signorama, and they seem really interested and really eager to help. I know that this isn't our decision, so we can just send the information to the business owners. But the quotes I got back from Signorama seem really reasonable. I mean, I'm not a sign expert, but for like one sign, including installation, it seems like it's seven. I think it's $700 to $900, which seems pretty reasonable to me. And so they seem like really eager to help. And then I'm waiting to hear back from another company, Framingham, to see what their thoughts would be. I was supposed to send a couple, too. I just reminded, so I'm going to do that. I have two that are like probably a step up from Signorama, but not, you know. Not super high end. Yeah, not like a national firm. So I think I got a couple that might be in the sweet spot for someone who wants to do something. Some channel letters or something like that. If you want to send it to me, I have like a PDF with all the pictures and everything. I have two that should definitely be on that. And the one at Town Center you use, Town Center applicants are using is not local, so don't look at that one. That one, I think, is at Chicago because one of the partners is at Chicago. So I think that's probably the one that they use. But the designer is probably also pulling way more than Signorama. Just guessing. And Alpha Graffics didn't want to do it because they couldn't install? Was that their, because they just produced, right? Yeah, they just felt like it was out of their field. Okay. But even if just like a signed price, like just the materials, because for example, Mr. Kim will want to install them himself. Just put them up, right? So they could just produce the signs as I recall. I'm feeling they're just limited. Really? I don't know. Interesting. I feel like I've gotten some. Depends on who you get. It was before they were all open. So it's all the person on the other end of the valve. Exactly. Okay. Just make sure they know they need to get a co-design report and also their product. So you can't just buy it, put it up. Right. Or I will see it. I will drive by it and I will see it and remember which sign it will go on. Okay. So curb cut and sidewalk engineering. So the RFQ got put out. There's a small working group that's looking at the proposals. There were two. We'll just get feedback to Tom Holder. They actually. So they pretty quickly want to select one. Interesting. I didn't realize that they just put out a request for qualifications and then they have the ability to negotiate the contract from there. I was like, oh, so I don't take those. I was like, wow. So they can do that with engineering, which is great. So there's no second round. But there is a process of getting them under contract. That'll probably take a period of time to happen. So hopefully by year end, it should be resolved and under contract. Then we can start in 2027. So terrain, the community open house. I was there early in the day. Did you go later? Like 6.55. It was like 90 minutes of traffic driving out of Boston. I was like this. Yeah. Yeah. I had already been in there anyway. Yeah. Was it? Well, it was already kind of gone at that point. Yeah. Yeah. So I was there early. And then by 3.30 ish when I had to leave, people were definitely coming in. So yeah. Yeah. So I think it was, it was well attended. But I was kind of curious. A lot of people had signed up for the board of five sign up. I'm curious. 150, 175. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't go in, but I was there around 5.30 ish. There was a good, maybe like, I don't know, 15, 20 people in front of them getting in, getting out. So it looked pretty busy. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that was sort of prime time, but I didn't see it. But I was there at six o'clock. Oh. And there was probably like 10 people in there. Okay. It was funny. It's a tail end. Yeah. Yeah. So it's really nice. Well done. Actually, like the Browseweeds are nice too. Well, whatever. The bridal and the group reading. Yeah. Yeah. That was really, really nice. That was the Browseweeds, the monkeys. It was like five or six places filled for them to get ready to the air. I mean, this is a lot. So unassuming in that little building, those knots falling over. I know. Robert, are they going to do outdoor, some outdoor dining next year? Good question. I thought that was in the original plans. Everyone keeps asking me. I'm like, I couldn't. That is phase two. Okay. I just, I don't know when. Is that out towards the golf course that way? I thought it was supposed to be underneath the trellis originally. I think they changed that. Yeah. But it might be some outdoor dining. I think. I think Josh Fossett will probably sort of a wagon. Wait, outdoor dining for the event space? No, outdoor dining for the restaurant. Yeah. It's something they could get around. It sounded like they haven't applied for it, but I would assume they'll have to try it off the ground for us and then come back. