May 6, 2026 – Historical Commission – Video & Transcript
May 6, 2026 - Historical Commission
We will call this meeting to order of the Wayland Historical Commission on May 6th at 1 p.m.
The meeting may be recorded, and if it's recorded, be made available to the public on WACAM as soon as possible after the meeting.
And pursuant to Chapter 2 of the Act of 2025, the meeting will be conducted in person and or via remote access in accordance with applicable law.
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Any public comment. I don't think we have anybody else online, right? Okay.
Thank you very much. Okay. Next thing is to review the minutes. Does anybody have any comments, changes to the meeting minutes from the prior meeting?
No, I didn't see the minutes. I do have one. Okay. I don't think I adjourned the meeting. I think you did. Brad adjourned the meeting, not me. Yes. Good catch, Sherry Ann. I think you used the previous month's template. That's exactly right. I didn't see the minutes even on my... I read it online, yeah. It's more complicated until you get used to the new website. I couldn't find them. And I had to email Trudy and ask her where they were. Everywhere I searched came up with, for our commission, it came up with the last minutes two months ago and the last agenda two months ago. It said I just couldn't find it. I think if you look on a new web page, on the bottom left, it has agenda and minutes. And you click on that, and then it will go to the various commissions. And then you go down to historical commission. And on the left-hand side, it says agendas. Mm-hmm. And on the far right-hand side, it has a little box that says minutes. And then you click on that. So I think... I haven't got my new website thing for the town. It's for the town. I keep forgetting. Oh, there's Amanda.
Yeah. The other thing I think you can do is also on the calendar that has the days, click on the red dot for our day, and it pops up also. I know there's so long to set due system. Amanda, we're going over the minutes. Did you have any comments on the previous minutes? No comments. Okay.
Can I have a motion to approve the minutes with the one edit that was suggested? So moved. Second? What was the edit? I did not adjourn the meeting, but Brad did. Okay. I approve. Do I have a second on the motion? I'll second. Okay. All in favor? Aye. I don't think we need to do a roll call, or do we? I don't know whether you can hear me. Because Anne's on... I guess we can't hear her sign. Yeah. Is that true? We can't hear her? No, she can hear us. Yeah, she can't hear her. Yeah, we can. Hello. Hello.
Anne, do we have to do a roll call out loud? Because you're online? I don't know the answer to that question. I don't either. I don't either. I think we're good. We might as well. No? I don't know. I think we're good. The next item is Mansion Inn and Dudley Woods signage. I know Rick has been trying to get a site visit, as Anne has. And I don't think there are any updates on that. I just know that we're trying to arrange a site. A site visit to see where to place the signs. Anne, have you heard anything further on that? I haven't. But I was under the impression that... Well, I don't know what Rick is trying to arrange, if he's trying to include other people. But I think one thing we could consider is just planning our own site visit. I've had the... I spoke with... Well, with Tom Holt, who is a builder at DPW, who put me in touch with Tom Lashment. And he went out and marked the boundaries of the town land at the Castle Gate intersection. So if you go there now, you'll see this bright orange paint on a couple of stone markers in the ground and a little bit on the grass. And that shows you where the boundary is between the private property and the town land. So I think, you know, one option would be for us or those of us who want to be included to plan a visit there to look at the boundary and see what we think is possible. I will tell you it's pretty narrow. So there won't be a lot of choices. And, you know, we could do the same thing at Dudley Woods. Plan our own visit, make our own recommendation. I don't know who else. I did contact Catherine Brenna, who's the recreation director, because it is recreation property. And I asked her if she wanted to be involved. And she said, sure, you know, I'm happy to come along if it works out. But it didn't sound like she felt she really needed to be involved. I think we want to keep her in the loop. If we make recommendations about where to place the signs. It seems to me that I read someplace another group is doing a site visit of Dudley Woods. We could just join their group. Right. Well, I think that's what Rick's email was suggesting. It sounds like he had communicated with another group concerning a site visit. But I guess to Ann's point, do we want to try to coordinate with them or just go ahead and have our own site visit? I think it depends on who them is. Is it something that we should be connecting with, like recreation? It was not recreation. I think I don't know. I don't know who Rick's talking to and whether the folks who were involved in the rail trail signs are interested in where the Dudley Woods signs would go. You know, it wasn't the rail trail signs. Why don't I do a little checking? And just find out. It's not available today, but find out who else is involved. It does seem more efficient if we can just have one site visit if there's more than one group interested. So let me check and find out, and I can report back on that. Don't forget, you have to do a notification about a meeting if we all go. Right. Right. And, you know, backing up for a minute. I don't think we... I don't think we've decided who's taking minutes. Ann, are you taking minutes at all? I am, yes. You are? I am. Thank you. Okay. The next item on the agenda is Holiday Road. That was put on prior to the town meeting. As I understand it, the town meeting, the Holiday Road issue has been basically tabled. So it's basically a non-issue, I believe, at this point. I could not make town meeting. Did anybody else go? I couldn't. Okay. I also have a question about the location. I tried to... I wanted to go down the road just to see, and I was very confused. Is it where the synagogue sign... I mean, the Jewish burial is? It's between that and Holiday Road. You went down Holiday then. That is Holiday? Where that... No. No. There's an entrance for the Jewish cemetery. Yeah. But then there's a separate Holiday Road, which is... East. East. East. East. I thought it was off of... Okay. It's in between those two. Off of the road. So I kept... Or if you go down Orchard Lane at the big curve as it comes around again, that whole end of the curve area is part of the property. Okay. Where the woods are, right? I haven't been to... On the curve? So that... Where the woods are. Right there. Right there. Right there. And I took a ride down there. That's the path of it. Try to find it. And we were confused. I really was confused. There's a map. I know. I have that very sheet. I have... I get the newspaper. I couldn't find it. But as I understand it, the town meeting, it was passed over. So there's really no action on it at this point. Thank you. Any reason why? I wasn't at town meeting. I know it did not... I suspect the reason is that the school committee at the last minute withdrew their support. And I know the CIPC did not vote in favor of it. So I'm guessing the select board just tabled it. The next item is the joint program with the HRDEIC. That's a carryover from the last agenda item. I don't have any updates on that. Do you have anything on that? Yes. I'm trying to think of the name. Karen? I'm meeting with her on Friday. Sorry. Tomorrow. Thursday. At 3 at the local. You're welcome to join us if you need to. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm very interested in this. Tomorrow? Where is it? At the local? At the local? I guess we would have to host it. Just a meeting, Tanya, not an event. Oh, no. It's just I'm just meeting. Not a program. The two of us are just sitting down to have a conversation about, about what they do and what to do and what we can do to support them. So three o'clock tomorrow.
No, I'd like to go to that. It's just me, just Karen and me. Oh, that's you? So, well, Karen and me. So you're welcome to come. Okay.
I will say I get an email from somebody saying, I heard the seal had been changed recently, which I had not heard. And he wanted more information and history on the seal and what changes were made. But I'm not aware of any changes. Is there some confusion? Maybe they were thinking that it's the police badge. Perhaps. I will ask if that's the confusion. I think there's one that they're in the flag. Talking about the Massachusetts state flag.
