June 12, 2026 – Economic Development Committee – Video & Transcript

June 12, 2026 - Economic Development Committee

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all the order it is 8 30 a.m friday june 12th on the order of any community that developed community four of james uh in person or in person remote we don't have anybody remote but in person we have ali and we have him with becky and the brother tumble as a guest if others join we'll just know when we join um so let's see you know we sent public comments i think there's nobody there right yeah there's nobody here on face not able to attend so with that public comments will be part of these events i think we now have a really big time to put it so they kind of just spit them out it's like that we're struggling with that that's just a like everyone did that help with this because i think he was kind of feeding himself yeah well at least he was doing this template and i can't draw that and then whatever model so i've been using types of receivers just we could not deal with keeping the template but we're doing this so it reduced ahead which was so bad it was like how hard is this here's the template don't screw it up and it just gives you just really well you know so yeah which was extremely frustrating but basically i had it ready its own had prompts i've been trying to get there and then i actually took that and then i looked at it about and then i thought that works oh my god so it still could use a little sweeping sometimes i have sets of meetings or about three pages long but it's still a little word weaver then yeah but i don't know how we play it for years i didn't use you can kind of set it up but it seems that it could pop out so do you have um uh you have plot for it okay yeah i'm definitely used plot i would not use them but it's actually these better for some things but mostly so anyway so i'm happily happy to hand that off and i think andina was also asking what if we figured it out to let her download it so what are you guys doing right now planning more things that seem and now she is she does i do all of the evolutions seconds over all the all the time lines that's what i'm talking about that's what i'm talking about that's what i'm talking about and she was back and put all the information so she went up to David and says this is what for this the section was she'll love this yeah but we also we also have a new month there so i'm glad because we just ran out money and pulled the money so july has a lot more money to know how to deal with that well you can use ai and then you know use that money first and then it helps but yeah i think that's sure i think i think for us we need to then if we're going to switch then we need to switch on the next year because we're really like made it to you mid-air and you're like it doesn't seem nice to put on us at this school and there's there's still oversight that has to have and i think this is still feeding off of those manual transcripts obviously which is often not i know there are often that it comes up with if you didn't buy a subscription to check you see or acquire and then use that but i think i'm cool with great russians oh really yeah i haven't paid one but it's a great sponsor and i have a day russians as well that might be able to do that and you know about a few people this time so we're only dealing with when people are going for the kind of state of you know they're outside working yeah you know we don't really need it to be like it's good i want to say this brain is we switch and say we're going to move to ai so i need to buy this but there's no contact with that unless she quits then you know pay me for switching am i understanding that we're paying someone just to be nervous that's not what i'm going to pay and what that is how much more pain yeah it's just for melting you're someone who ain't just as angels she doesn't know what's this he's on pat and raff no she's on pat and raff yeah she's playing with his media no is she a talented boy and then she's not a talented boy no she just does that that's it she does most times and i've lost her talent but she knows more stuff that's a good boy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah um i just thought i feel like it's not building probably yes i mean yes so i think you were saying before i make sure you use the project so sad right up this lady sends this zoom which i just downloaded transcripts off the side of it something like me get that pilot So with that, catching up in the minutes, any comments to April 8th, we need to finish? Motion to approve. Do you want to do a lot of comments about the other ones? April 8th, April 10th, May 12th. Okay. I'm going to make the motion to approve. Motion to approve, do your seconds. Second we, all in favor, aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. All right. So they're approved. 4-0. All right. Town planner update. What's the latest? If you want to call me a good talk. Is there? Maybe the name of the house of employers. In the public section. That would be successful. They want to do. How do we align that? What do we need to invent? And then that. Just measure. How do they want to do? How do they want to do? How do they want to do? Find those up. This is why I'll use that. We're going to have some changes in the file. Signage. Lists that have. Open space that actually goes. Open space. Class. That um. They were playing. That park. They were playing. They were playing. They were playing. They were playing. They were playing soccer. They were playing. They were playing. Great. We said they would have. They would have to. That language. And how to quantify that. So they learned. They were made. They were made. They were able to figure out. What's the bat. What we love changing? And. Okay. So is it being drafted now and probably approved at the next meeting, or how soon will it be? It is disgusting. Especially being independent, that's not a lot of fun. I was just going to be back. Then they had to put in the team, it was disgusting. So far I'm very positive in the science of the project. I think that she has signed since 20 years old. And that's the reason for it. It's so good. It's very good to be in finance. It's good to know for signing this kind of signing conditions. Is there a placement change? I don't think it's the only extent of changing these videos. But I think what the, uh, sort of, there was several proposals. They put in 20 years. They wanted to develop design, and they thought, how many global businesses from it, compared to the blank space. So it's more like, uh, all of them. They wanted to make they wanted to have a set of pop-outs, or the destination, but they wanted to put all, they wanted to put more exciting, uh, businesses, uh, reliefs from them. They don't know what's forced to pass it on, and they're, they're all, so. In the end of the day, they don't want the properties. They should know better what they, what that works better than them. And they literally, the property themselves. What are some of the other things that are getting bad around, you know? Autoply. The Autoply. The same, the brain. The same brain. Yeah. Yeah. It's a brain. Yeah. Yeah. So you know, the brain things next to us, uh, sparing blinders, and like, they don't have brain, it's like, it was going to do a skin, and going down. So they wouldn't, they would have operated it, and they would bring some brain, and they'd be charged, in the water, squeezing it, retaining it. Some kind of partnership, so, they have, they have, they have, they have all these connections, they don't place them, all that, while they're pretty focused. So they know like, we have this thing, uh, property, unless they get something, whatever, we're not properly a human. So they have all these connections, but, they didn't serve, didn't quite have, which they, outside the box. And then we'll get, we're not, we have a skim, ooh that's fine, basically in front of him, uh, like, soccer field, the thing is, outside the box, yeah. Is there a really good job, of it, for the playground? They're not really fun, right now. I think that's like, it needs to, and, these are things like, you know, uh, things like, you might not be able to, do it in college. So, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, a dark bar, out there I think, yeah, there are these kind of cafes, they're all bouncing around at that forum. Can they get a pen photo? I think they have, they're some of mine and happy. I thought, you know, I don't know. I think there's someone, I think there's some of them that they have. They may speak to the photo. And then have you heard of anything else about, I know they, the town is trying to get more of the safety, more of their license. Yes, and that's been fun. Maybe it's not watching the time, you know? I don't know, but I don't know. Do you have any updates on the internet that I've made again? No, you're right. You know that, nothing I've ever shared. I mean, what we believe once they have is important to share that. So what's the time, so I know that they're going to the slough farm. Late in the box, yeah. I think there's something like that. I think they're in a month. Yeah, it's actually bad if they want to do their plan on the post. I have one. So it's not a question, like, I know people at River Trail Place, and the question is, when is the right time for them to plug in? And so I was hearing that it would be like that select board of the evening, but if, so at this point, with the planning board, they haven't officially applied to you, so would there be a formal presentation? Like, which one should they show up at it even, like, for them to hear, but then also who's speaking about? Yeah. I mean, on the subway part of the general discussion, it's probably a big planner, so click here, and have to say the, these are the things we need to turn that into my plan, that we can leave out, that's what we're talking about. If they're both tackling, you can hear them. And if they want to be, if you don't want to be chatting on the phone, watch me say, because it means all of a sudden I'll call it. So. Maybe. I don't know if Robert, do you want to put this? I do. And David. Yeah. It's the slide board meeting. It was supposed to have been a burst of this month and got slid and slid, but that, that's probably still the one Saturday. But by the time they need, they'll know what the plan for it will be. I know they're trying to be both, both boards, what we had was going on, just for the, um, the plan, um, they were on the, you know, on the top of the last scene. They were on, well, slid. Now, we plan to turn it up, slid, doing this as it was as soon as possible, on the face. So, they were on the front of the critical scene. So. Have they said, I assume they want to be like, at least? Can you try and do it this summer, or is it? They, if they're trying, they want to put it today or not. I, I don't know how much that. They, they've described it as a lot of, like, what we've done. I think they saw a whole bit of our brand, like, some of our champions, like, all these, yeah. But we have to talk about that. They, they know a lot about that. So. Okay. Now they want to know, they want to be dandles out, they just, they want to actually go, they want to actually go with it. What other time they were, with the new brain, you know, all the brain is, they're all good together. Or, like, W's. Yeah. Yeah. So those brands. And then, they say, big loads, and they've used it around, and it looks like they'll save loads. And they have, I guess. But you would have to ask, what do we know, and that's history of po falsy. Okay. Oh. Oh, okay. Okay. They'll use, they'll be, they'll be around the, the lower book, instead of, save loads. Uh, uh. So there's a lot of ideas, there's a lot of technical support, designers, and they really have to think about this, like, this is a little child that really brings a lot of energy and money to, like, deep brain, and, like, the website gotta be updated, they do a lot, social media, they upload them all the time, they upload them all the time, they upload