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know. Well, it sounds weird because with the event, the bride and groom can go and walk through and stand in front of the fence, but guests can't go because you're literally walking through the back of the house, the road and dog. So that's quite, I think they kind of got, they wanted to kind of move in and see how it went and what they want to do from there, but they were so laser focused to get it done. And then Jeff, you had said around that the building's only for sale, like quick flip. Yeah. So yeah. Wow. That's intended to building long-term asset. Right. And so they bought for whatever, put in a few million bucks and yeah, did well. So yeah. Which one's for sale? What's that? Which one's for sale? The building's for sale. Grossman is selling. Correct. Yeah. With the, with the lease in place. You know, it's just a, it's a performing, somebody will buy it for their. Yeah. Sometimes it's fun to like, whatever. I don't think they're going to get that with the interest rates right now. I know, I know. I know your rates are not going in the right direction. Yeah. I mean, if it did sell for that, that would be a decent, decent increase on the tax rolls because I mean, it's probably, did they get it? It's, has it been reassessed for around six million at this point? I don't know where it is, but I, I can't even. I think the last time it was sold, it was six though. Well, you were saying it, it sold. It sold in 2000. 2012. Yeah. But then it just sold like a year ago. Yeah. Yeah. For around the same price. So it should have the value of the improvements in it. Correct. Because all the tax. No, not yet. So they eventually will, right? I don't think that's caught up yet. Yeah, because this tax year would have been January 1st of this year, when they were in fairly, so it might not be until the next tax year. So, okay. Playground, we talked about liquor licenses increased. We should have asked Tom, but ultimately that article I sent around, it's so depressing, but it's so wet. Welcome to Massachusetts. There was an article about liquor licenses and how wacky it is that the state house has to control it. But yeah, I didn't realize there were like 20 or 25 towns who do control their own. Cambridge, yeah. What? Like how is that? It's a very slow process. I've been dealing with it for, advocating for 10 people to ask for 10 and asking, and we've gone through so much. It works for them. Yeah. Creative map. It's circling. Where are we going to put 10, 10, uh, liquor license? Like, can you just give us 10 liquor license and we'll do it? Like, so yeah, so we made a whole GIS map of circling here and the Route 20. We, we, uh, we have a Route 20 that's then clues that can tell us like, oh, that's like all the way down to Route 20 to, to the Bistro. And then we have a East Wayland that has, um, the Business A, Business B, where the, um, gas station is, all we do is farm. And then we have South Wayland. We have the Considere Village. So there's three areas in town that we're asking for up 10 liquor license. Um, I expect to get hopefully seven, eight of them, but they have to use within the next three years and they go away. So, um, but, but Town Center wants to use it. They're ready to use it. They, they have a tenant ready to go. So. So there's no extra for Town Center if they have a tenant right now? There's none right now. Yeah. Terrain is the last one because, uh, Takara took, took it to live with them. Okay. Even a beer and wine left? Yeah, beer and wine. Okay. Does not, does not fall in liquor. Yeah. And then they're, they're looking for, they want to fall in liquor for something. Uh, uh. Sorry. Okay. All right. Uh, Infographic 6. Katie, I met your grievance when I was doing the minutes. I was like, you and I were good to get together. We'll set up a time before I leave and we'll just kind of. Okay. Perfect. Um, because Nini apologized. She couldn't be here today. So, um, we will definitely get that one moving. Um, Wayland Business Association 2.0. Karen, you want to update? It's happening. Um, I had them back and forth with Jesse. He's like gung-ho. We have a form ready for folks to fill out where the idea is, um, now that we have a lot more email addresses too, that will be super helpful, especially once you are not in Town Center, but on the fringes of Town Center or South Wayland. Um, so Jesse will distribute to his tenants. We can distribute to contact, uh, information that we've gathered. And then, um, basically there's, there's two things you can opt into. One is to kind of be one of the leaders to kickstart it. And one is just to kind of join. Um, and I sat down with Dan Skehan from Russell's and it was interesting to get the perspective of a business owner and like, um, just