Well, the wailing flag that hangs in the tundra. I don't think it's been changed yet. But this person thought so? Well, the flag is different than the town. I know. But I still don't think it's changed. I'm not aware of it. So I haven't done any research on it or anything. I just read it this morning or actually this afternoon. So Amanda, you'll be able to report back at the next meeting. Okay.
Thank you. So you're like a subcommittee. So you don't have to post it is what I'm saying. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Sherman's Bridge is next. Two things on that working backwards. Again, there were a lot of articles, a town meeting dealing with Sherman's Bridge, and they all either failed or were withdrawn, except for the last one that referenced the fact that the town should negotiate a new agreement for Sherman's Bridge. But he essentially withdrew that. Right. Because everybody was ready to adjourn because we were up at the time limit. Oh, okay. He said it as a joking thing, but it meant, and I mean, and I interpreted it as he was also withdrawing now. Okay. But what I will say is, Amanda, you had sent the letter to Mr. Piccolo, the project manager at DPW that we sent out. He called me. I didn't actually send it, right? No, I sent it. You wrote it. It's a good letter. You wrote it and I sent it. He called me a couple of days after I sent it. And, you know, we had, we had three, three bullet points in the letter that we wanted to address. And he said, basically they've all been addressed and included with the exception of the streetlight. But just to summarize, one is the inclusion of conduit to accommodate fiber optic cables. Right. He said that's being done. Installation of an information kiosk. He indicated he understands that is also being done. The, the, the third one was the replacement of a streetlight.
He said there is no streetlight on the Wayland side. There is a streetlight on the Sudbury side, but there is no street light on the Wayland side. So there's nothing he can do about that. And actually I was curious about that. So I actually drove over there and he's right. There is no streetlight in Wayland.
So basically he's saying, you know, they'll thank you for the letter. I'm in agreement with what you're doing. We're doing because we're that's what we're doing anyway.
Right. So it'd be something that we'd ask the Sudbury. I don't know. His store. No, I don't think it's our business. It's on the Sudbury side. Sudbury's historical commission needs to, but I mean, it, they might not take care of it unless, you know, people say something, right. I'm sure he's heard it from people because that's where we got it from. What's from the public. And I believe, is she on the Sudbury side, the lady that came to talk to us? No, she's not. She's on our seats. She's on, he's on the Wayland side. She's, she's kind of close to she's between Oxford road and old Concord. Whereas Doug is between Oxford road and the bridge. Well, my opinion is that Sudbury historical commission's responsibility. And if she's concerned, she should go. Talk because she's public whether or not she resides in the community. Yeah. I'll ask people to approach because I mean, the light is probably bothersome to some people. I don't know if it's a bright light and it's, I don't know if it's really, I think it was the location of the poll that was upsetting. Wasn't it? I think it was the fact it was not in compliance with this new dark light. I think it's the thing because nine is in some people's.
Well, then it's their responsibility to bring it to the attention of the Sudbury historical commission. I think that's yeah. And I think it's a little outside our. Yeah, it's not quite what we're responsible for. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Okay.
Next is House Plaques Report. There's only one thing to report. We have received actually a follow on request for a 96 Main Street. It's known as the. William Bent House. The woman who put in the application has basically renewed the request. There was an issue of what is the age of the house? She sent us an email. I think you were copied on it. And she said she believes the house was built between 1887 and 1894. And she suggested that she may have communicated with you. And I have no memory of it whatsoever. Is that the house on the corner of Chalmette and in Main Street? I believe that's where it is. Because the house behind it, I do know that originally sat in that location and was moved back. And I think it and I think that's on Macris and we should check with Macris for the house behind it on Chalmette to see if it tells us what year it was moved back. And that'll tell us what year that house probably is. But I don't know if it was built in 1897 or close enough. Well, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, I guess the question I have, I mean, well, she's representing us. It was built between 1887 and 19 1894 and is requesting the factory at 1890. Kind of a split. And I guess I guess I'm wondering. So you think we need to check Macris on that? I would check the house behind it to see what it was. Move back. And that will at least give us the the date that it couldn't have been built before because the house, the other house was there. Maybe it will help us narrow it down. Then I can do a deed search for it and see. I don't know what it'll say, whether, you know, sometimes they say house and sometimes they don't. Is that something you could do for us? I can. I don't know. Can't tell you when exactly. But I can try. OK, yeah, if you could. And then then I can get back to the woman who submitted the request. But you told her we would be happy to to to do it just for checking the date. Well, I told her I needed to. Her email said that she had already conferred with Kay and that they had pinpointed it to those dates. Kay doesn't necessarily have that recollection. So we do need to get back to her. So I didn't commit to her. I said I would. Okay. So I'm going to defer with Kay and get back to her. But if it if it's between 1887 and 1894, I'm perfectly comfortable with the plaques in 1890. I don't have a problem with that. So that far back, nobody bothered to make a notation of when the house was built. I don't know. Well, when you get deeds, you're getting deeds for the land, not necessarily. And I can't hear you. But you get a deed is for the land and not the buildings. Necessarily on it. But if she took it, if that owner took out a mortgage, the mortgage is also recorded. And that will tell you whether or not there were buildings on the land. Like they'll say the barn in the hen house or the house in the born in the hen house. And so there's a deed for the land. But no, no record of when a house was built that I know of. I haven't looked yet. Oh, okay. If I have, I don't remember looking. That's interesting. Sorry. Remind me, is it there? We still have a hundred years or did we change that? I'll change that. Yeah. To what? To 75. 75. So so it's well within. Oh, yes. She's getting a plaque. We just want to be sure we put the best date on it. We can. Yeah, that's what I wanted to make sure. Right. Yes. I thought that somewhere a year back that we voted that the house was 75 years old. If you have a flat. That's what they just said. Yeah. Yeah. The age is not an issue. It's just a matter of the date for the plaque. Well, I know. But my house is about 75 years old. And 73 years old. I had I had an inquiry at the house tours actually from someone who was interested and wanted to know how they could get a plaque. Oh, good. And I told them the Historical Commission could help them with that. They wanted to know if there was an age. Limitation. And I said, I thought it was 75 years. Yeah. That's what we got another request. Good. And maybe it's a time to put out a little note somehow to let the public know that a good idea that blacks are available for houses that qualify and whatever. Well, maybe when she gets her plaque and she puts it up and we ask that they take pictures of them, put it up and we put a little article in the post. Yeah. Yeah. Mine's 70. So I'm definitely going to get mine. Thank you, Kay. The next item in this cemetery project, which is me and Ann. And at this point, it's somewhat stalled because Kelsey Kelsey has received the revised bid document. We did get that from Epic. But then Kelsey was absorbed, of course, with town meeting. And so I just actually followed up with her. This morning, I sent her an email and asked if she could put it back on her radar. So at this point, we need to get the bid documents out. Kelsey is going to I asked her to take a look at them, get back to me if she has any questions, comments. So unfortunately, we've had been delayed largely because of the town meeting issue. So with hope that the next meeting I can provide a more substantive report. The next item is the archaeology lab report. Well, Amanda had left a bag of things for me to check out, and I did this morning and I didn't get rid of everything except the ceramics because we can put it in the exhibit box. Yeah, we have no definite provenance on the map that we can locate. We never got a real map for Castle Hill because I was worried about that when we dug there. And I kept saying. We need a map. And Bobby Robinson kept saying, well, look at a map that it'll be here. But I never saw a map. So that makes it hard to get provenance. So I looked at those bones. I had to break some of them to make sure they were calcined, but they were just in slender pieces. So I just put rid of them. OK, so I think the exhibit box would be good for this. Ceramics. OK, great. So we have probably about seven small boxes of artifacts left for Castle Hill, and then we'll be done with the artifacts. And like I said, I'm still plugging through the one last box of Sand Hill, trying to find homes for things and make logical connections where they should be. And then we'll open it up to the next project. So with those two projects, we're pretty far along. Sandy was working on the Castle Hill stuff. Margaret was in the lab doing some things with the computer, and I was talking to them and reading the annals of Wayland. So the boxes, I don't know if the second shipment of boxes arrived, but we have all the bags and boxes. And another. The other shipment was stalled for some reason, but it's coming, and it's not pressing. So we're in good shape. Great. I have a question. I mentioned to a number of people about the archaeology lab and how people are there on Wednesday morning. And I said, you know, it's open to the public. They can come and see it. So I was wondering, should we make like a formal the first Wednesday of the month? Or something and write a little article for the Wayland Post inviting people to come on a certain day? They may never show up, but then again, they might. Yeah, sure. I think maybe beginning of September, since summer. What did she say? I couldn't. Maybe write an article for the Post to say that we're open the first Wednesday of every month to come visit or something like that. Yeah, that's a good idea. I also was hoping for the summer only because they have children at home during the summer. Right. I won't be here a lot of the summer. So I'm going to be working remotely. Right. What about Tanya?