them all the time, it's like, very, like, finally, someone's posting on this. They don't have a great brain, they're not a great brain, but we don't have time so we'll just get up. And they might change, they're gonna get some of these stuff. And they don't get some actually lunch, you can guarantee you go some actually lunch. And they do a lot of other stuff on the side too, we'll draw up, which are going to have a lot to be so. Did they go to that? I went to that on Saturday, we got already 90 people, but they didn't press the clock. Yeah, it was cool. So, yeah, and so we went, so it was an old, arts-related space. And I was like, oh, we went out, wait, the clothes were open? Right. And then there was synergy between the two of them actually performing. There was a script called, um, we did a sign, you know, like, six dancers, and there was just a couple of bands that went off every half hour. Oh. It was like, we were so heavy. Yeah. But everybody in the arts-related gallery were not ready. Like, I looked around the room and I didn't spot anybody in those first rounds. I was like, oh, this is good. I was like, this is a new people who were coming, and then the arts-related space, but then there was a lot of- So, I think a lot of the time, I need one of the time, I need one of the time, I was happy, it's- Yep. They were supposed to see that they did the quality of the things, it was a class with the StompChap and they did the ways in the steps, and they're kind of like, what was StompChap, is this, this story that, where the vision of this puts on those great, competition, this, and opportunity-wise. So, we're going back, and on this, there's some fires of Tom Schapman, I was trying to get a piece of the same size of the day they want. So, there is a thing that can fit every type of body. I live in the out of that. So, yeah. Well, that's, they, they discuss, that's the worst. The worst place there are things to be played. They do a lot of, for example, these things. One of the worst circles, the market will be strong. Every time you have to put that. Every time you have to put that. You cannot sell food! It's like, this is not! It's crazy! It must've been, well, these guys. They'll give you that. They're gonna have to put it, the first one. They're gonna have to put Panera. And Panera was the one that had the Savante Bray. And they did. So I think they're planning for leading the donor. With that embrace, they don't, they don't. I think people are the same. I think the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the place of ice cream is, um, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. because it's all a little thing for that, but I think they're not really important. So, yeah, it's actually a place that we sit down, we'll go and study. Can I tell you about this song? Who is funny, actually? Oh, for her. I've been interested in this kind of phenolome for a while. So, hopefully, I'm standing in general. Yeah, probably. Tell us how we're seeing. So, who isn't funny? You know, one, three, two, so there's someone that we've seen. That's one of the things that we're planning on working in, I got the way to, when I got an answer, I did find it to be able to read it by some way, and that, to use it for, you know, for hiring a lot of students to, we can have, we're ready to be coming back and back, we need to find some, so that's the one they want to do some of that. So, I wish I do. It's a lot that we see there's no students. It's interesting to do that with all of my children. Yeah. Well, I'll talk about that. Yeah, I know it's responsible. It doesn't solve it, but it gives you a first draft in the middle of 20 minutes. I mean, it's just like a goal. Yeah. What do you think? What are you going to give many clients to tell me to do that? Exactly. They're going to go to chat GPT or blogger. They're going to spit out a draft and massage, right? And that's some guys who do that, yes. So, you can save yourself a lot of money. Well, I sit together. So, I got to go around and call my heart and make the game fun, and do the stuff with three, three, three things. So, I've seen the list that you guys have put together what the zoning is. It was all set pass and tight and things like that. But it wasn't, there was none of the qualitative stuff that really makes it work. And so, it's funny. If you're going through this, one of our columns is literally, what should we write into zoning? And that will make it better. So, this is actually a perfect time for that. Because it's, it's IDDHVAC. It is, you know, no dumpsters can be seen. You know, all this small stuff. But it makes all the difference to the well. So, lots of signage, you know, lighting, and all that kind of stuff. So, where we don't have it in zoning right now, that's always the purpose. That was sort of missing the qualitative, but they'll start on the list. That's the DRB. He's totally on top of that.
So, it makes that whole, really, how you see touch and deal with space. So, how soon is, so you're just kind of identifying the firm right now? So, we probably have a lot of drivers out there. I have a call about one of the law.
Okay. So, it'll probably start in the next month, do you think? You'll get somebody in the middle of the go, or? Yeah, I mean, I have to run it by the time here. It's one of the things you can kind of request. And make sure to take my business is what they want, as I do, I'm just a big big issue. I think it's so fascinating.
Can I ask you a quick question about some sense of solving? Sure. I know this thing. That's never a question. I saw this thing. They say the state of Massachusetts released the MBTA 3A districts, said that, did you say that? I didn't know that, we have a car now, a portion of the town center that's still a residential. Yeah, I got it. It was not in there. But the problem is that a residential has to be a right way to do that, right? Yeah, right. So, yeah. But we still mapped it. We did. At the time when we did it, we're like, this is great. This is exactly what housing should go. And then, you know, food started to die to me in the details. That's right. Yeah. Well, then essentially, let's say it's on a growth plan. It takes 10 years. Then it's 10 years later. So I'm going to go off into it. Let's say it's the same. If you have the growth in 10 years, and then 10 years later, maybe our changes are like, yeah, we'll give you the tuition. Sure. And then you do it. And then you're like, perfect. Now you have it. So, like, we know it's going to be long term. We know it's not happening. Now, at this point, then we'll be building the current in the next year or two years. But we know it's a long term thing, but at least we'll be a person to work your box in 10 years. Next you do it. Well, if people does have found their radar, but they have so many others to send them to do first. But part of it is, the problem is averaging the rate down, the problem is rate down the spot by another company. So they're no longer local. And so, it's just the lawyers incorporate like, well, I can just say no, and nothing changes. Instead, why would I say yes? We just have to open ourselves up for a lot of other things. And they left out the stop and shop and the parking lot of government for a purpose? Or is it just, they told me that main core that all the- Because stop and shop has rights to that right. Yeah, that's what happened to point out. Yes. I think it's more likely to stop and shop leaves, and then you take that for housing, and that's beyond granting the rule at first. So, I mean, if the housing, housing overlay, I don't know, but if it's not where stop and shop is, that that would be a better one. Anyway, we can only go back and spend some time here. Their sales are sluggish. I think, I think that site is the future. So, this assumes the retail will be built up like a regular city grid. That would actually be nice. But a lot of it had to, because before you would tune in, a lot of it had to do, because it probably would be the old Boston Sport Club list, and they would be a big game before the bottom of the list, and before the idea was to not have that building, Boston residential there, and then behind. Okay. I mean, no change. We could always go back and, you know, something comes up in gray, it's like, who's not making this big game? There's an opportunity to modify this, and make it some adjustment? What is it? Sure. What do you ever, like, want the company to come out in seeing if there's a part of it that can lose for housing? Is it contaminated? I don't know, but the map that you remember is where Zerb was looking at. So Zerb was giving out research about where they want to put this on. So he advised us, this is where they want to put this on. So the reason that made it up, we'll go right here. They were very, very involved. That's a good point, though. I mean, if there's no way to shoehorning, work around, then that's the path, but at least it's a serious thing. I mean, you don't need a huge footprint. I mean, you don't need a huge footprint. You should get something like, around a break. Yeah. Well, yeah. Like, whatever area, it's like, nah. Exactly. Yeah. Because, I mean, you don't need a huge footprint to get housing if you get a little bit of vertical height. Is that planet more fighting to it? Well, it's great. Like, I met people around there, I'll put the... Share the plane? What? The sheeple share the plane? No, on the other side, kind of behind the depot, near the wreck path. There's something to grow on. It's like, it's gross now. It is, but it's all bad. The cow's bird, of course, is the wrong guy. The worst part, it's not something like that. The depot part begins, but then, as you get part of them. The depot part, they're a pretty town town. Oh, no. Oh. It's just that, it's just the town, something. Oh, well, it's time to sell that. So, what else do you have? You both? I don't know what's the story. Yeah, why do you think that? No, no, no, I'm not talking about the... No, no, I'm not, not in the town of Green. I mean, I'm using them on the... How can I say start with her dad? Oh, oh, oh, no. The treatment kit. The treatment kit. Yes. We control that. We control that. We don't control the parking lot. So the parking lot was in the empty state district. Right. But in the... What should be or the housing or the vanada, what's the treatment for? Are all this street people will addicted to? You can't hear that. It's one of them. And they shall probably birra... I... I think it was something... Is it us україн弟弟弟? Mr. Do Santos and Esteban Cutters? No, it's a great try, is it the wastewater named Jack... Although... Yeah, That would be... Yeah, it will be, We can ask, we can ask Sanfei, because I asked him what was going on with the play map. The first thing is the environmental. So they had reached out to the events that they hadn't heard that yet. He may have that map, because he was always brilliant to call that. So we'll check and see if there's an outfit that shows. Because where Stock and Shop is, is where the office building was. Right? And so if that's always where the office building's sat, with Nathan, you know, we can scan it if it was close to the river where they just, you know, have their trucks and the, who knows what chemicals and everything else, I mean, no, but, right, it's all right, we can call them with Sunshine, because they're all, you know, they're not able to call them, like, I don't know. You know what that is? That's one of the ideas. So I'm going to go to town hall. You know what that is? That's one of the ideas. That's crazy ideas. Oh, because the, where the hardware store is in Nashville, right, that building was built just for 2nd floor. So you could build 2nd floor on that building. Yeah. So that was built off us to be put in town hall on the site before that we mentioned, instead of where they saw this, and we did nothing to see. But how is it? I know there's, like, eight or ten farms over there now. Yes. This was the building? Yeah. It's the same sense? Yeah. Yeah. It actually covers a lot. Uh, let's see if he does this, I don't know why. He goes over the 20. What is, what is the CBOC? Is that where the, it sounds like a kind of bumping scene on it? Yeah. Probably. Interesting. Huh. There's a small job on that. It's switching to some words right now, right now. Yeah. It's very right. And you can sometimes believe, but it's quite a relief. Do you want them? But I think the point was, if you had that anger of something on the place, or a grocery store, or something, then you, you don't know, it's great. And you can walk down and make groceries. I thought it was a problem. It just stops a lot of them. Yeah. No. The sales. The sales. That's it. Oh, that's great. Chopped up. Yeah. Yeah. Should've been a Whole Foods. I know. Should've been. Should've been. Stopped up. Stopped up. Stopped up. Stopped up. Stopped up. Stopped up. Stopped up. Stopped up. Stopped up. Stopped up. Stopped up. Stopped up. Stopped up. No other applications would come in? Nothing. And door shattering. Sides. All of stuff. Not really. Okay. Stopped up. Same question that says. Don't link up on Facebook. Um. Yesterday I think. People were. Curious. And actors too. I don't know if you've heard anything about like. Delivery pizza. That building like. Lots of blocks. There is. There is. Something's on that side. They have. They have. They have. That fire goes. Stopped. Side. It's like. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. So. Ok, so. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. Yeah. It's all. It's all. Yeah. Yeah. Love to see this again. We've posted it. I mean. I thought that. We made it like a month ago. I know. I thought that they were. That were just. About to leave. That was all. No. Yeah. So. Cool. All right. Well. I'll put you on it. Okay, well, let's see if you can I'm going to take a phone call instead and, uh, just put it all inside these are the places are too high and they didn't put it off. Exactly. It's constructability and the building is enough to code to be able to pull their TDI permits or to build out all of them so they're just kind of childish but that's going to be a skill. Okay, so if you need a building the way that we have to go Yes. Okay. Yes. I mean, he's really on Friday. Yes. So it's on the ownership side of the knocking point of paper so we should be careful not to do that but, yeah, I think I've got to get it sorted out. He didn't need your help. He knows our things like that. It's not even because the town is trying to help them out of our way. What's the name of the town Mr. Yes. There she's on the nerve. What's going on is she's a only double progress. What? We want that. Yes. Yes. Two days ago. Three, four weeks ago. I mean, she seems very positive. She's not like, oh, I'm worried. They're like, oh, no. She was like, I mean, clearly this is she had originally said June or something like December. It was going to start. It started in like November, December. And then we applied to, you know, I think they had a bunch of issues getting parents and whatnot, kind of like plans. And now she's saying, it seems pretty confident. But so there's nothing happened over there. Cause they were supposed to have started. No. I don't know. It's a little bit of work. Really? It's all in theory. Oh, very good. And you know, actually, Michael just texted, if you bring them up. Cause actually we were just talking about townhouse. He emailed me about, uh, they want to put in the working group about parking. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, great. Let's see that. Oh, but you played a louder song. A louder song? Um, it was. So. Probably. Michael. Sorry. I had to send you test. You're online, but you're in media. Yeah. Like the microphone. Fine. Fine. You've loaded the canvas. Okay. Probably outside. Can you hear me now? Yeah. Hey. I've been here for almost the whole meeting. It's all right. It's just listening. Well, we kind of have some great insights. Do you know the latest with a Liberty Pizza building? So when I talked with Nate last week and then, um, just earlier this week, I think he said they're going to be giving the permit for Liberty Pizza. He had said, really, the issue was there. Almost all of the, uh, the tenants, he's waiting for them to get back to him. But otherwise the building is, I guess, good to go. It's just the tenants getting their act together. He said the other day, he said they were going to be, uh, allowing Liberty Pizza to move forward. So. Excellent. Excellent. Um, I wanted to touch on two or three things. Um, I sent you and Robert the email that representative Linsky asked earlier in the week about, did we have any economic development earmarks? And I thought based on your email, you want to talk about it here. So that was one of the reasons I jumped on. Great. So, yeah, I circulated that to improve as well. I didn't hear back to you because we were talking about it this morning. So do you get the sense that it's, you know, you can probably only ask for 50 grand, like what, any vibe for him? Yeah. Well, that that's what we asked for in previous years. And then the other year it made it into that economic bond bill, but the governor never signed it. So, uh, I mean, I see no harm in just renewing that ask, but if there was anything else, I wanted to know if you had something, uh, you know, a hot issue that we should ask. I mean, they always ask us and they always advance it, but whatever happens to it, I don't know. I mean, uh, you know, I do, I don't want to not respond to him, but I don't have the utmost faith that we'll get something in the end. Um, but who knows? Well, so the 50 grand for the economic development person, um, would be great. The discussion was going to be a hundred grand have somebody for, you know, somebody halftime for a full year, or we got them for a couple of years, maybe. Um, even if we get 50 grand, we can kind of use it for a year. That'd be really good as an experiment. Um, and they called our three things that we'd asked for before. One was NV state communities. Um, one of our big things that you see is re-looking at NV state communities from an economic development standpoint, much like the regional West was, but looking at some of the other areas, um, and how is the density there? Does it make sense? And also back our minds, we have to know that main zone is not a functioning district, right? And that state is very attuned to towns and cities. So it's just a matter of time. So do we ask for our 50 grand to re-look at NVTA districts and stay ahead? Yeah. I don't know. And the other one is re-planning master plan, but the planning board is that the planning is done. So, and it sounds like you guys have money for the zoning. So that one kind of is off the table right now. Okay. Yeah. I forgot about the, that we asked about the MBTA last year too. So, all right, I'll, uh, I'll go back and grab that. I'm sure I have it in an email from you. It was just the one that jumped to the front of my mind was the, uh, help for economic development, uh, part-time person, because that was the one that made it into the bond bill of the other requests. So just, you know, maybe if we keep asking that one, we'll eventually cross the finish line. So. Well, the MBTA communities one, they may be more attuned to, because it creates housing. And we all know that that's the basic knowledge of private looking possible. So I think that, like, you know, if it comes down to voting on it and whether it's the cutting room floor or not, somebody might keep it on the table. So try for both. And I can give you a little blur for that. Yep. Yep. That'd be great. Yeah. And I would like to get back to him. So I, I, I, maybe we can touch base later today. Cause I'll, I want to send it to him this week. Usually they, they're, they're kind of last minute folks. They ask us at the last minute because they have to get it in at the last minute. So. That's what we can do at a deadline. So. Okay. And then you had also emailed about, uh, we were just talking about townhouse. And so, uh, there's like a working group or something about, uh, parking in way of the historic district. Yes. So the select board, uh, after the historic district commission came in, um, said, Oh, Michael, you can handle this. So I wanted to put together a group. Just to, to bat around the ideas of how to do parking. There's, there's a couple of things going on. The house adjacent to the library just went up for sale. It just hit the market yesterday. And it has land that goes back behind the freight house. Um, it had, you know, they, it's over four acres and there's land there that could be used. If we could approach them that could be combined with the library property that that's separate, but first and foremost, there was some people that want to look at ways to improve the parking down around the depot, the library. Um, and what maybe in that right in the center of that triangular piece of land out in front of the veterinary office. So I'm inviting police fire DPW Robert. I wanted to get something from the EDC. I invited Jesse Burkhan and I'm waiting for the age, the historic district commission to send me a name and then we'll pick a day and get together and take a look at it. And there's also going to be a select board liaison. So, you know, David loves everything. Uh, there it is. So then he's coming to do it. And I said, do you want to do that to the first person? Yeah. Okay. Perfect. All right. So Michael, we'll have a rep for you. We'll connect the data to Larry who lives right around the corner. I know he, he likes his issues. I thought we'll have Katie. Okay. Um, And part of it too, it's like thinking about the parking that exists. Um, we had, I had connected that on our terrain with, um, the office building on Palomath road for overflow parking. So they're talking, you know, we met that. I am co-building. They're spying well down, but you know, lovely people, huge parking lot, two cars there in a given day, the husband and the wife. So, you know, maybe that parking can be shared for employees or, you know, something can be worked out. So there's already, you know, you always try to meet the most of the asshole. Sorry. It's nice. Yep. Not doing that. So part of that, we're about to talk about the outreach to all the property owners. So with that, as we sort of go one on one, maybe I've met a lot of them as we kind of strolled around. Um, but some of these, all these issues overlap. Great. Sorry. Okay. Any sense of when you want to start that? Is that something that's starting next week? In the next month? Like what, what's your, well, if I got, uh, names back, I would try and meet next week. Uh, I, I'm going to be on a staycation the following week. Uh, I mean, I can participate things by zoom, but I assume that the select board is. Meeting more frequently over the summer than I had planned, but I want to get back to them on this sooner than later. And I think the library would like to, you know, be in, have a heads up. You know, they put up these new signs. They've already got flack for it. They did it in anticipation of the bistro coming on board at some point at 21 Cichituit. And they've had a lot of people parking for the rail trail. So, uh, the library's employees tend to park up in that second lot by the freight house. That's why they put all these signs in, uh, my last town manager office hours. I had several people come to complain about the signs, how they were kind of, uh, tacky and overkill, because they put so many of them up there. What, what are they saying? It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, or after, or after, or, or does that say go park at town center? Yeah. Does that tell you what else you know? No. That's part of having Jesse at the table, because he wants people to park there. Yeah. So we just need to retrain, right? So, it's just, and I think too, once the rail trail is re-landscaped, it will be a lot easier for people to access the rail trail. Yeah. It's like, from town center right now, it wouldn't be the thing to do, because it's awkward, because now it's like, there's a survey over. Yeah. So now we're going to do that. But it's right there. Yeah. You gotta stop. Josh.