like, you know, what is the goal of this? And, you know, obviously we're not going to run it. This is something that we're going to turn over to the business owner. So we are trying to just, you know, be there. And, you know, we're trying to be the catalyst to get everybody kind of string everybody together and see if they can, uh, you know, self-organize. Um, he, I, you know, he shared with me a bit about what the old Wayland business association, how it used to function and how his, you know, his grandparents and things like that were involved and there's all different ways to set these up. He was asking, will it be paid? You know, we'll, you know, et cetera. I said, that's going to be up to you all. And again, we're just trying to string together the contact points. Um, and, um, one of the most important things to him was that feeling like this could be a really great communication pathway from the businesses in town to town leadership. So he wanted to kind of really make sure that town leaders, IE, Michael McCall select board, et cetera, are on board with this and would want to communicate with them. And so I showed him that was the case. And, um, so I am going to go in front of his select board, November 4th, one of those, the first week of November. I spoke to Carol Martin about it. He was very enthusiastic about this just to kind of formally tell them, like, this is what we're working on and this is what we expect. And, you know, just, uh, have them verbally, uh, uh, share their thoughts and enthusiasm for, for the initiative. Um, so, yeah, yeah, I think we're ready to execute on the form. I don't have access to those business email addresses that you guys have been getting. Yeah. So it's just, yeah. Would we want to maybe make another new spreadsheet with some of that info scraped out, but then start adding other businesses and constituent to that? Or? Yeah, I don't know. What, what are you scraping out? I feel like, or would we want to keep all that info in there? Like the tenant? And landlord? I think you do. Cause we want the property owners and the business owners, right? Get them both there. But you're right. We do have, you know, constituent is sort of the big black hole over there. So we need to start reaching out and getting, reaching out to some of these businesses. So. As we're in there, should I try and get them? Like if I'm in a business? Yeah. Anytime you are. Yeah. You're already in there anyway, then find out, you know, if it's the business, find out who to keep this, but also ask them who their landlord is and the landlord to contact them. Cause that'll, that'll be the trip. Who was the other guy in South Wayland? Was the, someone in the, someone in the accountant's building or something like that? Yeah. To get involved? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just thinking. Yeah. So if you have that, let's make sure he's on there. Cause if there's a working group to get it going, then you should definitely be able to pull some people in. Right. Do you want to make a new document? I can. What do you usually use when you're interfacing for emails? I just have, so every, you know, all the forms just spit out into a Google sheet, all the data that people input. Okay. I can give you an Excel sheet and you got it. Got it. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, we'll start doing that. I'll keep it separate for the Route 21s, but then we can, we'll probably just have a couple, the rest of them. Yeah. All the rest of them. Is there any reason why they can't all live on the same sheet? It's just like, there's a dropdown. I don't know if we want to do Route 20 versus South Wayland, like there's some regional indicator, but. Oh, we could sort it. Yeah. I just feel like keeping everything together is the right way to go. Yeah. Cause we'll have to send for just Route 20 quite often. So. Yeah. So make sure that's easily, easily sortable. Okay. Yeah. So anytime anybody's in any business, like particularly kind of covered a lot of this corridor, but yeah, the rest of Wayland, give me your email. We don't have a full list of all the businesses in Wayland, right? We do. I mean, you can go to them and we don't have email addresses. Exactly. That's the problem. And often it's just an LLC and it's an address and you're just writing a random letter, you know, it's just. Last summer, I think I shared it with you. Yeah. And I scraped all the businesses from Google maps. So there's also a lot of like businesses like mine registered in my home address, but I don't have. Yeah. You ask the town clerk and the list is a mile long, but it's everybody's LLC. You know, it's just like, I don't know if it's a sizable business or not. You kind of look at the address and you're like, wow. So. And I'm feeling like maybe some of those people might be interested in this as well. Other than like people who actually have a physical brick and mortar. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How do we. I don't know. I think we definitely need an article in town. I was just in the post. Right. Yeah. So, and something on Facebook. I mean, I could run, maybe I had the list. I set up an agent to see all the web for any info. Yeah. It would be annoying, but can it be done? Sure. Yeah. You do. So you'd actually called it. No. No. You actually just give it the list of the businesses. Yeah. Just searches online for. Yeah. Yeah. It patches an email or a phone number or something, and then just adds it there. Right. Well, should we do that? And then add another tab in the search sheet? Or is that great? I'll look into it. I'm like, yeah, there's certain people, even if you get, you know, 30% of them. I mean, it's, it's worth getting at least those people. Right. I mean, for example, like we're wrong. We're either at Millport. I think there's somebody who owns like a fitness company and I see it because they have like a van or something. Yes. Right. So if you, if you look at it in Google maps without even searching, you can see like a little dump on that point. Right. Exactly. But, but that person might be interested in something like this. Right. If they're established up on Google maps, then yeah. So that doesn't take any. Oh, no. No. Actually, I think it automates it. Like Google just finds it through postal mails and all that. You don't even need to register it yourself now. All right. It's like in my office building over there, you know. There's probably 10 different businesses, but they don't necessarily show up. I think those are the more public facing ones. But, but yeah, there's like if you're bored one day, I think I had a file before it might be out of date, but the town clerk can give you a list of every single business. It's just, it's quite amazing. I mean, you can take that list and then just let the agents. Okay. I'll try to find that. Okay. And the postpartum billing department survey. I looked at it. Yeah. I have some comments and volunteer rights and I have actually like comments, not about the survey, but actually about the whole process itself as well. Okay. So if you can get comments to Nini for next time, she apologized. She's going to be here. But I realized I part of it permitting guide and then I even put on the GIS, but it's all sort of part and parcel. So I sent around your link. I apologize. It's been a while. I can see it. But when we're done, if we have like a few minutes, we can look at it. Yeah. Yeah. So why don't we, we look at it, the permitting guide. It was interesting. How did it come up? They went to central mass, the graph. Yes. Yes. So they got a grant. They worked. They got a grant. Central mass planning commission. Yeah. Yeah. Metro West. Yeah. Whatever. But yeah. So they wrote their whole planning guide. But it's all online. It's quite interesting. So it might be a good model. Model. Model to use, essentially. They're going to use it. I don't know what they're going to send. So. What's that? They're going to need to schedule. Yes. Yes. So when I met with them about the signage, I knew they'd mention that. So that's the question is, you know, she would love to pull it up. So we got what was going to do and what we did. So. Yeah. I knew what he was going to do. Yeah. Just go out. So for us to see your screen, since you have your laptop open, do you want to share? And personally, if you log into Zoom, we should be able to. Oh, yeah. Share a screen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This should. I don't know. But if not, if you click on the link that Ali sent while he . It would be pretty cool. Like the zoning map is finally interactive, which is. Right. Let's see what we've done here. All right. So. Let's see if we can share. Yep. Oh, you can share? Yeah. Seems like I can. I didn't even have the authorize. All right. Here we go. Yeah, it's a little dark, so not really the best video to look at it. OK, so it arrives with a big disclaimer. So let me just first let you know what I did. We had that discussion about how we could get sites for redevelopment and all that. So this is basically a parcel-based interactive map that I put every available public data resource from MassGIS that I told it would be nice to have. The only additional thing we used from the town is the zoning layer. And they advised us that we don't do something public with all those layers. So this is not public yet, but you have access to a lot. And I don't think they should have a problem with just the zoning layer. Theoretically, it's public data anyway. So here's the thing. Here's what we could do. This lives online. It's fairly easy to update, actually. And it's no cost, believe it or not. So right now, it lives in GitHub. So this is our current parcel map, right? So what we could do is we could search by address