October 17, 2025 – Economic Development Committee – Video & Transcript

October 17, 2025 - Economic Development Committee

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So this is calling to order the meeting for October. One may walk or may participate remotely with the meeting that can be found on our agenda. Pursuant to chapter two of the acts of 2025, this meeting will be conducted in person and via remote means in accordance with applicable law. This meeting will be recorded and made available to the public on WACAM as soon after the meeting as is practicable. So with that, it's calling to order is 8.34 a.m. And we are hybrid meeting. So we have three people in person, Karen, Katie, and Becky, and then David is remote. And we should have Jeff joining us shortly, but he's not quite here yet. So with that, we have Tom Faye also joining us. I know, Tom, you have some limited time beforehand. So the question of on Monday, you guys, the select board is interviewing a potential member for EDC. So David had mentioned that he knew her. So we'll try to connect with her before Monday's meeting, maybe over the weekend, if we're able to sort of squeeze that in. But sounds like she's a long time Wayland resident and would be a potentially a good addition. So we'll try to make that connection. So you guys have some good feedback as of your Monday meeting. You can prepare, you can prepare her, David, for our top question. I'll let her know. Yeah, she'll be ready for the quiz.
So, Tom, since you have limited time, one of the items on the agenda is a joint meeting with the select board. Is there any more insight as to when that might be? Is that going to be November? Were you able to reach out to Carol Martin, the chair, to confirm what her thinking was. But my bad memory was it was definitely going to be in November or earlier than December of this year. Okay. All right. So I would say if we can meet in November, if we have a new member, there's some question that Val is saying going, you know, sort of as we settle it out and we can, you know, we can talk about the goals, but let's just have it next time. So if we could do it after our November 12th meeting. So kind of second half. And if you have one that's kind of squeezed in there before that and Thanksgiving, that'd be perfect. Or we can kind of do beginning December. Yeah. I recommend you just send an email to Tom Martin and tell her what date, what period of preference, and then she'll
Perfect. Okay. I will do that. Anything else in particular, Tom, you wanted to chime in on? One point of interest I would ask is I think that you have been talking tentatively and I don't know if it's open knowledge who the buyer of town center is, but you've been meeting with them. Any insights as to... It's not public yet. It's what? It's not public. Right. So, but the question is, do we know any, anything about when the closing may happen? Or otherwise? I defer to Robert Hummel on that video. 30 to 60 days. This is still 30 to 60 days, potentially. From today or from when you were talking to them last? It was like two, a few weeks ago, three weeks ago, we talked, we discussed with them, so. Okay. All right. They're moving along. They're going to buy it. They just, they just got to do it. The legal paperwork signed up today. Yeah. It's a typical time frame. I mean, we were thinking it would probably be like the end of October-ish, so. So they're, they're, they're waiting to get this, get started and get their fee rolling, so. Good. Um, Tom, anything that you wanted to add on any of the topics as we, if you have limited time, anything that the select board, um, is focusing on that we might want to be paying attention to or otherwise? Hey, Jeff. Jeff has joined us at. I'm, I'm somewhat encouraged by the ownership, the potential ownership group of the new town center. I think at least one of them is a local person. And I think that's huge in developing a vision for, for the town center that will make it even more successful and more productive. I did stop by and introduce myself to the new owner of the falling ball company. That's the company that replaced the BSC space. And, um, lovely, uh, lovely person. And they seem quite busy over there already. That would be a nice, uh, nice-ass town center. And it's all about footpath, right? That type of space and so on. I think that, I think that is financing. And frankly, my hope is that in a year's time, the entire space will be pretty, pretty, pretty forward. Maybe even with some local businesses, which I think the provision of these new owners, that would be, uh, they'll be wrong. Other than that, not too much to explore, um, economic, economic development. Nice to see some progress, of course, and construction situate businesses. Hopefully it'll be done sooner than later. Father probably has a better handle on the time. Okay. And as it relates, kind of related topic is the sort of playground slash, um, splash pad and, uh, you know, amphitheater type of thing that you guys met. I was on vacation. I did not watch it, but anything that you wanted to relay. I think the question is, what are next steps? Um, you may be coordinating with David