Mike, have you heard anything on townhouse? Have you? Last parent heard that they wanted to open in September, but nothing's moved inside. Have you heard anything? Or not at all? Which, which one? And townhouse bistro, going into the old Collins market? Uh, no, I haven't heard anything since the, you know, the last time at the ZVA, but, um, I can reach out to the, the engineer I've dealt with before. Um, I was going to, in case you weren't aware, you were talking about housing, and Robert may have shared this at some point, but cascade down the street. Um, it had gone through appeals and the town had prevailed. But recently about two weeks ago, the commission, the commissioner at DEP, uh, in an unusual fashion, stepped in and over ruled the, uh, hearing officer's decision is basically remanded, uh, and back to the conservation commission, uh, finding certain things in favor of cascades. So that may start to move quicker. Um, or, you know, it had looked like the, the town was prevailing on its concerns about the wastewater discharge into the cold water stream, but the, uh, DEP commissioner stepped in and issued their own decision saying there was sufficient information for them to make a determination and they need to work with the developer and go back. So that's been tied up for a long time. Well, before I got here, but it sounds there's movement again, over on that, you know, it's still tied up in the hearing process, but that was an unusual twist. Um, I'm not, I'm not really laughing at it. It's small. Yeah. They did, uh, some higher up for China. Yeah. The town of fields of the state got to stop it on environmental grounds, which the state basically, uh, you know, they vary, but then the director of the settings and the director of the county. Yeah. It was sort of an administrative. Yeah. Which, uh, you know, several people feel that this is kind of the state's way to push their housing agenda in a roundabout way, but it seems like a dangerous precedent for them to get involved. But, you know, it's hard to tell their rationale. So I understand before that, uh, you know, essentially the project was approved, but with a really stringent wastewater system that was so expensive, it was basically cost prohibited. Is that, that basically, that was the, that's my understanding. And then, and they, they wanted to appeal that and the state, the town prevailed. Um, and now we have this other ruling saying, no, they don't have to do all these things. So, um, the cons cons still is very passionate about protecting that cold water stream, because there's, I guess, one of the few in the region that is a habitat for native brook trout. So they, they're, they, they wish to continue fighting it. All right. Okay. There was some discussion over here, like pops up, but they somehow want to connect to the town center. Super, but that's like, a, you know, the past baby, maybe that, that shit could be by a massive, like a mile and a half. Maybe I don't know how far it'd be crazy. It can't even potentially be cost, cost, cost abundant in any way, shape or form. Michael, there are discussions in that regard. Did that go anywhere? Or is it still going somewhere? Well, I don't think it went too far before, but without getting too much into the weeds, um, after the decision happened, came down the other week, cascade reached out to me to see if I could try and get people to the table to talk about options. Um, and, and that subject did come up again. So, um, I'm working with the attorneys. Um, and I've been talking back and forth with members of the conservation commission to, you know, at least be open to a dialogue with them rather than spending more time appealing appeals and whatnot. So we'll, we'll see where it goes. We're talking about trying to get a stay of, uh, uh, this expedited hearing that the commissioner wanted just so that people could take a breath and talk about things. Uh, so options are on the table. So, you know, I'm, I'm trying to have everybody keep an open mind. Um, I think even, you know, the wastewater plan, we have limited capacity and we could use it all. I mean, I think we can say no, right. We can say no, right. The state can't mandate that we rent, rent a home use. Sorry. Cascade. Yeah. I'm not aware of this is something I have to get educated on with the wastewater district commission. Um, so then that's on my to do list, you know, because this, this all came about in the last two weeks and it was the, the beginning of the week that cascade reached out and wanted to try and see if we could work out a few things. So, uh, these, these topics have just come up again. All right. Well, ideally they would be hands off the waiting center. So we can figure out how to expand in some way. Um, but in that regard, Michael, there was discussion about, I know that, uh, Tom Holder and Abby are looking at potentially trying to expand. What, what are the efforts in that regard for wastewater? and the wastewater management district? Um, are you talking around Dudley Pond back? Well, Dudley Pond is sort of a little bit different. It's so far away, but there's talk about, I think Abby, as everyone's describing, it sounded like they're looking at how to expand the system overall. Is there like engineering that's happening in that regard? Or what's, what's officially happening in that regard? Um, it'll cost a lot, it'll cost a lot, it'll cost a lot of engineering. So I, I would have to check with them. I'm, you know, we've had some discussions just informally, you know, brainstorming about trying to, to increase things so that we could bring other people, increase capacity over there, how to, to work on that. But I don't know any specific plan at the moment. That doesn't mean they're not working on it. It's just not something that I'm focused on with them. Yeah. I think there's sort of the thinking phase, but it's just, if they were thinking about, you know, what happens with the 320 West district? That one's going to be a tough one, because it's at the tail, and it's not very, you know, that bar, and it's going to be expensive to be over the hill. There's a lot going on there, but. Hey, Michael, uh, Karen Kelly. Well, we have you, uh, where we're at with the environment, being liberalized from state. Uh, no, but I can check in with, uh, Representative Linsky. When I call him, we, the legislation after town meeting was forwarded on. Trudy Reed, the clerk sent it in. I'll just have to check in when they're going to file it and get a status on it. And Representative Linsky had indicated he would drive that. So I'll give him a call today. Talk to him about, uh, the earmarks. Yeah. And maybe I can touch base with you, Becky, and then I can send an email back to the group and let them know. Yeah. That would be great. I know for townhouses asking about it. And I'm sure there's going to be other students too. Yeah. Um, Michael also why we have you. So one of the items is trying to get the financial data from Brian who's out this week, but I think he was looking for your blessing to be able to release it. I just wanted to make sure that that can happen. He's probably like literally five months with his data. We'd love to be able to get it. Any issues with releasing that to us? It's just the 10 year growth numbers, growth projections, um, and cost projections and no idea exactly that in their projections, but just to get some kind of baseline picture of what we're excited in the next 10 years.
Uh, I, yeah, I'm happy to talk to them when he gets back next week to see what it is. Um, I, I don't know what level of detail you're asking for, but I mean, we, we sharing a lot of this information anyways, because we're going into discussions about an override. So, um, I don't see why we can't be sharing some of these numbers. Okay. Yeah. I think you were copied on the email. If you could just hang him back. I think he's out this week, but back Monday and just say, it's okay to release the data. He was just looking for a good blessing. I'll resend you the email just so it's the top of your, top of your inbox. Um, Um, and then, um, we're just going to walk through, um, he and I walked through, we're just about group 20 cleanup. And so we walked through the whole corridor. Um, two days ago, we kind of updated our list to be done last fall. We have a draft letter that we want to talk to with you and Tom Bay. That would come from, I remember we talked about this before, that there'll be a letter that would go out to every single property owner, updating them what's new, talk about her pet sidewalks, and the town will be reaching out to them, updating the building, so many changes that will be happening for them to be plugged in. And then also cleaning up their properties, whether it's zoning violations, whether it's, you know, we have three different categories. One is zoning or building foot violations often site. It's like the worst culprit. Then there's, we can't really control it, but we should really be writing into the stuffing, which is, you know, masking your trash cans and grades the AC and send back your dumpsters and not having donation boxes, like that sort of thing. And then it's just be a good neighbor, and you can move your lawn and take care of your stuff. And like, so we will be looking at that letter during the meeting. I don't know if you can stay on, but we'll get that to you and Tom after this. I thought this letter would come from your office, the building department, and EDC, just kind of covering all the bases. And we can all look at it and make a look at it. We just kind of, it'd be great to get it out in the next month, just so people can start working on things over the summer. So the idea of some of these can be cleaned up by the time the train opens, September, October. So if not, maybe for next year, you know, the long term, et cetera. So you'll be seeing that fit in your, fit in your desk, uh, after this meeting. So we can connect with you and Tom, and maybe with me, um, it'd be great to give you guys thoughts as well. And that stuff. Okay. Okay. So, Jeremy, anything else, anything else that Michael, that you had? Oh, yeah, actually, you might know that we were talking about the playground, uh, at town center. It's currently in Tom face for, he was due to have three beyond, and we have a playground based on the environmental, et cetera. But we were talking about, you probably heard us. Is there a map that shows town center and what areas are subject to the environmental limitations?
I am not aware. I've tried to track down some of those documents. There is, there is on paper the, the use limitations, but I, I haven't seen a map, um, because, you know, I heard part of that discussion. I, I would like to see, uh, at some point, uh, graffito, uh, re-approach, uh, Raytheon if they so choose, you know, uh, but get the governor's help again. Um, I, there's a school of thought that somehow Zurich, um, didn't make their initial approach the greatest and may have ticked off some people at Raytheon. Um, so, a, a, a, I'm not aware of a map, but B, I think it's worth just when you're on that subject of, uh, re-approaching Raytheon, but the new owners to say, Hey, different people, different styles. Would you reconsider? So, um, just something to think about. think about. You may have heard of talking, you know, a good point of, you know, God forbid something happens to stop the shop. You know, they might start doing better with, you know, more traffic site, but if they just kind of fall out of bed, that side of the site actually might not be contaminated. It might be a better spot to ship the zoning. It, we just can't, you know, uh, I was going to put town hall there. So if you can't put housing, we'll move out of this, the current building and go over there. Yeah. So we start these things. So. All right. So we'll, I'll ask Tom. I know that he, he's somewhat focused on, I know that, and that knows it backwards. That's. And I think you saw my email that, uh, master DOT wrote back yesterday. It was just almost the same time that you asked for an update. Mass DOT wrote me in the afternoon asks, could they see the draft MOA? So you, me and Jesse will have to work on that. Yeah. Yeah. So that's our agenda. Shared sweet furniture. So for people to do the plan, gave it to Tom, I mean, to Michael to be able to send the state, kind of asked to bless it. They came back to the blessing treatment. So. Equal animal. Full of furniture, by a separate. Someday. They're playing on the around. And he wins and things like, so. Yeah. Let's see. I know. All right. Um, you're going back. I didn't write them off. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Go. All right. One last thing, Michael, just so you're aware. So needy is here. I don't know if you met Michael in person. Um, he is one of our new members. You see, she is, uh, very interested and put together a great draft survey. for people who have gone through permitting, um, whether planning or whatever, by the time they're actually gotten their CEO, while it's still crushing their mind, we can take a survey and let us know what worked, what didn't work, what problems, et cetera. So she's drafted it. Um, we're kind of massaging it. Um, I'll be bringing it back to you and Tom, and ideally need to, um, relatively soon, especially with the dumping just finished. Toreen will be finishing, you know, we'll be doing things. It'd be a great time to get some of that feedback. Mm-hmm. But when he's, uh, like if they're finishing, let's get the feedback and figure out where some, are there glitches that we can fix? You know, like everything's online now, which is much better. Um, but just getting that feedback to be able to figure out, um, how we can improve if we can. So, you'll be seeing that as well. Uh, probably could assume. Yeah. Okay. So then Michael, anything else? You're welcome to keep listening that I wanna. Yeah, no, I'll keep listening. I, I don't think I have too much more. Um, everything's now, um, starting to focus on.