Are you going to be here on Wednesday mornings during the summer? Generally, yes. I think we're going away to Maine in July sometime for a week. But that's all. I know we're going to be away. What I was thinking is, does somebody have an email that I can use for people to make appointments so that way people don't show up and nobody's there?
What did she say again? She wants to know what email she should use for people that want to book an appointment of ours. I'm assuming that it'll be a town email, not a personal email. Maybe the town email would be most appropriate, I think. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, you don't want to give your personal email. Yeah, I have to go up and get another email address because with my foot, I haven't been going up there. But now it's all better, so I can do it. I wonder if they could set up an automatic forward for me.
I automatically forward mine. You can do it yourself. Okay. And you go in and you can set it up. I've never seen that. Look, I have it set up in Google, but not.
You know, it's been so long. I can ask chat or something. I'm sure IP can help you with that. You know, it was a suggestion by Elisa and I just followed up on it and did it way back when. It's a good one. I have another idea that I'm mulling over, but I don't want to, I don't know if I'm prepared to talk about it without talking to Tanya first. It's related to it. You know, educational and marketing.
Do you want to take a stab at preparing that article that Kay was talking about? I am like up to here until after my daughter's wedding and my son's graduation and work. And I've got a lot right now on my plate. I'm not supposed to arrive today. Well, there's no rush. I mean, yeah, I'm not suggestion. Yeah, I can't do it right now. Maybe in July. That's fine. I mean, I'm happy to help. Okay. I just can't. I just don't have the real estate to think about it. And I know some I'll drop a ball. I don't want to. That's good.
The next item is the Wayland Festival. Kay, do you want to do you want to talk about that? Yeah, you guys did such a fabulous job last time with the Wayland Festival. And if we get, I'm assuming that we'll be involved. And it was fun to do our own show. I was, always an adventurer. I was invited again, since people talked about it and said, what a good time they had at the table. I just wondered. You I looked at the handouts that we have, and they're good this they're very good. And so there's no reason to do a handout. But I wondered for displays. Maybe something added to it or exchange. Just to. and the rest of you did the archeology materials that were out on the table. What else was there? Do you remember? I think it was mainly the box, archeology box. Do we have a plaque or a picture of a plaque or something? There was a picture of a plaque. I feel like that was actually something that people were interested in. So it ties into promoting the 70, getting people the information out there that 75 years. Okay. You've got archeology, Bob. No, we're talking about, remember at the Wayland festival that we did last fall, we had the archeology box and we're talking about doing a table and Kay is suggesting we do something in addition, I guess one thing- In addition or exchange one, if Rick has something different for the railroads, a different sign, because I saw people talking to both topics and animated about it and really interested in it. But so my question is, do we want to do the same thing again, which might not get people back? Or do we want to add something that is interactive that people could try, whether they're digging in the sand for something, or you could talk about, I don't know. Well, one thing that you could think about is, Anne did a great job with the signs and you could actually do a poster of the signs for Dudley Woods and Castle Hill and actually show those. And that might have people get interested enough to go to Dudley Woods or Castle Gate. You have to remember, Anne's not going to be here. No, I know, but I mean, no, she did the signs, but we could make a poster of the signs. Yes, great idea. I like it. We'll see. Also, Tanya, could bring, instead of bringing artifacts, you could bring one of your skeletons. No, I couldn't do that. They might get attention to see a skeleton set up. Yeah. You know, I'm not suggesting anything big or over the top. I'm just saying that something a little bit different than what we did last year, so that we're not- Well, I could even bring a microscope and have, I know one program we did many years ago upstairs in the room in Russell's, I brought a microscope, I think it was up there, and I brought some bones. And the little kids love those. They love to look at them, the bones really interested them. So I could do that, too. We could just get kind of like one of those silver bats, I think we used to have one out, you know, that, I don't, just, an iron, stainless steel tub, and fill it with clay sand and hide candy in there. And the kids could dig around. I was going to bury the bones. Yeah, and just, and then kids can dig around for candy. Dig for the bones. I don't know. Little kids. Well, kids love to look at bones. The thing is, it's not, the sand is too, you'll find a bone too quick. It's not as, I've done a lot of excavations with kids, faux excavations, and sand is, they go through it too fast to make it, their attention span, they're going to go through it, they're going to get the thing. So it's better if it's kind of hard to dig. And that's why those kits that they sell, it's like in sandstone almost, right? You have to kind of chip at it. Because. Yeah. And it's in the archeology lab. We used to have kids come in and we'd have microscopes and they'd be. Well, the microscopes is a good idea. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. With the bones. So that was pretty popular with them. I mean, they didn't always know what they were looking at, but they were interested in it. Yeah. And that's good too, because that captures a different age group. Yeah. It sounds like you have a lot of good ideas. I'm going to leave that up to you. We'll decide when we get close. So. Yeah. What was that in? That was October. Yeah. It was the first weekend in October. Yeah. I think those are all good ideas. Why don't we put it on not necessarily next month, but the month after give it a little more thought and then try to refine it. And. Yeah. I just wanted to bring people's consciousness about it. So it's not a last minute deal. I mean, there was a lot of pressure put on in and you and everybody to come up with something at the last minute. And you all did. So it was great. No, it's great. It's great. The last item is matters not reasonably anticipated by the chair. And actually I got an email this morning. I don't remember the last meeting, the meeting before, but there's the Metro west historical preservation trust. Is setting up a meeting to discuss preservation requirements and regulations. And I, you know, I think it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, there's several, there's several meetings. To discuss preservation requirements and regulations. And I volunteered to participate in that. It looks like they're trying to set it up for sometime in June. Sometime between June 8th and June 29th. So I filled out a calendar indicating my availability. So I suspect it'll be sometime in June. And after it happens, I can, I can report back on that. The only other thing I thought up this, and has done a wonderful job of putting that together with photos and everything doesn't mean anything is that a rule no i don't think they're due in june no september june is the end june is the end of the fiscal year right yeah and so our the regrets went up to july 1st in what we put in it right right not due until september but the report doesn't come out in due i mean i don't know when the due date is but it doesn't i'll have to look back in my records sometime in the fall yeah that would make sense the report would be through the fiscal year but it was it's not submitted until the fall right keep it on our radar so it won't be last minute