here. Let me search my property. So you start searching with either the number or the name. Things will start populating, which is actually helpful. Here we go, 26 Mover Road. So it's highlighted right now. So if I go through the left panel, it's a very loaded panel. I'm going to show you other stuff as well. But if you go all the way in, it actually shows you how it is assessed, what are the interesting facts about the property. And it also gives you the base district zonings, what you can do versus what you can't. So anything you see, no, is not allowed by zoning. Anything you see, yes, is allowed by zoning. The TAU is, I think, the abbreviation I use for it needs to come to the town meeting. And it's a very good thing to get the special permit or stuff. So if there's a special permit, it actually pops up in here as well. Right. So the good thing about this is whenever we go to the overall view, we could just say, show me all the vacant land in the area, again, in Wayland. Show me all the single family land use so we could have things like that. Show me all the public and ZAM properties in the Wayland. And when you select them, these things actually update by itself. So 33.1% of the town area is basically exempt. So things like conservation, this, that. So we have quick views like that. And then on top of that, we also could do interesting things like we could map out based on zoning districts. We could map out based on the assessed values. These can all change. We could definitely update these. And then we can just say, OK, I want to do, I don't know, a restaurant as of right. So you can say, as of right, does anywhere allow restaurants? No. With special permit only, only in this district. So the only thing I couldn't incorporate yet is that special overlays, like overlay districts, because that's a layer I don't think we received. And I was like, OK, I can use the base zoning from the GIS department, but I should let them know that I want to use the special districts as well. And then I received more. More. So since I was like, I started it, I was like, OK, how do I understand if a property has development constraints or not? So this is the one that we're hopefully planning to move. Right? So if I go down the property again, it tells me that, yes, it is within the 100 feet of the wetland buffers. It's also within the 200 feet of wetland buffers. It doesn't actually intersect with a wetland, and it doesn't intersect with a water resource buffer, which is different than the wetlands. Things like ponds, aquatic life, and all that. Yeah. So it's not part of the conservation, not part of the SIRC district. These things come alive if you click a parcel that has actually those. And then thanks to Becky's suggestion, I also added state's LIDAR data, the laser scan data for topography. So the mean slope of the property is like 28.9%. 90% of the property is within 42% of slope. So it gives you some statistics about how buildable these sites are as well. Can you overlay the topo map itself? Not yet, but I can. Yeah. Definitely, like, one for the contours, one for the map. Contours, it actually shows the .. So you can really quickly see what parts of your site are buildable, or if it drops off by 10 sands. So the good thing about this is it gives us actually a lot of things. Like, for example, if I want to see all the parcels that are removed where they intersect with a wetland, this is what we left wet. So these are the parcels that do not intersect with a wetland. And then if we want to remove even the parcels with 100 feet wetland buffer, we're like this. With the 200 feet wetland buffer, we're pretty much similar with the 100 one. And then we add the water resource buffer. We add the conservation area. We add the historic district. So pretty much only 22% of the is free of any constraints without topography. Wow. But I get a quick question. This is amazing. I've actually never seen a time with a, I've never been on a GIS system. It has this kind of, yeah, potentially going even a layer deeper. Let's say you were searching for multi-family parcels you could develop. Yeah. Can you actually go to how many units are allowed per acre? Can you like? We could program it, require an Excel table, that's it. Everything you see is basically pulling from the town's resources, right? So I didn't go and say for every parcel what we could build. Yeah. I just create relations with the tables. Yeah, yeah. If this is the zoning, read the parcels and what could be built from here. That's a great idea. Because like some people like some, the one place where there's sometimes a disconnect is like, you know, a town GIS will say, OK, it's in this zoning district. But then you have to like go and you have to pull like the zoning or charts like separately. Yeah. There's somehow like that can tie into this. Yeah. I was even, honestly, I was thinking to like, so