FY28. Uh, what are we gonna do for an override, um, budget working group? Just, you know, I'll have to look at creating what's called an A and B budget. If we're thinking about an override, what happens if it passes? What happens if it doesn't? And similarly, the capital planning committee, capital improvement planning committee, um, this year, we'll be able to work on the schedule that the bylaw states and they're, they're supposed to have a report done by October. So, everything's shifting. We're shifting now. The focus in, in my office is to start doing the financial planning. So we've already met a couple of times to talk about override. The select board is going to pick it up this week. So that, that will, take up a lot of our time, but, um, you know, it's a very important issue. that, these are all important issues, but you know, that's the big thing that we'll be focusing on over the summer. So, like finally, next on our agenda, we've been talking a little bit about, uh, meals tax, um, even for that discussion, where, as we get new meals tax, not looking at what's already been, you know, in the worst, but a strain joints, a townhouse, and now with Duncan, and a new stuff, example center. So, the question is, can we lever it, like other communities do, to have enterprise fund, or set aside funds, to generate, and improve the commercial districts? So, I know Robert, you're an athlete of that, you've done some research, Jeff, you have some, well, yeah, well, it's a low rejection of what they have. Yeah, it's a letter, it's a letter, it's a letter, it's a letter, if you tax that, in that case, for the bill, obviously, it's all balance that you, you're going to have to, to come, in the cafe to, the cafe's going to have, and you're going to have, you know, your, what a cappuccino, or you're going to have your, you're going to have your, someone has an open bar for an event, how does that work with, with the receipts? Well, it would be charming, some money, toys, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, you're going to have, they have, they have flat fee, like an open bar. I mean, they, what are they doing, were they tracking the drinks, on the back end, and paying tax on, how do they pay the percentage, of the flat rate? I don't, and you can see it, but at least, at our own end, we were, like, you, you still can pay by, it was an open bar, I guess, but I pay by the drink, for every single person, if they're telling it, in fact. Oh. Oh yeah, you don't, you don't know what the tab is, Yeah. So Michael, that is, that was, one thing, we've talked about a little bit, I know that Cheryl is very, proprietary with the existing meal staff, but the question is, with this new, instead of just letting it fall, nothingness, you know, do we do something, with that short 25, 30 grand, that could make a difference, in the corridor. You know, it's more than that, to be, you know, we start thinking about, like one of the things, on the agenda is, the perfect sidewalk engineering, but the state, will do certain things, to perfect sidewalks, but they don't necessarily do, straight lights, or fancier things, like the town budget, on the go, there's a lot of different things, that if we could target, some of these ones, it could make a huge difference, just visually, perception of the, portrait business, etc. So, you can track, each individual, business, but you can track, all each quarter, so the state model, basically, you can probably, how much western, quarter, it looks like, it's quarter one, this year, this year, this month. you can probably figure it out, so you can figure it out, but, I know what, we are in the brain, right now, based on, things they have, if you find it bigger, all it does, like my brain, it's going to be, you know, straight rolling, it's weird, it's not really, and I don't know, it's, the last time we talked, the goal is to try to make a one pager for that, and then also, the tax credit problem, that was second, but, the tax, how can we get, like a one pager, that we're going to, like, be an epigraphic, like, that we get to the slide board, just to, I can also reach out to Arlington, for those, that's, that's really not, discussing, see what they do, the past two years, to get it to that point, and see what, right now, we should have made, so, that kind of, so, So, Robert, can you download, because I'm hoping you can talk about, Ashland, Ashland's the first, the first one, in the company, all that, right, through a champion team, to the talent, that, most talent, most talent, most talent, you'll never do this, it's probably, and they don't, like, bringing a 100k, for, then they just, for the budget, so, 100k, 100k, comes directly, into the budget, someone is doing the, future jobs, they gotta go, get a 100k, one plus seven, and then part of the budget, we need, some grants, that you bring, operation one, so, that's one approach, the other approach, you need to, streamline it, is not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, but, the NDC, app manager, finally, well, doing, yes, and then, otherwise, it's part of the budget. So, the, uh, charge, change, change, the law change, that is, which, so, yeah, so, I don't know why, I'm great, but, like, we want to see, a lot of decisions. And then, some projection room. So, exactly, you know, just getting to the chase, Michael, what's your preference? Is it easier, what, what's, you know, this is not a ton of money, it's not like, if we set up, then, it's fine, but, it can be set aside, like, what would be your recommendation, not, endorsing it in any way, shape, or form, but, what's the most streamlined way, to consider, having, sort of this, give you funds, to be able to improve it, more statistically, with the increased, you know, tax, or, oh, we lost, we lost, we lost, we lost. Um, oh, I'll put in, because ultimately, I mean, I agree on, I mean, basically, I mean, why do you want us to support, the budget, payday, so, I'll send the e-bots, to, to, to, to, to anyone special. That's great. Yes. That's, that's, the meal's to rest, so, It's funny because it's showing that you're still doing that. Yeah, I got knocked out and then it brought me back in, but I didn't get it to voice action. I prefer this version. Can you catch that discussion about the meal tax? Most. Okay. So, nothing for the chase. Like, it has to be approved, but to make a proposal, what do you think is the best way logistically to, I dropped out when I was saying, I don't know about the issue of this advocate for it, because I have a bunch of people, you need to bend it over, I need to pass, I mean, a zealous advocate. But if you weren't, you were just sort of, what is the procedure? Um, I think, given the select one's endorsement, I don't think you have to do the endorsement of the product policy decision in them, but I think you have enough people on there right now that want a link set on things, like, you know, especially first during the board soon. I mean, again, it has to be then. Yeah. It's a mechanism to do it, though, because I know Carol has said, well, the money's there, you can't, you mark it, or, you know, you can't designate it for a certain use. Like, you can't, I mean, we do this all the time, it's a long-play. Yeah. So... Because of that, it's a general plan. You see, when it comes to the general plan now, all you need to say is, you're basically setting up a budget. A budget item. Yeah. Let's say, you know, you know, based on this, you know, it's a great brand, right? It's a policy question. Some of us say, every year we're going to appropriate, you know, 20 million and a half of that, of that kind of thing. We have 100 million, I don't see, we have 100 million bucks in, just around the world. 95 million bucks comes in, we have to take up 20 million each year, policy, and, and, and going to a budget, pretty easily, to use for the next 40s of total revenue. So, that's the easiest way to do it. The harder way, the longer way, the longer way, the majority of the budget, it's actually fun. And some work, can't have a hands-on rate, but often, they, they, it would be, they want to bring some of that, that, that, that's fun. Well, that's a bell brand, it, the time they used to, they used to have, it's 200 or 200,000 bucks, triple in a year, it's a big, well, it's part of the budget process, we, we get, you know, we're gonna pay a year for, we use that for, you know, bunch of meat for sour weed, You guys are, like you said, betting for scraps, but this year the budget will fly, but it feels to me like right now this would be something that the select board had a really hard time getting over, but we waited and we're, until the budget override and all that sort of stuff kind of, it's, I don't know if it strategically makes sense to me, but I'll do that in front of it. It's one thing that the board, I see the EDC differently than other advisory committees and boards, but there are other advisory committees that come in between and ask for a budget, let's say HR, you can't see, and the board has been, but the board has been reluctant to give them a lot of money and they, they did help them with a couple of events and, um, there are some issues with how the money is paying off, but if not, these are going to be tracking any different things, so they come back and ask for the board of money, that's the board of the board, you can't remember what people can do, but it's kind of basically different, because you try to promote the groups where, which, those revenues can help, when you have a budget that, if you're going to need, you can grow, you can add businesses, I think they can look at them differently, but until now I would say they've been reluctant to try and continue by these ladies. Yeah, it's not like it's our special one, it's literally just, these funds will be allocated each year, and it would be approved by a software, and it's just sort of, it's, you know, whether it's, you know, for the private property, you're going to develop the amount of signage, or, you know, whatever. And the town. And the town, yeah, yeah. So we would, it would be, it would be standing at our discretion. We could propose this, then, you know, set it aside and everything. So. So your understanding, it wouldn't be offered until, like, wait a year, until the budget will arrive, and it hurts to go away with that. That needs investment, and it's investing in the future, and investing in it. So, that, that I'm not seeing, in a sense, it's not as if it's something that we want to have maintenance. All right. So, for next time, we'll deal with one pager. So, you want to try to pull that together, and then, Robert, some of the information you have, or can you send it to Jeff? Sure. No, ultimately, it's because I don't think we want to propose an advice fund. Or, I don't. I think it's helpful to know what towns and cities do it. So, Robert, if you have that information, give us an advice fund, do it otherwise, if you can get that to Jeff, and then Jeff. Most towns don't have it. They just, it's, it's on the top. They bring in, they create balance, and, they just, they go small, but I don't even need to pick out. I don't think I'm going, or accordingly, but whatever. I think it's just the best, it's simple, like, I'm going to do it, you're going to do it, you're going to do it, so it's fresh, you're going to have it, it's sweet. It's just brand new. You know, when you move this, you need to, you're starting fresh, so it's like, it's a good answer, and you're now starting over, it's like, it's such hard. But you start small, and then you never chase 10,000, you're never chase 16,000, you get 25,000 in three years. Yeah, that's why you do small, you deal with that time, you show that you can do it, accomplish it, make sure you get one more, one more, change, and I mean, I'm going to try to pick up on some, in the least, that I've already decided to do it. Okay, so we'll pull me out of that one page here. The other topic is split tax rate, which we've been talking a little bit, with Jeff who's brought up, other communities have a split tax rate, and it's much higher, right, they're in the 20s, right, they're 25 for their, their tax rate. For us, I know it's been talking about it in the past, to be able to chase our business away, but at the same time, our residue rate, if we add one, two, three, four dollars, it would still keep us below what other surrounding towns are, but every, every dollar is probably worth about 160,000 dollars a year. So if you increase the commercial tax rate by three or four bucks, you know, it's a decent amount of money. So, and it's fair to ask the