yeah last year i uh we produced it in september okay that's uh all i had does anybody else have any other items not reasonably anticipated and well i was going to say this is your second meeting are you going to continue the through the summer uh i'd prefer not to i have another um meeting next or for june um and then july and august i'm going to be a a fair amount so it'd be my preference not to do it for uh july and august i thought we usually took a break during the summer well we found in the past when we take break in august last time we did it in july i believe was that we're so far behind in september when everybody else is already ahead of us and they're planning and everything else and that august was not a good time to take a break but july was a better time i i won't be here for the meetings in july and august so i could maybe do remote well you know yeah depends on whether or not we have a quorum yeah our next meeting is scheduled for june three i'll be here you better start talking to your fellow commissioners to see who you can get to take your place right we need somebody sherry and did it for three months i did it for three months so we'll need uh somebody to step up for three months if we take uh july or august you know obviously even work around it but everybody can think about that but thank you for raising that any other items no it's not the um the minutes where they did you sherry and do you have the minutes there i have my rough copy yes yeah there were a couple of minutes i had a couple of minutes i had a couple of minutes i had a couple of minutes a couple things that you were going to follow up on oh and i don't know if you recall in the minutes that you prepared for the last meeting there were a couple things that k said i volunteered to follow up on which i guess i have not okay i don't know if you recall what those are there's something to do with the cemetery well cemetery i'm definitely following up on okay yeah well one of the things that i've tried to follow oh i'm sorry one of the things that i've tried to follow up on but i haven't been working at it very assiduously because of my leg but now that's better so um i i don't know if you remember a couple of years ago when we had us a graduate student from umass boston come and give a talk about the artifacts from joe gussell's property what is it 16 60 something old sunbury road right next to the cemetery you'd be wrong about and they signed a paper he and his professor that within a year they would give us back the artifacts but they never did he graduated and moved immediately to the west part of the state no forwarding information the professor isn't there and the woman who's in charge of that sort of thing was is decided it wasn't she was seems to be high and i'm not and she hasn't accepted it but she boorarMe too is but and so umass boston has got our collection and i would like to have it back and because they promise they give it back and i've got the paperwork to prove it but i think it's going to take a trip down there and i can probably get tom to and i can probably get tom to take me unless somebody else would like to drive me down there that i'm going to only go to the cemetery so i wanted them to getilench계 but oh well that was not i have any evidence in my it because I don't drive down there anymore, and we could look into it. I've talked to her on the telephone, but I need to get back and maybe try another person in the anthropology department, but it's kind of a tough thing to get. Tanya, was there anything, was this excavated properly, this material? No, it's things that Jo found in her garden as she gardened.
And the kid did a great job with it. He wrote a report. We never got the report. He never sent it to me. I almost think the report is more important than the artifacts. Yes. Well, I want the artifacts back because there are artifacts. I guess, Tanya, what I would suggest is I think just making a trip there is not going to be productive. I think you need to have an individual set up an appointment in advance. Of course. Of course. Right, right, right. Some sort of written indication first. Is there a list of the items that he took? He didn't give us any of that. Did you all make a list before you gave him the items? So what does the actual… How could you make a list? I wouldn't know. I don't know what to call them. Tanya, the thing he signed, this… I have it. I have it. Yeah. There's not any… Description? Yeah. There's nothing. Usually there's lines that say, you know… Where you list the items. Exactly. You list items. No, no, no. We didn't have a list of items. We just gave him the box. And what does the actual document say? I mean, I didn't bring it with me. My other phone. Okay. Okay. Maybe if you could… If you have time, maybe you could do a little more follow-up with the person at UMass Boston. And if necessary, we could even write a letter on our letterhead saying, give it back. I mean, in polite terms. I have the letter already written. Okay. This was before I came. So it was quite a long time ago, Tanya. Yeah. Did you ask Eric about it when he excavated Olsenbury Road? It wasn't excavated. No, Eric. When Eric excavated… When Eric excavated the Dory House, did you ask him about it? About what? This other… The Gossel Garden and the artifacts that came out of it. No, because that was UMass Amherst, and this is UMass Boston. Oh, UMass Boston. Yeah. Okay. And I know another professor down there, and I'm going to try to get in touch with him. I know one, too. I know one. Okay. Okay. Well, yeah, if you could follow up and then report back on it, that would be great. Yeah, because that's a big frustration for me. So, Brad, I wanted to follow up on a couple of things. One, Rick did have his cleanup this past weekend. I happened to see him, and he had maybe two or three people with him. That was Sunday afternoon. I don't know how the rest of the… The weekend went. I don't know if anybody else saw him. He was… Okay. He was west of the depot when I saw him, further down. And then I wanted to mention the Francis Perkins program. We had, what, 58 people there, which was a nice crowd. It wasn't too crowded and everything. She, I thought, did a lovely job. I don't know. Ian, what did you think?
You're muted.
I thought she was terrific, and I thought the audience really, really enjoyed it. Good questions from the audience. Yeah. We had our donation box out. Yeah. That's great. So, I'm signing a contract with History at Play again to do Rachel Wevere, which is what the Rev 250 has suggested, again at the Vokes Theater on August 30th. So, if you… So, if you can spread the word, tell your friends and everybody else, hopefully we'll do a better job of advertising the second History at Play than the first one, which was sort of short notice. But now we have more notice. We can hopefully do that. And the… I'm still trying to reach out to Vokes for reenactors for the September-slash-October Cemetery Walk. So, that kind of brings you up on what we've been doing for the 50th as far as the commission is concerned. Perhaps the gentleman who lives in the Bent House would be willing. In the what house? Bent? Oh, the Bent House. Yes. Well, perhaps, and I'm happy to have anybody at this point, but I'm waiting for John's response before I reach out to the public, because I was also hoping maybe some of the students at the high school might be interested. Maybe they're interested in doing something that are into theater. We do have a 15-year-old boy on the tour, so maybe they'd be interested. So, anyway, that's where that stands at the moment, just to update you all and to ask for your help on getting people out on August 30th, which is a Sunday afternoon at 2 p.m. And it's the day before school, so hopefully families are back in town. And encourage them to bring their middle school or high school children with them.