and Katie. I'm not sure, but from the select board's point of view, is what are next steps in your mind, just making sure we're on the same page. Well, I won't stick with the board, but we can certainly discuss it when the two boards meet in the upcoming weeks. But, great to have David and Sarah came with us to talk about the ideas. So, uh, I guess, uh, uh, our private collaboration, uh, uh, the big business plan that we're not interested. So, uh, uh, uh, uh, the second level, uh, the critical network, uh, questions, So Katie you were at the meeting David did we have anything that we needed to check in with Tom about as far as like next steps I kind of feel like the ball was perhaps with the select board um so David I don't know if you want to follow up with Tom or yeah I think yeah I think I think we um how I understand we landed and Tom feel free to correct me but we want to follow up and basically have a sit down at least as a group especially with the health department included or town manager and really address that item number one which is any potential concerns there and how to proceed with within the restrictions that might be present on the Raytheon side. And then number two was really trying to find through the planning board and you know the town manager's office the right um way to sit down potentially with the new owners of the plaza and have that discussion. So Tom that's how I understand it and I think you know EDC will do you know exactly or anything that the select board you know would like us to proceed and move forward with um we're we're just trying to help in any way and uh you know we'll take the guidance you got. So um all right so um all right so I'll reach out to the two of you um over the next day or two I'll also connect with the select board chair and town manager um to continue the discussions may be prudent even though he doesn't complete new town center home they may be interested in still sitting down on some of these ideas so let me look into that and and let's connect to the next two or three days. Okay I I am just FYI out of office um or out of country next week so I think Katie would um maybe you'd be able to take the lead on on that side and just keep it moving. Yep sure thank you and I guess um Tom just to follow up on like one more point um any insight or um any way to kind of move the needle on if this would need like a town vote um at town meeting? I think it depends for example it really depends on the vision of the new town center home if there's a need or desire to have a land swap the answer is yes. But if you know you tell central owners want to do things on their land not in town then unlikely that a town meeting would be needed there's certainly an expenditure of money needed for projects on town and that would likely need a town. It kind of depends on on the aspects we think you're thinking about. Okay. You would need to go back to the planning board to amend this the master special program. Same plan for the town center problem. So isn't it recreation that's in the town green? Why would recreation? Because it's part of the whole master special program concept. The decision the big settings on page decision. You have to go back to amend that. You have to go back to plan board to that. Or anything on town green? I mean if you can change it at all. Remember the sea away we had to go back to sea away and amend that decision for that too. Right. But that was a built structure and it's it's a building that needs building. It needs to change the contract to the decision so. Okay. Yeah, I think, Robert, I mean, we'd heard a net mention, you know, some aspects around that with like a two acre rule and a prior, you know, bylaw that had been issued to that extent. So I think, you know, much of what we want to do on the EDC side is just try to understand what those barriers and roadblocks might be to execute something like this. So, you know, if you could maybe send a note out to us as, you know, if I could request that and, and, you know, share what you feel are, you know, the current bylaws in place. I think that would just help us understand what we're working with here. Also, the, there might be some. togetherness because I know the, the, the town center or potentially want to do. We would like to also see a play, potentially a playground on that green. So there is like, I feel like. You might have to wait a little, just a teeny bit longer until they get out of place. Because I feel like they have a vision and you have a vision. It's like, but we need to together. Made to like one vision that we cannot work together and not highlight court. I'd have the, the, the town staff and the town or on this path. It's like we could work together. We could work together. So once, once everything kind of slows down and they sign a contract, let's pretend to like bring you guys in and have a meeting. Yeah. Potentially. Well, one of the key things is the environmental, which regardless, we need to know that. And we should know that by the time we sit down with them. So I would say that's one thing that absolutely should. I mean, David, you've always been saying that's, that's a go or no