January 7, 2026 – Conservation Commission – Video & Transcript
January 7, 2026 - Conservation Commission
seeing that it is 6 32 and we have a quorum i'd like to begin the conservation commission
meeting um first january what 7th 2026 um second paragraph this meeting may be recorded
and if recorded will be made available to the public on wake cam as soon as possible after the
meeting public will be excluded from the executive sessions by the way lynn that's a way better way
to say that than he had before i'm glad they whoever wordsmith this this time uh in pursuant
chapter 2 of the acts of 2025 this meeting will be conducted in person and or via remote access in
accordance with the applicable law if this meeting has only remote access no in-person attendance by
members of the public will be permitted if this meeting has remote access one may watch or may
participate remotely with the meeting link that can be found at the following link but when required
by law or allowed by the chair persons wishing to provide public comment or otherwise participate
in the meeting may do so at the meeting location in person or remote access as applicable as applicable
public comment should be limited to two minutes per person with that uh looks like all of us are
remote so linda hansen cliff lewis lisa aubin barbara hall luke leger jenny brown and myself are all
dialing in remote with that uh let's kick it off here um we are not doing the joint planning board piece
but let me at least open this up so we can continue this is uh essentially 2a 37 45 47 waltham road
wayland mass is also known as the carroll school d-1046 it's a continued request for determination
filed pursuant to wayland's wetlands and water resource protection bylaw and the protection act
in chapter 193 submitted by the carroll school for the construction of a new school building
an associated parking area septic system and utilities at 37 39 and 45 waltham road and wayland
mass proposed work is partially within 100 foot buffer zone of a boring vegetated to wetlands property is
shown on assessor's map 5 lot 14 15 and 16. linda the applicant is requested to continue us until
january 28th meeting after 6 30. okay everyone make that motion yeah i move that we continue the hearing
under the state act chapter 193 and chapter 194 to january 28th after 6 30 pm thank you luke do i hear a
second second that sounded like babs roll call please luke lazier yes barbara howell yes jenny brown
yes lisa aubin yes cliff lewis yes and sean fairza yes folks um on to public hearings this is 3a
uh it's 108 lake shore drive in wayland mass dep file number 322-1042 it's a continued notice of
intent filed pursuant to wayland's wetlands and water resource protection bylaw and the
well protection act submitted by melissa haley for the prior unpermitted renovation work and
completion of said work at 108 lake shore drive in wayland mass the proposed work is within 100
feet of deadly pond and the property is shown on assessor's map uh 46b parcel 35 linda this applicant
has also asked for a continuance until june 28th meeting after 6 30 in january january wow
moved forward a little bit january 28th after 6 30. okay do i hear a motion please yeah i move that
we continue the hearing under the state act and chapter 194 to january 28th after 6 30 pm
can i ask a question on this before we vote yeah uh in our last meeting we someone was going to
talk to this person about who to talk to to figure out what to do has anything been done along those
lines or are we still at the same place we were well i communicated with doug dylan the applicant
the representative and he is going to ask his his um engineer to come up with a better stormwater
system awesome okay so that's what they're working on now that's why they asked for a continuance
thank you so much that's good okay i'll second uh thank you cliff roll call please look was here
yes barbara howell yes getting brown yes lisa aubin yes cliff lewis yes and sean fairs yes thank you
folks 3b 169 rice road in the wayland mass continued uh notice sorry dep file number 322-1053
continued notice of intent filed pursuant to wayland's wetlands and water resource protection
bylaw and the protection acts and the wayland's stormwater and land disturbance bylaw submitted by
st philip better for curious and the saint mean a coptic orthodox church uh for the work of ones at 169
rice road in wayland mass the proposed work includes a demolition of an existing church and construction of
three new buildings parking surfaces a courtyard of sports field the stormwater management systems
the project is within within a 200-foot riverfront area a 100-foot buffer zone of a boarding vegetative
wetland property is shown on the assessor's map 40 parcel 08 linda um i have uh the applicant has asked
for a continuance we are having an in-person meeting next week to discuss the off-site mitigation um
and any of the commission members is welcome to attend that's 11 o'clock at the town building but
they would like to do that linda um thursday at 11. this coming thursday uh not tomorrow but the week
from tomorrow oh we've been tomorrow okay i can't make that okay um and they have asked to continue till
march 4th okay is it my understanding i thought i read and at least because we had in some of the
the pre-read documents that they're now going to do everything in one phase is that that that's what
they're reflecting in in their response to responses yeah yeah that's how the planning how they're going
to get that all done in five years but that's another story yeah three years right well i think
the planning board decision is five years so that's where this came from is that i think the phasing they
wanted to eliminate and so they would get one decision from the planning board for the entire
project but i think even for maybe stormwater or wetlands regulations some of the peer review comments
were and maybe i'm getting confused because there were a lot related to zoning and planning boards excuse
me um where some of the information wouldn't be available until the later phases so i'm guessing now