I shared this with Thomas while we saw a glimpse of it and he was like, oh, my God, this is amazing. And I was like, yeah, I mean, if you ask for a consultant to do it, you would have paid thousands of dollars. You're lucky. Just my hobby. Anyway, so I think we can definitely add like a few sliders on it. I was even thinking for our like commercial tax base, like if we want to see like if we do a create commercial tax base, like, you know, we could affect the other property taxes because theoretically we can't change how much money the towns get out of tax, right? So the commercial increases, there would be a decrease in every residential property. So we can integrate something like that. We can say, OK, the 1% increase in the commercial tax would close. If you want to look at your own property would, you know, get you, I don't know, $500 every year. Well, that's that's that's the cherry on the top. If we go into the select board meeting with that data. Yeah. You know what? I don't see why not. I mean, it's it's it's it's just basic calculations in the back end. Right. Yeah. Anyway, so, yeah, I was going to share it with you guys as well. I told, you know, this would be a good upgrade. It's way more advanced than that. I mean, I am familiar with access to what we have. A lot of times I work with this is that I think they were good, but they were they belong to like the last decade of us. But, you know, there are a lot of times. That's what seemed that. Yeah, I I told this would actually help us to inform decisions about a lot of things. Yeah. So I didn't share it with the G.I.S. Department yet. Oh, we can see what they think. So we shared with Tom Holder, Tom. Now, Tom from the select board. Oh, Tom, OK. All right. He was like, oh, we just is a great planning tool as well. I'm like, yeah, I mean, what do you share with me? I mean, I used to share with my friend who shared with me and talk over this. So, you know, I'm going to talk about his head. Yeah, just to talk about it. We see that. I mean, so I have a wish list in here once I speak with everyone as well. So the things that are not here yet is permitting. So theoretically, I want you to be able to click the property and see the active permits on the property. I think it could be done because the town website can be searchable, right? That's why I said I'm going to comment. So I realized that you should exactly search with the address that is coded into. So let's say my property is 26 Milberg Road. If I search 26 Milberg Road, nothing comes up. It has to be R.D. So they need to do some upgrades on their end so we can use it as an API, maybe not even an API. Could be literally like a direct search, like a web link generator, but. Yeah, I think we can. Kickstart a digital transformation that would definitely help. Every department, I feel like, including you guys, so. Thank you. Awesome. So my next thing is like a brain, it's like a planning, planning, zoning brain. And I have a few questions to ask you, but I think, yeah, this would help. I mean, eventually I want to be able to go to the health department as well and say, how about we scan all your little diagrams of septic systems and title five? And maybe. I mean, think about it. If you're a real estate person and you want to show a property in here and just go into there and see everything about the property, it will just buy a lot of time. Great to interface just with public record what properties are for sale. Yeah. Is that in there or no? No, not yet. Because that's not town data, but you might as well. I would maintain this going forward. The system. Maintains itself. I mean, in theory, it could maintain itself. So the way it works right now, I'm going to be very little test technical. So there's a file type called Jason, which is good for browsers. So Jason's could be anything. It could be a map. It could be an Excel file and this and that. Right. So I'm not a complete programmer, but I would say halfway there. I don't speak. So this is built in a language called JavaScript, but the backend is Python. I can speak Python. I'm pretty good in Python. I can speak JavaScript, but definitely be right on it. So the way we would configure it would be with the towns. It. There would be some shared, maybe literally Google spreadsheets that the program automatically commerce and pushes them as like readable JSON files. I think it's very easy. Just every department can actually update their own one. And maybe they will say, okay, every month we will push an update. So it will just update itself every month. And currently, like I said, it's all in public domains and get up. So the town doesn't even need to. It's like the building department. All the permits and applications are all online. Does it automatically feed in or do they have to push once a month? Yeah. I don't know how their system works. I think their interface probably puts it there real time because I applied for a permit. And the day I got it, I checked that it was there. So yeah. But yeah. Would this be on the access to the time website or would it be an own external like. That's I guess. A town decision. I mean, I we get like a nice domain name and then it could be accessed through the town website as well. And I think that would be nice. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, that's where it is right now. So you can change the base map as well. You can see like aerial imagery and all that. Very cool. Okay. So yeah. So click on it. Look around. Kind of fun. Yeah. Look at your own property. Look at properties. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Excellent. All right. End of the agenda. Anything else we didn't cut? Not that we can discuss it anyway. Um, just one quick note for me again as well. I happened to meet the, um, I know from the Weyland public library. Oh, I've just needed it. Yeah. she and I had a nice chat about the library and I, so apparently they spoke with the Bistro, but they agreed not to do anything until it opens. And I think you and I chatted, I had some ideas about like how they could integrate. I shared it with her. She really appreciated it and said, she will share it with the library's director for us. So I told them we see a lot of opportunity. And then I had this idea of, well, the library, the Bistro and then maybe the gift shop, the not-for-profit could be like a nice triangle in there. Yeah. Long-term. Yeah. And going back to those signs, I told them if you actually had a sign that points out to libraries saying, oh, there's a public bathroom and all that. They were, I think, willing to do a bike rack and stuff as well. I told them it would actually help to have like a little bike station in front of it that people can, compared to their bikes because they already have it inside. If you go to the library and ask for a bike pump, they will actually give it to you. It's in the down around the kids' room. You know where those bags are for the kids that know that? There is a room in there that has, the library lends out like a lot of tools. Library of things. Library of things. Exactly. Yeah. But it's just buried down in their website. But you did talk about it like a regular sign. Was I talking to you about that? There's a quite like, basically when you're in, the intersection of, you know, where 126 peels off from 27, there is no sign. Yeah. Facing that direction at all for the library. There is nothing saying it's the library. The only thing that says it's the library is when you're driving past on the top of the building in the corners. Not a single sign says Wayland Public Library. And if you had a sign outboard of that parking lot, then all of a sudden that parking lot would feel like the library. Because right now it feels like the bike path. Yeah. So it's just like, so if you have something there before they had a sandwich board, they always, once again, one of these sandwich boards, it looks like it's from Costco. You know, it's like, but how do you work in something that, you know, gives them an opportunity? You know, this is the event of the week, you know, whatever. Exactly. It's just, there's no sign, right? They're kind of crazy. And I know it's a mess because National Grid is working hard. Yeah. It's a mess. But yeah. And I told her, I don't know who the jurisdiction of Robert might know better, but in future, maybe we would have some crazy ideas about painting the, the sidewalks or kind of like the crosswalks so that people understand that that intersection is like tinks, right? When you stop in the red light, you can look at the library, you can look at the bistro and say, okay, this could be a destination for the next time I'm around with my kid and all that. And it will calm down the traffic as well. That's, that's a crazy intersection because I typically bike and that's the worst intersection, eight crossing. But anyway, so they were like, she was very open to it. She's like, it's great to hear voices from outside the library because she said, you know, they, they have some ideas. And I, I read through their plan as well. So the library apparently has a 2030 plan. So I gave them a few suggestions. I don't know if it will go anywhere, but I think a big sculpture would be cool. Something like, you know, Wayland or exactly. I had it. You're like, I think we're going to do it, right? We have an art thing in the high school. Absolutely. I mean, I see like, there's so much potential. I even told her that, you know, you can call me as the crazy guy living. Next to the library is like, I know you don't want to share the parking spaces, but maybe if you do like kids activities on Saturdays, people can drop off their kids. If it is a drop off event, like a team event, maybe, and then they would be allowed to park because they