business, if you look at, you know, everybody's valuation, their residue has just gone through the roof, unfortunately, like this. So they pay proportionately much less of the cost. Now, rationally, they should pay a little bit more, but we don't want to chase them out of 10. So, that, that has been, the cost put together sort of one feature. We should, you talk about the tax assessor, right, and for us to do a split tax rate. Yeah, it actually doesn't require town vote. It's a select board decision. It's always a select board decision. It's always a select board decision. Right. So, it's, it's, it's low-hanging fruit, and I think it's, it's, it's a fair proposal. Um, I mean, I know when I talked to the head assessor, you know, his first reaction was positive, when I told him that, that all the, uh, you know, the neighboring towns, some of which he was surprised, had split tax rate. Even Lincoln has a split tax rate, and they have no commercial. Um, but the bottom line is, like, split tax rate or no split tax rate for these other towns. Virtually everyone has a higher commercial rate than what payments commercial people are paying, because they're paying off the residential rate. So, it's, it's low-hanging fruit, I think. I'm not a taxation person, but I think there's plenty of room to run to keep the rates still below many of the surrounding towns, and not lose anyone because of it. I mean, are they, are they gonna move the town? Are they gonna move here to another town to pay a higher rate when they're already established here? So, and, and the fact that it doesn't need a town to vote, to me, it's, it's like one of the easiest to make it, to make fairly significant money. I, I mean, I disagree with some of that. I was a select board member for nine years, I was a chair of seven years, and it's the most political between the town, because the, the businesses make the, the counter arguments, the counter arguments, and we used to, why would I want to stay there, I'm a mom and papa, I think they're going to put it to me. So, that's what they're going to say in the board. I'm just telling them the reality. See, it's not that, like, oh, it's an easy vote. I would bet there are some members of the board here that, who will look at it as an easy vote. Um, but it's, it's a $5 million to do it. Um, I know, for nine years I was on my board, uh, we had split tax, I believe. And even tax rate, and then a couple of board members came in, people went in turn, jacked it up, and the depo's a lot of mom and pop, they retired. And the chain stores would stop and shopped, they used to them, but other ones, they went all the way to the, they went to the last. And not, not all businesses are going to pay for it. A lot of the smaller mom and pops in their own whole neural buildings are on gross leases. The landlord has to pay for it. Yes, I mean, that could impact future negotiations, but a lot of times the landlord, I mean, you're not talking huge money, I mean, on, on a $600 million building, if their commercial rate goes up $2, it's, it's not, it's not going to kill the landlord on gross leases. So a lot of times the end user, the business, isn't even going to see that cost, you know, maybe in five, ten years from now, when they've got to renegotiate their lease, maybe they get a little bit more of a bump in rent than they would have thought otherwise. But I think the commercial landlords signing a gross lease, they're just going to kind of absorb that cost. And then the bigger companies, the chains and whatnot, it's, it's like, it's a nothing absorption for them. Okay. And even in the town center, we have a lot of the commercial dollars coming through. That's going to spread so many different ways. It's, it's, I mean, yes, it's going to come out to a certain amount per square foot. Um, but because of the, that's a lot of the commercial there, I think those tenants aren't, if you can boost it at $3 or $4,000, I don't, I haven't done the math on what that would be. Well, I'll push the more foot, but it fails in comparison to what their triple-nets already are. So, um. We kind of pulled away the information. Right. In budget straits, it's something we should consider, whether it's taken or not. But I think that, you know, even if it's discussed and not accepted this year, it's just sort of being acclimated. So I'm trying to bring down the residential, unsanity, $3, $3, $4, maybe right below $20, is significant. It's just $1,000. So when he implemented in my town, the inventions didn't go up. Sometimes the real estate needs to have worked on the other commercial. So there wasn't any we found money. The next section, the bills didn't go up on the inventions. We're not trying to offset it. If we had a lot of commercial, that would be great. You know, if we were native, or a framing camp, that you could subsidize some of the residential taxpayers by doing it. Here, it's just an additional kind of money grab, so to speak. But in lots of services. Yeah. Right.
I don't think the commercial side is pulling their weight. It's based on their values. Yeah, but that's just, that's the state of the party. It's not the town, it's not them. It's just sort of reset it, make it more fair. Yeah. So anyway, so we'll pull together one gauge, and then we'll be able to send it to both FinCon, talk it through them, and then also the board, and the folks out there as that be a part of the stuff.
All right. So beyond that, we have Tonya Jenner who talks about, who spends this point in both any close to 10 o'clock. So, Town Center we talked about, so Shared Streets, you mentioned that will, plenty of that signed off by the state to be able to go off. It's, like, what is, do you know when the June's last board presentation is by Town Center? Um, you know, is that, I heard before it's June 16th, but now it's later? It's probably the 20th. 20th. Right. That's pretty good.
Because it wouldn't be great to publicize that. Um, like, people who live in Town Center, which is a place, others, like, to be able, for them to know that the meeting's happening, because otherwise it happens if three balls and woods are going to be up. Um, but other people like that, other commercial problems in 324, when we send out this letter, it would be great that they know that they get to meet that presentation and know what's happening, right? So, if we, you think it's, the 29th is the next meeting after, so. Well, it is, it will be the next meeting after. What happens is that. We meet, usually, the week after. So, the next meeting, so we'll take the week, we'll meet, but we'll follow on Wednesday to talk about the next meeting. and that's when the chair decides what's going to go on in the next agenda. Okay. And I think it's slated for the 20 minutes. Okay. So, this might be sort of burnt on the 7th. You said Wednesday, right? Yeah, Abby, in my office, we'll have a pretty good idea of planning that the agenda is up for the next two or three, because we kind of build a shell on what's going on. I think there's a chance that it did not fall. Because, like, when can it be publicized by date that we know what's going on? I think that we'll check it out. I think that it's about the general, you know, things will change, something's going on. I think this is over the big town center presentation, though, right? So, it didn't plot that in the dark. I know people of each other. Yeah. Is, uh, is that, did you guys, did they switch over to his last chair? Well, as well as Abby, we just, we'd love to have that date and then be able to sort of blast it out with people. They're all of us. And then they're quite into the, through the general's and the balance. So, Abby, you shouldn't be able to keep it in front. Okay. Which, if we don't even get worried, it's sloppy at the moment. Oh, let's see. Okay. So, um, like, we're on a menu to talk about that, so we talked about, so it sounds like you guys, um, are moving ahead with doing the, the zoning itself. Um, I did listen to the meeting, um, and that it sounds like ADC had reached out to all the private property owners letting them know I'm getting feedback, and I'm like, okay. So, part of that is, we should be reaching out, and on this letter that we've got to put is letting them know when things will be happening, um, so they can put in the zoning discussions, um, speaking. So, we will keep them from the rise of that and put them involved in the process with attorneys. So, um, aside about FirmFET process, uh, Tom Boulder is drafting RfW, um, is going in. This is a question of qualifications. To get firms to get their qualifications, we then move into an RfA, but that's getting to bring, uh, ideally you get a firm that is not just a pure and flexible, but one that is at least to looking at a full of a specific investment strategy, so, with this one, the question is, I know, so a lot of the current report will have a better staff, but, uh, in the 90s, they were, on the 80s, the end of the year, but they will often have, kind of staff, the actual opinion, right? So, yeah, it feels important. The, the RfA, the RfQ, we seem to be detailed, they seem to be important to, you know, we put it through about a few, like, former men, so that's not quite a day before the end. Yeah, Tom was a brat, so, yeah. Yeah, but I mean, that, but it helps me to be involved in being put into the draft while all of the, all of the dates and all of the studies from the beginning. Yeah. Tom was asking a question. So, Kelsey, how busy is she these days? Is she able to get that out sooner rather than later if she backlogs? Of course she hasn't been on the backlog, I don't know, I don't know, I don't see, it's not that, yeah. I had a problem, everybody in there, Jen's been pretty busy, she's been doing books, as I never, as I never went for. So, she's a very nice, a lot of good day. Okay. Right. Existing Florida cleanup, it's actually, probably a week round, they, I'll leave them to, give it spoke to uh michael michael that's what you were mentioning but this is the summary property by property and literally three columns which are where phone info like zoning foot violations what should we change in zoning potentially and then ultimately what can we ask them to do as behaviors so everything from your signage is falling apart it's crooked we you know a lot of this some of the signage this is going through bill sterling a lot of this wasn't approved of some of the signage uh we put this together so this is maybe in a awesome uh right job so it's figuring out you know that middle column we were talking through this is as we do the route 20 zoning these are sort of the qualitative things that we're missing on the list but it's you know it's making sure that hbac is mass and making sure that you know the good you know trash enclosures and ideally different information boxes and you know all that stuff that really can make some district look nothing better that we should be writing into something right that should be part of it it's you know it's not going to be the heights of setback so much for a while during these two cities because there was somebody coming in looking at the book donation boxes they were please there is no there's no prohibition yeah yeah so they they were looking on the brookstown center right as they were right as they were right as they're changing hands deserved they went scared fine yeah they managed trying to just smooth it yeah until we brought it in our zoning it's not prohibited guess what so there's you know there's a band of vehicles there's you know what what is the what is the criteria of signage in windows right in the l salon across the train just put up this huge visual which is interesting but you know all of that a lot of the businesses you put you know the the convenience store we talked to musa who's great we'd love to work with him and try to clean up but he's got stickers on his you know storefront that have been there for you know 10 years um interesting i did reach out to starkey the whole shared streets path from 20 past or the convenience store between the store and santa bender it is the town's obligation that makes me that i thought it was the property or i texted starkey and my sergeant member whose obligation is it to name team that happens but yeah so part of it we're one of the worst offenders so this one didn't be able to double check that so everything's on the list and part of it is we talk with some of the property owners it's the town as well as that so we're we have phones out there that are left over bigger their last wall they're still there from the painting project i mean it's just like we need to clean up the bar acts in some really simple ways but i think that will also send a good message to people on the corner yeah yeah with me or something is it like with me and bill star i'd love to kind of walk through them they saw the draft last fall but it's just like what is it i don't know what he does so what is the violation is it a violation of that i mean probably if not we need to write that in but you know it's like he would know about this head ultimately robert you may know some of this stuff you know bill sterling from a design perspective all you know we could get their good foot um but then again to each property owner then they would see a sound shot of what are we seeing that these people end up if it's signage how can we help them because the process is bathroom to most people i don't believe it as streamlined as possible so they will get through that process when we get the you know salon across which we're going to find the other place inside of the first time