that if everything's well we'll worry about that when the time comes but um okay dude so we want march
4th 4th after 6 30. i move that we continue this hearing under the state act chapter 193 and chapter
194 to march 4th after 6 30 p.m thank you luke do i hear a second second sound like lisa on that one uh
roll call please luke bajer yes barbara howell yes jenny brown yes lisa alvin yes cliff lewis yes and
sean fairza yes thank you folks on to 3c uh 67a loker street in wayland mass dep file number 322-1055
to continue notice of intent file pursuant to wayland's wetlands and water resource protection
bylaw and the wetland protection act submitted by matt o'connor for the demolition of existing barn
construction of a six unit compact apartment facility at 67a loker street in wayland mass the
property is shown on assessor's map 48 parcel 42 and is located within 100 foot buffer zone of a boring
vegetated wetlands and a 200 foot riverfront area linda the applicant has also requested a continuance
i believe what um he's been asked to do is file a site plan review with a planning board
um and that makes sense to do that first before they move on with conservation um so agree
is that genuine to 128 linda it's a january 28th yes okay do you want to motion anybody sure i move
that we continue the hearing under the state act and chapter 194 to january 28th after 6 30 p.m
thank you luke do i hear a second second thank you cliff roll call please luke was here yes
barbara hall yes jenny brown yes lisa albin yes cliff lewis yes and sean fair is a yes thank you folks
3d uh 68 lake shore drive uh do we have a d uh dp number on this melinda no we do not
okay uh on weyland's notice of intent file pursuant to weyland's wetlands and water resource
protection bylaw protection accident by jeremy jenkins for for the after the fact work performance
at 68 lake shore drive in weyland mass uh including installation of a floating dock uh gangway ramp
retaining wall patio repairs to the covered porch steps property shown on assessor's map 42d parcel 56
and is located within 100 feet of boring but to tell you the well end bank and land under water linda
i believe we have the homeowner here um i i was i was in conversation with his representative which is uh
kevin o'leary who said he was not available to 7 30. so i didn't know if you wanted jeremy do you want
to introduce the project or you want to just um ask us to continue to the next meeting i guess i was
going to ask your guys advice i mean do we need kevin for technical questions or um should i just
introduce the project and hear what you guys need i'm new to these things sorry well if i could maybe
if i may sean please since there's no dep file number sir we're going to have to continue the
hearing anyway um so it's really up to you if you want to give us an overview that's fine if you'd
rather just wait for kevin that's fine as well we're going to have to continue to our next year
uh looks like you guys have a short night let's just continue it to till we have kevin okay that'll
be to the 28th our next meeting date hopefully he can make it i have a quick question uh jeremy yeah
would it be possible to come and look at that i'd like to see what what's going on and you can't
see it all from the road of course um should i call you make an appointment or should i just
show up and have your dog bite me or something um no dog will bite you you're free free to come look
around anytime uh all right well i'll send you a note or something let you know that i don't there's
no reason i don't think you would need to be there i just don't want to be intrusive thank you okay fine
um awesome thanks jeremy um all right so we're doing continuous then for the 28th uh after 6 30.
okay can i have a motion please sure i move that we continue this hearing under the state act and
chapter 194 to january 28th after 6 30 p.m thank you luke do i hear a second second thank you cliff roll
call please luke lazier yes barbara hall yes jenny brown yes lisa aubin lisa whoop you're on mute
sorry yes um uh cliff lewis yes and sean fair is a yes all set we'll see you in a couple weeks thank
you both you're not doing dudley road or leeson lane or pine brook yep so yeah so that's no so now
we're on to four yep so four is a certificate of compliance uh it's for a dudley road and pine
brook uh d-1024 linda so the are we told the applicant or the representative not to no need to come
this was a gas line replacement on dudley road and it's done it's been paved over it's you know it's
completed um and i did talk to i did ask dpw about if they're fine with the the way this was paved
and i was told that they're going to do a water line next year or um or in the coming or this year
probably so the whole place is going to be ripped up again all right and paved over so that's efficient
is they know exactly where the gas line is now because there's a big strip of pavement there so what could go wrong all right so we're good then so we're looking for what's that yes yeah very much so all right so can i get a motion then for the uh certificate of compliance for dudley road and pine brook road please pine road so moved thank you luke do i hear a second second thank you cliff roll call please luke bajer yes barbara hall yes jenny brown yes lisa alvin yes cliff lewis yes sean fair yes and just to clarify this is under chapter 184 that we're the certificate compliance gotcha yep thank you uh we're on to five other five a is the return of performance guarantee for 142 gleason road and wayland mass dep file number 322-739 739 holy mackerel what year is this i don't know we you know they date back uh 20 years some of these do wow barbara you have the original file on this one i remember when they turned 100 we thought that was a big deal wow 2012 it says 2012. so yeah i mean we're we're going after you know we need to return a lot of these performance guarantees so again i think i mentioned this before the easiest ones are the ones that already have a coc and you know they were issued that was closure and for some reason they didn't get their performance bond back so now it's just a matter of trying