Okay. Well, can I have a motion to adjourn? So moved. Second? Second. All in favor? Aye. We are adjourned. Thank you, everybody. Thank you.
Any public comment. I don't think we have anybody else online, right? Okay.
Thank you very much. Okay. Next thing is to review the minutes. Does anybody have any comments, changes to the meeting minutes from the prior meeting?
No, I didn't see the minutes. I do have one. Okay. I don't think I adjourned the meeting. I think you did. Brad adjourned the meeting, not me. Yes. Good catch, Sherry Ann. I think you used the previous month's template. That's exactly right. I didn't see the minutes even on my... I read it online, yeah. It's more complicated until you get used to the new website. I couldn't find them. And I had to email Trudy and ask her where they were. Everywhere I searched came up with, for our commission, it came up with the last minutes two months ago and the last agenda two months ago. It said I just couldn't find it. I think if you look on a new web page, on the bottom left, it has agenda and minutes. And you click on that, and then it will go to the various commissions. And then you go down to historical commission. And on the left-hand side, it says agendas. Mm-hmm. And on the far right-hand side, it has a little box that says minutes. And then you click on that. So I think... I haven't got my new website thing for the town. It's for the town. I keep forgetting. Oh, there's Amanda.
Yeah. The other thing I think you can do is also on the calendar that has the days, click on the red dot for our day, and it pops up also. I know there's so long to set due system. Amanda, we're going over the minutes. Did you have any comments on the previous minutes? No comments. Okay.
Can I have a motion to approve the minutes with the one edit that was suggested? So moved. Second? What was the edit? I did not adjourn the meeting, but Brad did. Okay. I approve. Do I have a second on the motion? I'll second. Okay. All in favor? Aye. I don't think we need to do a roll call, or do we? I don't know whether you can hear me. Because Anne's on... I guess we can't hear her sign. Yeah. Is that true? We can't hear her? No, she can hear us. Yeah, she can't hear her. Yeah, we can. Hello. Hello.
Anne, do we have to do a roll call out loud? Because you're online? I don't know the answer to that question. I don't either. I don't either. I think we're good. We might as well. No? I don't know. I think we're good. The next item is Mansion Inn and Dudley Woods signage. I know Rick has been trying to get a site visit, as Anne has. And I don't think there are any updates on that. I just know that we're trying to arrange a site. A site visit to see where to place the signs. Anne, have you heard anything further on that? I haven't. But I was under the impression that... Well, I don't know what Rick is trying to arrange, if he's trying to include other people. But I think one thing we could consider is just planning our own site visit. I've had the... I spoke with... Well, with Tom Holt, who is a builder at DPW, who put me in touch with Tom Lashment. And he went out and marked the boundaries of the town land at the Castle Gate intersection. So if you go there now, you'll see this bright orange paint on a couple of stone markers in the ground and a little bit on the grass. And that shows you where the boundary is between the private property and the town land. So I think, you know, one option would be for us or those of us who want to be included to plan a visit there to look at the boundary and see what we think is possible. I will tell you it's pretty narrow. So there won't be a lot of choices. And, you know, we could do the same thing at Dudley Woods. Plan our own visit, make our own recommendation. I don't know who else. I did contact Catherine Brenna, who's the recreation director, because it is recreation property. And I asked her if she wanted to be involved. And she said, sure, you know, I'm happy to come along if it works out. But it didn't sound like she felt she really needed to be involved. I think we want to keep her in the loop. If we make recommendations about where to place the signs. It seems to me that I read someplace another group is doing a site visit of Dudley Woods. We could just join their group. Right. Well, I think that's what Rick's email was suggesting. It sounds like he had communicated with another group concerning a site visit. But I guess to Ann's point, do we want to try to coordinate with them or just go ahead and have our own site visit? I think it depends on who them is. Is it something that we should be connecting with, like recreation? It was not recreation. I think I don't know. I don't know who Rick's talking to and whether the folks who were involved in the rail trail signs are interested in where the Dudley Woods signs would go. You know, it wasn't the rail trail signs. Why don't I do a little checking? And just find out. It's not available today, but find out who else is involved. It does seem more efficient if we can just have one site visit if there's more than one group interested. So let me check and find out, and I can report back on that. Don't forget, you have to do a notification about a meeting if we all go. Right. Right. And, you know, backing up for a minute. I don't think we... I don't think we've decided who's taking minutes. Ann, are you taking minutes at all? I am, yes. You are? I am. Thank you. Okay. The next item on the agenda is Holiday Road. That was put on prior to the town meeting. As I understand it, the town meeting, the Holiday Road issue has been basically tabled. So it's basically a non-issue, I believe, at this point. I could not make town meeting. Did anybody else go? I couldn't. Okay. I also have a question about the location. I tried to... I wanted to go down the road just to see, and I was very confused. Is it where the synagogue sign... I mean, the Jewish burial is? It's between that and Holiday Road. You went down Holiday then. That is Holiday? Where that... No. No. There's an entrance for the Jewish cemetery. Yeah. But then there's a separate Holiday Road, which is... East. East. East. East. I thought it was off of... Okay. It's in between those two. Off of the road. So I kept... Or if you go down Orchard Lane at the big curve as it comes around again, that whole end of the curve area is part of the property. Okay. Where the woods are, right? I haven't been to... On the curve? So that... Where the woods are. Right there. Right there. Right there. And I took a ride down there. That's the path of it. Try to find it. And we were confused. I really was confused. There's a map. I know. I have that very sheet. I have... I get the newspaper. I couldn't find it. But as I understand it, the town meeting, it was passed over. So there's really no action on it at this point. Thank you. Any reason why? I wasn't at town meeting. I know it did not... I suspect the reason is that the school committee at the last minute withdrew their support. And I know the CIPC did not vote in favor of it. So I'm guessing the select board just tabled it. The next item is the joint program with the HRDEIC. That's a carryover from the last agenda item. I don't have any updates on that. Do you have anything on that? Yes. I'm trying to think of the name. Karen? I'm meeting with her on Friday. Sorry. Tomorrow. Thursday. At 3 at the local. You're welcome to join us if you need to. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm very interested in this. Tomorrow? Where is it? At the local? At the local? I guess we would have to host it. Just a meeting, Tanya, not an event. Oh, no. It's just I'm just meeting. Not a program. The two of us are just sitting down to have a conversation about, about what they do and what to do and what we can do to support them. So three o'clock tomorrow.
No, I'd like to go to that. It's just me, just Karen and me. Oh, that's you? So, well, Karen and me. So you're welcome to come. Okay.
I will say I get an email from somebody saying, I heard the seal had been changed recently, which I had not heard. And he wanted more information and history on the seal and what changes were made. But I'm not aware of any changes. Is there some confusion? Maybe they were thinking that it's the police badge. Perhaps. I will ask if that's the confusion. I think there's one that they're in the flag. Talking about the Massachusetts state flag.