right and you hear from people who actually didn't go through the process they're mad because like well why did i have to go through this and you know nobody else is is you know nobody else seems to have to go through so little things to like to do with students like it's not going to have costs in my mind when i think about the planet but looking at these windows yeah right there's usually stuff on graphics so like if you like other towns have uh sorry talking about graphics yeah yeah yeah usually there's there's you can see that signage creep on the buildings like there's a main signage that you've got to find especially the office building down underneath the window now it's like signs you know it's sort of it's this signage creeps and it's pretty science is there if you think they're all signage permit for anything that's absolutely you're supposed to but so i mean that that's where that stuff is i mean some of the stuff may have predated that but that's where all the stuff is supposed to get brought yeah yeah so it's just and again you have a lot of ideas out there but if you're talking to everybody at once they can signal out like everybody knows that they're laughing and part of it is with just so many potential learning changes is is letting people know like as we through the district these are likely to be things that you see so so getting them in that proactive scene line so this draft letter actually you can tap this off on there so this draft letter and we're going to talk this through but it basically again says what is what's news basically what's planning for each one improvements for that sidewalks upcoming zoning and then how do we clean up the portal so as you guys looked at that is there anything that's missing is there anything that's been trying to keep it upbeat shorter put it through chat you can teach twice to get a bit shorter and then there'd be another letter attached with the i think that to attach this would go out to each property owner and then they have a attach that would be their property that's going to be secure they get one message and then it has quality information well and ideally you know depending on time i don't think i get it out soon but uh knowing when the uh like the counseling presentation is the only thing i think that's is we're calling out for pedo and i'm going to change the train when some of the other business owners be like i think they're a really long time um i don't know in the letter yeah i don't know like i don't know if you'd want to put anything about like a business association i don't know i just feel like both business owners that i didn't even get out the long time i might feel hurt that probably yeah especially like restless i'm feeling you've been here from just talking about that yeah i'm trying to think it gets into that event but maybe it is something like anybody who's more than a uk long we listen and say thank you for sticking here for more than a uk like we want to make sure that that going to a century and so that's why we're trying it's free yeah i think you're awesome yeah super sad yeah i'm in there
so there's good money they're saying that i'm just trying to attack a lot of people about that Yeah, because I mean, the money they're asking for, they're not suggestive, it's a problem. Especially in Eastman, they go across an affordable housing design, but I'll say that. Yeah, it's called out of the road, but at least I mean, there's something so big to a problem that's there. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's a difference between Eastman and Brown. Yeah, literally. Yeah. All right, so we, especially with this association, we don't say anything. So, we, I think we can. That's just a little bit enough for people to learn. Well, what I think people can do is say, well, I think we should mention it and say, hey, we're going to have hearings from, this is the way we do. We're going to have to find a new property. Yeah. So it's beyond the film center, but just looking, but just looking. There are less people who can't help you. Yeah, yeah. So think about it. Yeah. I don't know if we can, like, do you guys have enough now for all these other players? Well, some of them. Yeah. I mean, sometimes we'd mail. We would mail them. Right? And we'd probably send it. It's like, yeah. Right. We can do a question and know that we've got it. But, well, otherwise, I don't know. We do a panel, right? Huh? We do a panel, right? Now that it pulls on the smoke. It's the same thing that she said. Yeah. Yeah. One of them is getting their emails. And that's not in there either, which is requesting their emails that they want to be on. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe, like, you know, when we address it to them, when we put their development to do it. Like, from above, you know. Yeah. That's what we really need, just be able to get to them. Yeah. So the question is, I'm like, how about the comment? Is there a QR code coming here at the end of the play? Like, some of the status or email span, it's just like, some of the things that they say, yeah, that's so easy to have to be able to respond. Yeah. So we didn't know if we were out. I just wanted to dismiss them. Like, maybe just, if you're interested about, like, memes? I don't do too. Yeah. So we can't, like, want to receive, like, read the budget until we go to our digital communications. Mm-hmm. About the town. Yeah. And. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just like, Dave, there's some things to go. And not mentioned anything. What? Why are you just a comment? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. So it could be a way, then, to, like, bring everybody together. Yeah. Yeah. We can gather. We've got five or six minutes. Mm-hmm. To start that process. It can hydrate you up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we get to close the QR code and get this to the wall. And then we'll send it to something. Yeah. Yeah. I think it becomes part of that. I think it becomes part of that. And that's to get kind of communication and updates on our upcoming, like, and updates on the new business associations. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, you know, that's good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, you know, that's good. Yeah. That's good. You're not fine. You're a person who's going to be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I think based on the same side, they're not going to have a small boat in the way around that direction. What they do is probably about anything. And Paul calls him to see this. Oh, they do have anything. Are they doing that? They do it. So great. Yeah. And to the back, 2020. They've been in a whole section that's like, maybe it's dependent, like, to your point. An actual section, if I can thank you for that. To the small system. Our community. Yeah. I think that is. For years. For years. Thank you for your dedication to the private science that here's your potential is. Yeah. And again, the punters. Yeah. Your project is much appreciated. The shoots. Oh. All right. So, we'll add that at the beginning. We'll add the QR code at the end. Right. We'll speak about it. So, we'll update that. We'll just keep aside. We'll send it to Tom and show Tom lots of comments or otherwise. Yeah. So, we can get that moving. In the meantime. All right. I don't know if possible at all. I'm talking even if he wants to have to walk in. We'll walk it out. It would be possible. Right. And get this moving hopefully. All right. So, that is that. Look at the list that we talked about. Um. I actually pulled them all out. I know. So, the data went. But, I don't know. Maybe I was going to look at see what the most important was. So, we had five and then we were going to do a six. Which was getting into the rest of the stuff. Which I dropped the ball. I was supposed to email the guy. So, it was like. So, it was part of it was. Oh. It was five to two. Or, she passed five to two. Or, she passed five to two. Or, she passed five to two. Or, she passed five to two. Or, she passed five to two. Yeah. So, I'm going to change that. I was going to change that. I was going to ask. But, like. You know that for one second. But, I want to make sure I have those. I know. Do we have? No. I emailed it out. So, if you haven't made any changes. Not to that. Oh, there's a half one comment. I'll just change one session. Oh, no. I'm going to go on it. So, that has something to be. And folks. There it is. Yeah. So, this one. I'm just going to change one thing.
So, with this. When we talked last time. About making this bigger. Right. So, it's like. We need to. Understand. The percentage for the commercial is shrinking. Which also feeds it in the split tax rate. Right. So, the discussion is making that bigger. Because it's so small. It just doesn't pop off a date. You guys might have a lot of question about it. I was thinking last time. Oh, sorry. So, wait. So, let's just share. Yeah. So, I don't think I've sent this. I don't know. We talked about it. But ultimately, it didn't accept. So, the question is. Can we make this bigger. So, that this is. This is really one thing. Yeah. Exactly. But not having the rest of it. Like, literally. This is the data that's. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. And then. But not having the rest of it. Like, literally. This is the data that's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then. So, you've got that data. So, what is our official? Our official. We are at what? Or. Oh. So, is that the plan? What was our date? So, trend developers can be 53%. That's interesting. Very. So, it's very small. And we did not change. It's not okay. I don't know. Most of our view. Basically. Do we not. Do we need to. I guess. The other way to think about it. Is we need to label it. That's part of what we're writing minutes. Um. That's amazing. But I think. That's so important. You know. I think it's. This. This. This. This. This. This. Yeah. Yeah. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This is how much commercial land is difficult. This is. This. Yeah. Yeah. And what. The new title. How much land is it. Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But. It's basically. We don't tell them anything about. So. Right. And. It was actually a. I. Overheard of discussions. A pair of discussions. So that. Pie shark. Looking at it from a later point of view. Is. Going subtractive in a way. So. There's almost 20% wetlands. And then wetland buffer areas. But. Conservation land. Is theoretically. More than that. But. Part of it is already. Taken at wetlands. I don't know if we need to explain that. Yeah. We probably don't need to. Because these are the net values. But if. You know. Just letting you know. It's like. I'll be capital. It's like. That place is conservation land. Minus. Right. Yeah. Right. So it goes that way. And we started obviously with wetlands. Assuming. At least for you. One of the most important ones that it has. A larger chunk of areas. Yes. Yes. I think it's fine. I think it's a good point. Okay. It's no interesting. That's great. Yeah. I agree. Totally agree. I'm glad we got into the week a little bit here. Yeah. That's all. We're like a little bit decent. We're not. We're not. We're not. We're not. We're not. We're not. We're not. We're not. We're not. We're not. We're not. We're not. We're below. So how can we increase. Um. I would encourage. Increase this. Encourage work. More tactical space in the same land. You want to add. Encourage. Encourage. Yeah. This is just. See. Just work. And then, um. This. The grid can be achieved. Very tactical space. On the same land. Not small.