to get through some of them that are like you know easy picking sort of so cool all right uh for i'll go with that and kind of get in a motion please for the return of the performance guarantee for 142 gleason road so moved thank you luke do i hear a second second thank you cliff roll call please uh luke lozier yes barbara hall yes jenny brown yes lisa alvin yes cliff lewis yes sean fairza yes thank you folks five b pine brook blockage issue linda i believe all of you received an email that was i forwarded from an abutter who was very concerned about how um there was changes to the outflow of the farm pond over a main stone there was also um boulders of big rocks put into the stream in order to block the flow and i think that's done had a serious um effect on pine brook itself and like i said i didn't realize that there was so much flow coming from that farm pond but i mean i think combined with the drought i think what we've had is some really low water in pine brook and you see it from um i mean sean's been remarking about that for a while years i've been talking about that yeah yeah um walking over walking over the boardwalk there in pine brook conservation area it's just it's unbelievably dry over there so um what i've done is i've asked our town um surveyor to go over there at some point some of the the rocks are actually looks like they're within the right-of-way of rice road and we would have access to that and we could we can remove those if they're within town property and if they're not we can identify what property they are on and then there's also weir that i guess blocks the flow of um the farm pond and i guess there's i'd like to get a good explanation of why that was done i mean why why they chose to um retain more water there and i think sean offered to um make make a uh contact dev hamlin and have a discussion about that right yep i'll call that let's listen to this clip have you i mean riparian rights have been contested for thousands and thousands of years i don't think we have any jurisdiction to regulate flows of streams well in this case we might it's dried up the wetland but you know that's sort of god's work and you know we can't demand that people release x number of cubic feet of water every month or every or anything yeah my dad was talking to me just kind of just kind of understand when i'm talking to dev and say hey did you did you know the effect of that yeah asking a question is perfectly fine yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he's he's pretty pro conservation so i thought yeah he's usually quite good yeah yeah um all right uh it is it is a cold water stream though you know it is it is an officially designated cold water stream pine brook is and the other thing we do is we do have a cr on this property so if the the baseline conditions have changed um from you know when the cr was first um signed and granted to conservation and to svt i mean i think we have a case we may have at least you know some issue there that you know it's the conditions have changed they need to go back to baseline right i know what's your thoughts luke yeah certainly if there's a cr on the property what you just said linda would be exactly right um and i think you know i understand what you're saying cliff i think every situation is different right so it's also conceivable if they went in and altered wetlands that led to this blockage uh without a permit then that you know that is something that's within our jurisdiction so i think what we're proposing here is exactly the right move yeah have a conversation and see what we can learn yeah deal with it from there yeah okay all right so i'll let you know how that what i learned from that um no topics on my end um don't end up when we get off real quick i do have to hop cpc is happening right now i have to hop into that after this i do a question before i get on that so i'll call you after this before i go to the cpc meeting um uh public comments i didn't see any hands correct okay um last thing babs how are we looking for the minutes uh of december 17th i was all right with them as if linda was gonna give him a look over and i made some minor edits you know just some wordsmithing for the most part not changing the contacts okay so we got barbara sample approving mails thoughts comments concerns on the minutes last all right if we don't have any can i get a motion to approve the minutes for december 17th 2025 please so moved thank you luke do i hear a second second thank you cliff roll call please luke lazier yes barbara howell yes jenny brown yes lisa aubin yes cliff lewis yes and sean fairs yes all right i think i think we're good anybody else time check oh boy that's close i'm going to go to the record for that one 652 linda have we done that before oh i have to go back to the records barbara barbara you must have never seen 652 right this is how fast we've done this by long shot 22 when i have the rope you wait a while barbara what did you say it was so short it's only on one page i know i love it we're setting records are you in charge of frightening people away hey let's keep it up one for one for the year good job thank you all right um um anybody else let's get a motion to adjourn for the evening and i'll hop into cpc so moved thank you luke do i hear a second second thank you cliff roll call please luke lazier yes barbara howell yes jenny brown yes lisa alvin yes cliff lewis yes and sean fairs yes we're adjourned