Well, the wailing flag that hangs in the tundra. I don't think it's been changed yet. But this person thought so? Well, the flag is different than the town. I know. But I still don't think it's changed. I'm not aware of it. So I haven't done any research on it or anything. I just read it this morning or actually this afternoon. So Amanda, you'll be able to report back at the next meeting. Okay.
Thank you. So you're like a subcommittee. So you don't have to post it is what I'm saying. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Sherman's Bridge is next. Two things on that working backwards. Again, there were a lot of articles, a town meeting dealing with Sherman's Bridge, and they all either failed or were withdrawn, except for the last one that referenced the fact that the town should negotiate a new agreement for Sherman's Bridge. But he essentially withdrew that. Right. Because everybody was ready to adjourn because we were up at the time limit. Oh, okay. He said it as a joking thing, but it meant, and I mean, and I interpreted it as he was also withdrawing now. Okay. But what I will say is, Amanda, you had sent the letter to Mr. Piccolo, the project manager at DPW that we sent out. He called me. I didn't actually send it, right? No, I sent it. You wrote it. It's a good letter. You wrote it and I sent it. He called me a couple of days after I sent it. And, you know, we had, we had three, three bullet points in the letter that we wanted to address. And he said, basically they've all been addressed and included with the exception of the streetlight. But just to summarize, one is the inclusion of conduit to accommodate fiber optic cables. Right. He said that's being done. Installation of an information kiosk. He indicated he understands that is also being done. The, the, the third one was the replacement of a streetlight.
He said there is no streetlight on the Wayland side. There is a streetlight on the Sudbury side, but there is no street light on the Wayland side. So there's nothing he can do about that. And actually I was curious about that. So I actually drove over there and he's right. There is no streetlight in Wayland.
So basically he's saying, you know, they'll thank you for the letter. I'm in agreement with what you're doing. We're doing because we're that's what we're doing anyway.
Right. So it'd be something that we'd ask the Sudbury. I don't know. His store. No, I don't think it's our business. It's on the Sudbury side. Sudbury's historical commission needs to, but I mean, it, they might not take care of it unless, you know, people say something, right. I'm sure he's heard it from people because that's where we got it from. What's from the public. And I believe, is she on the Sudbury side, the lady that came to talk to us? No, she's not. She's on our seats. She's on, he's on the Wayland side. She's, she's kind of close to she's between Oxford road and old Concord. Whereas Doug is between Oxford road and the bridge. Well, my opinion is that Sudbury historical commission's responsibility. And if she's concerned, she should go. Talk because she's public whether or not she resides in the community. Yeah. I'll ask people to approach because I mean, the light is probably bothersome to some people. I don't know if it's a bright light and it's, I don't know if it's really, I think it was the location of the poll that was upsetting. Wasn't it? I think it was the fact it was not in compliance with this new dark light. I think it's the thing because nine is in some people's.
Well, then it's their responsibility to bring it to the attention of the Sudbury historical commission. I think that's yeah. And I think it's a little outside our. Yeah, it's not quite what we're responsible for. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Okay.
Next is House Plaques Report. There's only one thing to report. We have received actually a follow on request for a 96 Main Street. It's known as the. William Bent House. The woman who put in the application has basically renewed the request. There was an issue of what is the age of the house? She sent us an email. I think you were copied on it. And she said she believes the house was built between 1887 and 1894. And she suggested that she may have communicated with you. And I have no memory of it whatsoever. Is that the house on the corner of Chalmette and in Main Street? I believe that's where it is. Because the house behind it, I do know that originally sat in that location and was moved back. And I think it and I think that's on Macris and we should check with Macris for the house behind it on Chalmette to see if it tells us what year it was moved back. And that'll tell us what year that house probably is. But I don't know if it was built in 1897 or close enough. Well, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, I guess the question I have, I mean, well, she's representing us. It was built between 1887 and 19 1894 and is requesting the factory at 1890. Kind of a split. And I guess I guess I'm wondering. So you think we need to check Macris on that? I would check the house behind it to see what it was. Move back. And that will at least give us the the date that it couldn't have been built before because the house, the other house was there. Maybe it will help us narrow it down. Then I can do a deed search for it and see. I don't know what it'll say, whether, you know, sometimes they say house and sometimes they don't. Is that something you could do for us? I can. I don't know. Can't tell you when exactly. But I can try. OK, yeah, if you could. And then then I can get back to the woman who submitted the request. But you told her we would be happy to to to do it just for checking the date. Well, I told her I needed to. Her email said that she had already conferred with Kay and that they had pinpointed it to those dates. Kay doesn't necessarily have that recollection. So we do need to get back to her. So I didn't commit to her. I said I would. Okay. So I'm going to defer with Kay and get back to her. But if it if it's between 1887 and 1894, I'm perfectly comfortable with the plaques in 1890. I don't have a problem with that. So that far back, nobody bothered to make a notation of when the house was built. I don't know. Well, when you get deeds, you're getting deeds for the land, not necessarily. And I can't hear you. But you get a deed is for the land and not the buildings. Necessarily on it. But if she took it, if that owner took out a mortgage, the mortgage is also recorded. And that will tell you whether or not there were buildings on the land. Like they'll say the barn in the hen house or the house in the born in the hen house. And so there's a deed for the land. But no, no record of when a house was built that I know of. I haven't looked yet. Oh, okay. If I have, I don't remember looking. That's interesting. Sorry. Remind me, is it there? We still have a hundred years or did we change that? I'll change that. Yeah. To what? To 75. 75. So so it's well within. Oh, yes. She's getting a plaque. We just want to be sure we put the best date on it. We can. Yeah, that's what I wanted to make sure. Right. Yes. I thought that somewhere a year back that we voted that the house was 75 years old. If you have a flat. That's what they just said. Yeah. Yeah. The age is not an issue. It's just a matter of the date for the plaque. Well, I know. But my house is about 75 years old. And 73 years old. I had I had an inquiry at the house tours actually from someone who was interested and wanted to know how they could get a plaque. Oh, good. And I told them the Historical Commission could help them with that. They wanted to know if there was an age. Limitation. And I said, I thought it was 75 years. Yeah. That's what we got another request. Good. And maybe it's a time to put out a little note somehow to let the public know that a good idea that blacks are available for houses that qualify and whatever. Well, maybe when she gets her plaque and she puts it up and we ask that they take pictures of them, put it up and we put a little article in the post. Yeah. Yeah. Mine's 70. So I'm definitely going to get mine. Thank you, Kay. The next item in this cemetery project, which is me and Ann. And at this point, it's somewhat stalled because Kelsey Kelsey has received the revised bid document. We did get that from Epic. But then Kelsey was absorbed, of course, with town meeting. And so I just actually followed up with her. This morning, I sent her an email and asked if she could put it back on her radar. So at this point, we need to get the bid documents out. Kelsey is going to I asked her to take a look at them, get back to me if she has any questions, comments. So unfortunately, we've had been delayed largely because of the town meeting issue. So with hope that the next meeting I can provide a more substantive report. The next item is the archaeology lab report. Well, Amanda had left a bag of things for me to check out, and I did this morning and I didn't get rid of everything except the ceramics because we can put it in the exhibit box. Yeah, we have no definite provenance on the map that we can locate. We never got a real map for Castle Hill because I was worried about that when we dug there. And I kept saying. We need a map. And Bobby Robinson kept saying, well, look at a map that it'll be here. But I never saw a map. So that makes it hard to get provenance. So I looked at those bones. I had to break some of them to make sure they were calcined, but they were just in slender pieces. So I just put rid of them. OK, so I think the exhibit box would be good for this. Ceramics. OK, great. So we have probably about seven small boxes of artifacts left for Castle Hill, and then we'll be done with the artifacts. And like I said, I'm still plugging through the one last box of Sand Hill, trying to find homes for things and make logical connections where they should be. And then we'll open it up to the next project. So with those two projects, we're pretty far along. Sandy was working on the Castle Hill stuff. Margaret was in the lab doing some things with the computer, and I was talking to them and reading the annals of Wayland. So the boxes, I don't know if the second shipment of boxes arrived, but we have all the bags and boxes. And another. The other shipment was stalled for some reason, but it's coming, and it's not pressing. So we're in good shape. Great. I have a question. I mentioned to a number of people about the archaeology lab and how people are there on Wednesday morning. And I said, you know, it's open to the public. They can come and see it. So I was wondering, should we make like a formal the first Wednesday of the month? Or something and write a little article for the Wayland Post inviting people to come on a certain day? They may never show up, but then again, they might. Yeah, sure. I think maybe beginning of September, since summer. What did she say? I couldn't. Maybe write an article for the Post to say that we're open the first Wednesday of every month to come visit or something like that. Yeah, that's a good idea. I also was hoping for the summer only because they have children at home during the summer. Right. I won't be here a lot of the summer. So I'm going to be working remotely. Right. What about Tanya?