can go on it. And the best for us, I could be like, I mean, it would be, wouldn't be great. Like if you have like an hour free of kids and there's a restaurant right next door. So, oh, it's a good thing you weren't in the town when I'm turned down $10 million for a new library. I don't think you would have been able to do that. I would have been very happy anyway. So I had like an informal kind of like chat with her. And like she was, they were, she said that these are all great things. They're also thinking about things. So hopefully when that restaurant or a restaurant opens up. Yeah. I know they're very proprietary about their park and they're sort of, you know, they're just tired of kind of all the bike path parking there, but now that it's signed at town center and they should literally put it to go park at town center right now, it just says library only, but yeah. I mean, even think about it because you need to register for all these events. If they, I don't know, create maybe like an in-house rule of the first 10 registrants would get parking or something like that. And if the Bistro at least a pigeon, like I don't know, offer maybe a 5% discount of free dessert or something. I don't know. I send them as I showed her, there are actually a bunch of examples throughout the country. Let libraries have partnerships with the local restaurants and cafes. Yeah. And she said, I like that concept. There's probably a highly overlap that they're book lovers, right? It's just like, it's that's the field. I mean, we talked about, yeah, I was like, even, you know, you could have, like, you could probably find a small business who's willing to sponsor like a library cards, like buying 30, 40 books. Right. And then the library can create the books. So tell the business to buy, then they could have a little stamp. So it's hard for a library to create like a check, like a, it's both check out in an offsite building, but maybe they're just books that are given by local businesses and that they have their logo and the library can just say, these are the great books to read. And here's our book cards. Well, at this point you can even, you can check out on your phone. I do it when library. So why couldn't you just have a remote and just have a scanner? And it's the same thing. You don't have to have like, I mean, I think I made her. So that was good. I don't know the bistro part of things. So, it seems like there's still doing work. Yeah. I heard something. They want to be opening up November, December. Have you heard of it? Was open the other day I was biking and the guy was working inside. It doesn't look like this. There's no way there's barely anything done in the interior and everything is like, like in bare wood shape, they're scraped and all that. But I would say like, it's been struggling. It's been coming back to Olivia. He's going to consume. So I read that. How soon? They went about, they're talking about doing work. I didn't tell him this mom coming out. What is that Liberty pizza? Oh, we're pretty good for this month. I actually have seen some, yeah, like somebody working inside. Yeah. It's a good, so I think about the way. Yeah. Do we know what's going to come next to the post? So it's supposed to be a convenience for the dry cleaner is supposed to come back. And so one of the one I had to partner space there. No. So they, they had, I think two other empty, retail space is where the auto body used to be. Well, what are the report? At least I don't know. Robert, can you write back to Elizabeth? Yes. I was just going to say, do we have the date for Russell's for the one 50 for November coming up? Yeah. Yeah. Just speak to what day you want to do. She was suggesting the 14th. Can you write it back? Robert? Yeah, definitely lock in a date.
And the question is with that, she had mentioned that somebody like the governor or Lieutenant governor will show up for any businesses over a hundred years old. Can you find that out the party for Michael's office or whatever, but this may come up again with other businesses, but but that's what Elizabeth had said that I was like, I did not know that, but sounds about right. Always a good, good experience. Right. Yeah. That comes to weigh on, but it hasn't worked out yet. Yeah. Cause a little bit older in your town and show up. Yeah. So it'll be after the election. So they'll be in decompressed mode. So you never know. He might get lucky. But Lieutenant governor Driscoll is really interesting person. So even if we can't get the government, I'd be great to have history of bears sailing and stuff. So yeah. Okay. So next month is November, which is shocking. So we had set aside the 13th. That's still work for everybody.
All right. So we will see. Everybody then. All right. Do I have a motion to adjourn all in favor? Hi. Hi. Hi. Becky over the transfer.
Sorry to appreciate the transfer.
Thanks. Beth.