is they know exactly where the gas line is now because there's a big strip of pavement there so what could go wrong all right so we're good then so we're looking for what's that yes yeah very much so all right so can i get a motion then for the uh certificate of compliance for dudley road and pine brook road please pine road so moved thank you luke do i hear a second second thank you cliff roll call please luke bajer yes barbara hall yes jenny brown yes lisa alvin yes cliff lewis yes sean fair yes and just to clarify this is under chapter 184 that we're the certificate compliance gotcha yep thank you uh we're on to five other five a is the return of performance guarantee for 142 gleason road and wayland mass dep file number 322-739 739 holy mackerel what year is this i don't know we you know they date back uh 20 years some of these do wow barbara you have the original file on this one i remember when they turned 100 we thought that was a big deal wow 2012 it says 2012. so yeah i mean we're we're going after you know we need to return a lot of these performance guarantees so again i think i mentioned this before the easiest ones are the ones that already have a coc and you know they were issued that was closure and for some reason they didn't get their performance bond back so now it's just a matter of trying to get through some of them that are like you know easy picking sort of so cool all right uh for i'll go with that and kind of get in a motion please for the return of the performance guarantee for 142 gleason road so moved thank you luke do i hear a second second thank you cliff roll call please uh luke lozier yes barbara hall yes jenny brown yes lisa alvin yes cliff lewis yes sean fairza yes thank you folks five b pine brook blockage issue linda i believe all of you received an email that was i forwarded from an abutter who was very concerned about how um there was changes to the outflow of the farm pond over a main stone there was also um boulders of big rocks put into the stream in order to block the flow and i think that's done had a serious um effect on pine brook itself and like i said i didn't realize that there was so much flow coming from that farm pond but i mean i think combined with the drought i think what we've had is some really low water in pine brook and you see it from um i mean sean's been remarking about that for a while years i've been talking about that yeah yeah um walking over walking over the boardwalk there in pine brook conservation area it's just it's unbelievably dry over there so um what i've done is i've asked our town um surveyor to go over there at some point some of the the rocks are actually looks like they're within the right-of-way of rice road and we would have access to that and we could we can remove those if they're within town property and if they're not we can identify what property they are on and then there's also weir that i guess blocks the flow of um the farm pond and i guess there's i'd like to get a good explanation of why that was done i mean why why they chose to um retain more water there and i think sean offered to um make make a uh contact dev hamlin and have a discussion about that right yep i'll call that let's listen to this clip have you i mean riparian rights have been contested for thousands and thousands of years i don't think we have any jurisdiction to regulate flows of streams well in this case we might it's dried up the wetland but you know that's sort of god's work and you know we can't demand that people release x number of cubic feet of water every month or every or anything yeah my dad was talking to me just kind of just kind of understand when i'm talking to dev and say hey did you did you know the effect of that yeah asking a question is perfectly fine yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he's he's pretty pro conservation so i thought yeah he's usually quite good yeah yeah um all right uh it is it is a cold water stream though you know it is it is an officially designated cold water stream pine brook is and the other thing we do is we do have a cr on this property so if the the baseline conditions have changed um from you know when the cr was first um signed and granted to conservation and to svt i mean i think we have a case we may have at least you know some issue there that you know it's the conditions have changed they need to go back to baseline right i know what's your thoughts luke yeah certainly if there's a cr on the property what you just said linda would be exactly right um and i think you know i understand what you're saying cliff i think every situation is different right so it's also conceivable if they went in and altered wetlands that led to this blockage uh without a permit then that you know that is something that's within our jurisdiction so i think what we're proposing here is exactly the right move yeah have a conversation and see what we can learn yeah deal with it from there yeah okay all right so i'll let you know how that what i learned from that um no topics on my end um don't end up when we get off real quick i do have to hop cpc is happening right now i have to hop into that after this i do a question before i get on that so i'll call you after this before i go to the cpc meeting um uh public comments i didn't see any hands correct okay um last thing babs how are we looking for the minutes uh of december 17th i was all right with them as if linda was gonna give him a look over and i made some minor edits you know just some wordsmithing for the most part not changing the contacts okay so we got barbara sample approving mails thoughts comments concerns on the minutes last all right if we don't have any can i get a motion to approve the minutes for december 17th 2025 please so moved thank you luke do i hear a second second thank you cliff roll call please luke lazier yes barbara howell yes jenny brown yes lisa aubin yes cliff lewis yes and sean fairs yes all right i think i think we're good anybody else time check oh boy that's close i'm going to go to the record for that one 652 linda have we done that before oh i have to go back to the records barbara barbara you must have never seen 652 right this is how fast we've done this by long shot 22 when i have the rope you wait a while barbara what did you say it was so short it's only on one page i know i love it we're setting records are you in charge of frightening people away hey let's keep it up one for one for the year good job thank you all right um um anybody else let's get a motion to adjourn for the evening and i'll hop into cpc so moved thank you luke do i hear a second second thank you cliff roll call please luke lazier yes barbara howell yes jenny brown yes lisa alvin yes cliff lewis yes and sean fairs yes we're adjourned