Are you going to be here on Wednesday mornings during the summer? Generally, yes. I think we're going away to Maine in July sometime for a week. But that's all. I know we're going to be away. What I was thinking is, does somebody have an email that I can use for people to make appointments so that way people don't show up and nobody's there?
What did she say again? She wants to know what email she should use for people that want to book an appointment of ours. I'm assuming that it'll be a town email, not a personal email. Maybe the town email would be most appropriate, I think. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, you don't want to give your personal email. Yeah, I have to go up and get another email address because with my foot, I haven't been going up there. But now it's all better, so I can do it. I wonder if they could set up an automatic forward for me.
I automatically forward mine. You can do it yourself. Okay. And you go in and you can set it up. I've never seen that. Look, I have it set up in Google, but not.
You know, it's been so long. I can ask chat or something. I'm sure IP can help you with that. You know, it was a suggestion by Elisa and I just followed up on it and did it way back when. It's a good one. I have another idea that I'm mulling over, but I don't want to, I don't know if I'm prepared to talk about it without talking to Tanya first. It's related to it. You know, educational and marketing.
Do you want to take a stab at preparing that article that Kay was talking about? I am like up to here until after my daughter's wedding and my son's graduation and work. And I've got a lot right now on my plate. I'm not supposed to arrive today. Well, there's no rush. I mean, yeah, I'm not suggestion. Yeah, I can't do it right now. Maybe in July. That's fine. I mean, I'm happy to help. Okay. I just can't. I just don't have the real estate to think about it. And I know some I'll drop a ball. I don't want to. That's good.
The next item is the Wayland Festival. Kay, do you want to do you want to talk about that? Yeah, you guys did such a fabulous job last time with the Wayland Festival. And if we get, I'm assuming that we'll be involved. And it was fun to do our own show. I was, always an adventurer. I was invited again, since people talked about it and said, what a good time they had at the table. I just wondered. You I looked at the handouts that we have, and they're good this they're very good. And so there's no reason to do a handout. But I wondered for displays. Maybe something added to it or exchange. Just to. and the rest of you did the archeology materials that were out on the table. What else was there? Do you remember? I think it was mainly the box, archeology box. Do we have a plaque or a picture of a plaque or something? There was a picture of a plaque. I feel like that was actually something that people were interested in. So it ties into promoting the 70, getting people the information out there that 75 years. Okay. You've got archeology, Bob. No, we're talking about, remember at the Wayland festival that we did last fall, we had the archeology box and we're talking about doing a table and Kay is suggesting we do something in addition, I guess one thing- In addition or exchange one, if Rick has something different for the railroads, a different sign, because I saw people talking to both topics and animated about it and really interested in it. But so my question is, do we want to do the same thing again, which might not get people back? Or do we want to add something that is interactive that people could try, whether they're digging in the sand for something, or you could talk about, I don't know. Well, one thing that you could think about is, Anne did a great job with the signs and you could actually do a poster of the signs for Dudley Woods and Castle Hill and actually show those. And that might have people get interested enough to go to Dudley Woods or Castle Gate. You have to remember, Anne's not going to be here. No, I know, but I mean, no, she did the signs, but we could make a poster of the signs. Yes, great idea. I like it. We'll see. Also, Tanya, could bring, instead of bringing artifacts, you could bring one of your skeletons. No, I couldn't do that. They might get attention to see a skeleton set up. Yeah. You know, I'm not suggesting anything big or over the top. I'm just saying that something a little bit different than what we did last year, so that we're not- Well, I could even bring a microscope and have, I know one program we did many years ago upstairs in the room in Russell's, I brought a microscope, I think it was up there, and I brought some bones. And the little kids love those. They love to look at them, the bones really interested them. So I could do that, too. We could just get kind of like one of those silver bats, I think we used to have one out, you know, that, I don't, just, an iron, stainless steel tub, and fill it with clay sand and hide candy in there. And the kids could dig around. I was going to bury the bones. Yeah, and just, and then kids can dig around for candy. Dig for the bones. I don't know. Little kids. Well, kids love to look at bones. The thing is, it's not, the sand is too, you'll find a bone too quick. It's not as, I've done a lot of excavations with kids, faux excavations, and sand is, they go through it too fast to make it, their attention span, they're going to go through it, they're going to get the thing. So it's better if it's kind of hard to dig. And that's why those kits that they sell, it's like in sandstone almost, right? You have to kind of chip at it. Because. Yeah. And it's in the archeology lab. We used to have kids come in and we'd have microscopes and they'd be. Well, the microscopes is a good idea. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. With the bones. So that was pretty popular with them. I mean, they didn't always know what they were looking at, but they were interested in it. Yeah. And that's good too, because that captures a different age group. Yeah. It sounds like you have a lot of good ideas. I'm going to leave that up to you. We'll decide when we get close. So. Yeah. What was that in? That was October. Yeah. It was the first weekend in October. Yeah. I think those are all good ideas. Why don't we put it on not necessarily next month, but the month after give it a little more thought and then try to refine it. And. Yeah. I just wanted to bring people's consciousness about it. So it's not a last minute deal. I mean, there was a lot of pressure put on in and you and everybody to come up with something at the last minute. And you all did. So it was great. No, it's great. It's great. The last item is matters not reasonably anticipated by the chair. And actually I got an email this morning. I don't remember the last meeting, the meeting before, but there's the Metro west historical preservation trust. Is setting up a meeting to discuss preservation requirements and regulations. And I, you know, I think it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, there's several, there's several meetings. To discuss preservation requirements and regulations. And I volunteered to participate in that. It looks like they're trying to set it up for sometime in June. Sometime between June 8th and June 29th. So I filled out a calendar indicating my availability. So I suspect it'll be sometime in June. And after it happens, I can, I can report back on that. The only other thing I thought up this, and has done a wonderful job of putting that together with photos and everything doesn't mean anything is that a rule no i don't think they're due in june no september june is the end june is the end of the fiscal year right yeah and so our the regrets went up to july 1st in what we put in it right right not due until september but the report doesn't come out in due i mean i don't know when the due date is but it doesn't i'll have to look back in my records sometime in the fall yeah that would make sense the report would be through the fiscal year but it was it's not submitted until the fall right keep it on our radar so it won't be last minute