Yeah. And revise. For example. Reduce the department. So we understand. So. What's that? I don't know. I've used others. It sounds like there's more. Language changes involving. But I think the concepts. You know. Basically the concept. We just want to encourage. More tactical space. Um. You know. And revise. Um. You know. And revise. I mean. For example. You know. It's just like. You know. It's just like. That just. It's people's brains. That's how. Do you sense me? Um. More tactical space. On the same time. Not small. Or encourage. More tactical space. On the same land. Not small. Achieve. Through. More commercial development. To revise. I mean. Okay. I don't know. Can someone. But the concept is. You know. Get it to be in something that. You know. We. More commercial development. Just not see it. Right. So. But it's literally. It's like. Using space. We have better. That. That's the message. Yeah. Yeah. So. I can. I can do that. But essentially. That's what it is. And then. Yeah. And then. Is there any way. Like. This is really. Like. That. I don't think. See. I've used your template. And. These were the. Margins on that. So. You want to get on it. Yeah. If you go live. The visual. I can figure out. The question is. It might be. It might be. In the margin. But. The page. You're looking at. And. It is. It's at 11. No. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's in the larger. Oh. It's. It's not. It's not. It's. It's a long. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So we should. Let me change it to a paper. Or. Are people going to read it on the phone. Exactly. It looks fine. I think it's fine. That was good. But ultimately. On a page. It's going to print it. I don't want to print it. I don't want to print it. No. I'm just trying to figure out. How do we get more room for that bracket. Well. I think we do. I think we. I think with the tax base over the years. That's it down. Yeah. Because I think. I think. I think. Maybe. Right. It's just kind of like. 3, 3, 1, 2. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think. I think. Maybe. Right. If it's just kind of like. 3, 3, 1, 2. Yeah. It will give you summer. Actually. Yes. The 3. The way. This is set up. You're not. You're not going to get this. You're not going to get this. I don't want to like. Waste time. We're trying to do chicken. The whole thing. Because it's not that long. We need to take two pages. Or be comfortable with something. Longer. Which is the true infographic. Infographics are not 8.5 by 11. Yeah. Yeah. Um. You get all. Like. I would often. I don't want to make more room for you. In general. I feel like. Whaling carries these. You pick them out. I put them in line with this. We could shorten. We don't read all those words. Like. Right. Like. We should be. Running these through. While. Every single time. To be like. I don't see. Think. Yeah. I'm happy to be right. But. Sure. Also. I'm not. I'm just saying. We're always like. I believe. I believe. I believe. I believe. Yeah. I believe it. Okay. So we only need to change his. Uh. That's three seven years. So it's. Oh sorry. Three. So that. You see that. Right. And then. That makes. That bigger. And then. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's fine. Okay. That's fine. Alright. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. Yeah. That's fine. This is just. The data question has nothing to do with it. Yeah. But. Why is the difference between 2020 and 2020 quite so high compared to other levels? And yeah. I think that's nothing to do with this. I'm just. Asking it as a weight loss. So. Like from 2010 to 2015 it's from 3 billion to 3.2 billion. And now from 2020 to 2021 it's from 4 to 5.7. That. Is it just the. General economy. I'm sure. Is it. Why is that? No. Our total tax bill. This amount of. 16. 15 years. It's almost sold. Yeah. And then there's very little movement between 2010 and 2015. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's no idea. Yeah. I think. Probably. There's probably answer. The answer. I. I. It's. It's. It's. Yeah. Well. We. Have. Had. So many. On. That. They are. And. Sometimes you don't have to tax me.
energy costs, everything that's affecting the home budget, it's happening to the towns, but even more so, people will respond to the way health insurance pays, retirement, and those assessments that you're going on, so, you know, I'll pay some inflation, all of it, it's just like college education, it's all for jobs in these days, so, that, that will be right over to life, too. So that, that stat will fall off, we'll just have the portion facts based on that deadlines, so, actually I want to note too, so I went back, so I thought that it dropped substantially in the last 10 to 10 years, but it really, like, 1990, it was a 4.6 percent, like, if we can start in 1990, 2000, 2010, 5, it goes from 4.6 percent to, I think that's the story you want to tell, so I went backwards and looked at, maybe that 70, yeah, 70, yeah, yeah, and that will show that basically, you know, from a commercial perspective, it's a percentage of what they're paying taxes, it's almost, but, yeah, only the last year, 25 to 30 years ago, so, thousand percent of the laboral taxes, we haven't invested well, these, we don't really earn a lot, it's huge, huge, but not, we still have the same number of school kids, we did that, it's not crazy, it doesn't, we're well done. I don't think we're preparing the same for the children. What's that? Less children. Less children. Less children. No, no, no, no, no, when I was a kid, everybody had five, seven, nine kids in the house, and then we, well, we have three, but people, I don't know, I'm Peter Malkin, so I don't want one of the kids, so. All right, so, we'll update, go into a motion to approve as amended, to be implemented. Go into a motion. Motion to approve. Motion to approve. Motion to approve. Motion by Phoebe, do I get a second? Second. Second. Oh, can I get you guys open? Oh, you didn't? All right. Okay, sent in all in favor. No. Roll ball one. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. All right, so we won't do that one, and then I promise it's another rule sent over as you want to be picked one time to move up six. Um, and yeah, so that was according to the survey we talked a little bit, did you get feedback? Just, uh, you, you thought I said it was good, but. I said, I'm not a professional. I'll leave you to the dead people at it if you haven't. That would be great to be running the circle all the time. And then, absolutely. Yeah. Okay. Next to me, we cannot meet in Fridays because the town will be exposed, which I could find you to be out of meetings. So, we'll meet in the sky. Oh, and that, that was the cereal. Is that meeting on Fridays or not? Are they not going to do Fridays? Oh, you won't buy me either. You won't buy me either. You won't buy me either. I won't buy you too. What are you doing? What are you doing? What about the equipment? We do, you know, I have such a good idea. Yeah. So, by Thursdays, July and August, what more screen you guys are waiting for? July. So, July 9th. Yeah. July 9th. Yeah. July 9th. July 9th. Yeah. July 9th. I think that's, that. I think I am on. On 9th, you've been watching. July 9th. So, on Thursday. These guys are . I think that's a good idea. It's my main friend! I'm like, good idea! I think I am on Thursday. Okay, of course I'm not going to do this. It's my main friend! I don't know what you're doing. All right. It's European also. The latest time. It's a Thursday. These guys are proud of you. You're out of the envelope. Oh, that would be a good time for you. It's my main friend! What a good idea! I don't care. I'm sure you don't know what that is. I really love you. All right. Uh, okay. Um, what are you guys- Are you in it all that beating the sticks? I'm not available between the first and the ninth. Oh. I don't, so. Um, all right. So it's literally 10th before visiting. Yeah. Yes. I don't know what kind of work for being in the 10th. Right, okay. 10th? Yeah. 10th before working. Well, what are you just sitting from all week? I mean, I don't know about that. But I mean, but I don't know how many people are working. People aren't dead in our team. You can just do it in person. We've done an in person meeting. Darnards. Darnards. Darnards. What's that? Darnards. I was actually thinking about that earlier. I was actually thinking about that earlier. What if you like fraud? Did I even have fun? I did not. I did not. I did not. Facebook. I did not. All right. Well, one of the- the 10th is only they in July that show. Yeah, that may be the network. Vibrate. It's the Vibrate. That's the public. Then they need to talk to us first. Oh, yes. All right. I'll check COA first. Close both books and- We'll have to go my garden. Yeah. If it- So the 10th is the only day of work and let's- All right. Let's do it. I like it. Liberty, I'm gonna get done early. And then August, while we're all here. So Thursday, the August 13th. August 13th. The main part of the Crystal Balls. The 6th. We have a 20th. And then August 16th. So I think theoretically, I mean, the one, like, to question all of this is that, um, like, summer camps are taking on, like, many of them have started from behind. So again, we're already at 30 would be challenging. So if we start, then at 9. Perhaps we start at 9. I don't think so. Sure. So it's 13th, 20th. We can't do the 6th. Can't do the 6th. Can't do the 5th. Can't do the 5th. 13th. 13th. 13th. 13th. Yeah. So. Is that August 20th? No. How many guys? These are now on 28th. These are here now. Okay. Well, if we have any location, is it possible that we do that on the Friday morning of either the COA or the 14th? Is that one for you? Because you're on 5th. Oh, you? 14th. You're on that week. Friday and the 14th. Yeah. Yeah. Friday and the 7th. Exactly. The first two weeks. Friday and the 7th. He's on the first two weeks. Friday and the 7th. He's on the first two weeks. But the 20th isn't the first. The 21st. And we can swing it. It's Friday better. What do people do? We can do it. Thursday and the better. We can do it. We can do it. Thursday and the better. We can do it. We can do it. Well, that's the thing that I'm going to keep writing it on that day. But I agree. All right. But, Kate, you can't do either one. You're out there the week. You can do it. Okay. All right. Well, why don't we pencil in for the 21st. And since that's Friday, but if we, we'll see on the location list. If not, we'll do 20th. It's bad. Okay. Can I do a calendar? Thank you. Thank you. If I do it on Outlook, you don't get it done. You do? If I do it on Outlook, you don't get it done. You do? I'd say that you sent it to my person. All right. Anybody else if I do an Outlook? Yeah, I'll send it. Yes. Okay. All right. So I'll do those to placeholders. Sounds like a good name. All right. Anything else? Before we turn it off? Yes. All right. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. We are here. 10 to 26.