yeah last year i uh we produced it in september okay that's uh all i had does anybody else have any other items not reasonably anticipated and well i was going to say this is your second meeting are you going to continue the through the summer uh i'd prefer not to i have another um meeting next or for june um and then july and august i'm going to be a a fair amount so it'd be my preference not to do it for uh july and august i thought we usually took a break during the summer well we found in the past when we take break in august last time we did it in july i believe was that we're so far behind in september when everybody else is already ahead of us and they're planning and everything else and that august was not a good time to take a break but july was a better time i i won't be here for the meetings in july and august so i could maybe do remote well you know yeah depends on whether or not we have a quorum yeah our next meeting is scheduled for june three i'll be here you better start talking to your fellow commissioners to see who you can get to take your place right we need somebody sherry and did it for three months i did it for three months so we'll need uh somebody to step up for three months if we take uh july or august you know obviously even work around it but everybody can think about that but thank you for raising that any other items no it's not the um the minutes where they did you sherry and do you have the minutes there i have my rough copy yes yeah there were a couple of minutes i had a couple of minutes i had a couple of minutes i had a couple of minutes a couple things that you were going to follow up on oh and i don't know if you recall in the minutes that you prepared for the last meeting there were a couple things that k said i volunteered to follow up on which i guess i have not okay i don't know if you recall what those are there's something to do with the cemetery well cemetery i'm definitely following up on okay yeah well one of the things that i've tried to follow oh i'm sorry one of the things that i've tried to follow up on but i haven't been working at it very assiduously because of my leg but now that's better so um i i don't know if you remember a couple of years ago when we had us a graduate student from umass boston come and give a talk about the artifacts from joe gussell's property what is it 16 60 something old sunbury road right next to the cemetery you'd be wrong about and they signed a paper he and his professor that within a year they would give us back the artifacts but they never did he graduated and moved immediately to the west part of the state no forwarding information the professor isn't there and the woman who's in charge of that sort of thing was is decided it wasn't she was seems to be high and i'm not and she hasn't accepted it but she boorarMe too is but and so umass boston has got our collection and i would like to have it back and because they promise they give it back and i've got the paperwork to prove it but i think it's going to take a trip down there and i can probably get tom to and i can probably get tom to take me unless somebody else would like to drive me down there that i'm going to only go to the cemetery so i wanted them to getilench계 but oh well that was not i have any evidence in my it because I don't drive down there anymore, and we could look into it. I've talked to her on the telephone, but I need to get back and maybe try another person in the anthropology department, but it's kind of a tough thing to get. Tanya, was there anything, was this excavated properly, this material? No, it's things that Jo found in her garden as she gardened.
And the kid did a great job with it. He wrote a report. We never got the report. He never sent it to me. I almost think the report is more important than the artifacts. Yes. Well, I want the artifacts back because there are artifacts. I guess, Tanya, what I would suggest is I think just making a trip there is not going to be productive. I think you need to have an individual set up an appointment in advance. Of course. Of course. Right, right, right. Some sort of written indication first. Is there a list of the items that he took? He didn't give us any of that. Did you all make a list before you gave him the items? So what does the actual… How could you make a list? I wouldn't know. I don't know what to call them. Tanya, the thing he signed, this… I have it. I have it. Yeah. There's not any… Description? Yeah. There's nothing. Usually there's lines that say, you know… Where you list the items. Exactly. You list items. No, no, no. We didn't have a list of items. We just gave him the box. And what does the actual document say? I mean, I didn't bring it with me. My other phone. Okay. Okay. Maybe if you could… If you have time, maybe you could do a little more follow-up with the person at UMass Boston. And if necessary, we could even write a letter on our letterhead saying, give it back. I mean, in polite terms. I have the letter already written. Okay. This was before I came. So it was quite a long time ago, Tanya. Yeah. Did you ask Eric about it when he excavated Olsenbury Road? It wasn't excavated. No, Eric. When Eric excavated… When Eric excavated the Dory House, did you ask him about it? About what? This other… The Gossel Garden and the artifacts that came out of it. No, because that was UMass Amherst, and this is UMass Boston. Oh, UMass Boston. Yeah. Okay. And I know another professor down there, and I'm going to try to get in touch with him. I know one, too. I know one. Okay. Okay. Well, yeah, if you could follow up and then report back on it, that would be great. Yeah, because that's a big frustration for me. So, Brad, I wanted to follow up on a couple of things. One, Rick did have his cleanup this past weekend. I happened to see him, and he had maybe two or three people with him. That was Sunday afternoon. I don't know how the rest of the… The weekend went. I don't know if anybody else saw him. He was… Okay. He was west of the depot when I saw him, further down. And then I wanted to mention the Francis Perkins program. We had, what, 58 people there, which was a nice crowd. It wasn't too crowded and everything. She, I thought, did a lovely job. I don't know. Ian, what did you think?
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I thought she was terrific, and I thought the audience really, really enjoyed it. Good questions from the audience. Yeah. We had our donation box out. Yeah. That's great. So, I'm signing a contract with History at Play again to do Rachel Wevere, which is what the Rev 250 has suggested, again at the Vokes Theater on August 30th. So, if you… So, if you can spread the word, tell your friends and everybody else, hopefully we'll do a better job of advertising the second History at Play than the first one, which was sort of short notice. But now we have more notice. We can hopefully do that. And the… I'm still trying to reach out to Vokes for reenactors for the September-slash-October Cemetery Walk. So, that kind of brings you up on what we've been doing for the 50th as far as the commission is concerned. Perhaps the gentleman who lives in the Bent House would be willing. In the what house? Bent? Oh, the Bent House. Yes. Well, perhaps, and I'm happy to have anybody at this point, but I'm waiting for John's response before I reach out to the public, because I was also hoping maybe some of the students at the high school might be interested. Maybe they're interested in doing something that are into theater. We do have a 15-year-old boy on the tour, so maybe they'd be interested. So, anyway, that's where that stands at the moment, just to update you all and to ask for your help on getting people out on August 30th, which is a Sunday afternoon at 2 p.m. And it's the day before school, so hopefully families are back in town. And encourage them to bring their middle school or high school children with them.
Okay. Well, can I have a motion to adjourn? So moved. Second? Second. All in favor? Aye. We are adjourned. Thank you, everybody. Thank you.