go. Right. Can't do it. We can't do it. So that's on us to figure that out. So we absolutely should do that. And then we'll be ready to have that meeting. Like whoever actually actually controls the playground was the property that that sends you to figure out a little later. Is there any part of this proposed on the private land? This is all on the town green, right? Uh, correct. That's what we've looked at. Yes. Right now. But it might be. Right. And they have, they have some ideas on their own land potentially too. So. Yeah. It makes perfect sense. It's, it feels like to, to have this deal go through and then connect with them. It sounds like they have energy for this, but number like the Raytheon, uh, we need to get our arms around that. Yep. What would be the, what would be the steps to do that, Becky? Well, so Tom, it sounds like you'll meet with David and Katie and then, you know, sit down, maybe it's like McCall or whatever, just to really sleuth out that issue. And we have a good understanding of that. It's like, we're not going to talk to Raytheon yet, but it's just understanding, you know, maybe a quick conversation with Ben Gould or digging up your paperwork, et cetera. But just so we understand that, you know, we know, and if there is an environmental concern, maybe we do encourage them to put it on the private land. You know, there's, that is really one of the key drivers here. So if we could resolve that in the next month, that would be, that would be ideal. Are they allowed to do it on private lands? If there's an environmental restriction? No, Raytheon restrictions would, would be in place regardless of private or public, um, you know, owners. It's, it's purely just, they have their own restrictions. They have to cover liability. They know what the site past history was. They, they own that going forward in terms of any potential issues with it. Can we just get another site plan? I know it's been somewhere out there in the past, but showing the private versus the public. In town, in town center. Yeah. Yeah. I can send you the document just so you see it. Yeah. I'll start that around. So it'll be a good reminder. It's a good idea. Yeah. Okay. It's Becky. It's also available from the GIST database. Is that right? Like you'd be able to see ownership levels on those parcels. Yeah. Yeah. It feels definitely show that you can see it online. If you just want to map map. Uh, but then there's also like almost like a really condominium document of who is on. Yeah. It's like a site plan. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a site plan. Yeah. It's like a site plan. It's like a site plan. Yeah. And it's like, we're going to have to remember. And I think there's obligation for the owner to be taking care of the green. Hmm. Even when it reverts. So that'd be good to kind of check out that one as well. So. Just so we all have it. It's just good to have in here. I think the last thing to add, and I'm not sure if this was said already, but you know, as it pertains to all the other potential avenues, Robert, like you were talking about for, you know, the site and if it's town overlap or, you know, independent ownership of the Plaza. Um, you know, there's other groups that are interested in that area, like the dog park group. Yeah. And I, you know, it's worth just if the planning board can help facilitate and select board can help facilitate bringing all these parties and discussions together and really finding the right fit for everyone. Um, you know, I think when it comes to the ideas of, of a land swap, there may be some pros and cons to consider. Perhaps if we did a land swap, does that limit the town usage of a pavilion and amphitheater for concerts and other events? Um, and how we would manage that. So I think it's just, it would be worth the discussion at a high level. Um, before, you know, we get too far in any of those other, um, plans. So, thank you. So it sounds like we, oh, sorry. Can I just, yeah. Don't want to belabor this. I know we've been talking about it for a while, but one quick thing to mention, um, is the splash pad is something in terms of environmental funding, maintenance, all that sort of stuff is maybe on the back burner TBD down the line. But I just think when we talk about this project, we should probably not call it a splash pad. You just need to name it something that's maybe, um, like called recreation area, something like that. That's a little bit more all encompassing of, um, the stage, the, um, amphitheater. So Tom, just as we're talking about that, something to note, um, you know, maybe a more wholesome term that kind of incorporates all these different things. Um, it's a great point, Katie. We'll work on the brand. Yeah. Yeah. We'll, we'll come up with a good, because I think a splash pad definitely puts an image in people's minds. And for a year, I was thinking, oh, don't we just go down and touch a fire engine, but it's really. Yeah. Festival. Right. Well, it used to be just touching a truck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. So next step is. So maybe call it like recreation area or something. I don't know. Yeah. We'll figure out, figure out a rebrand. So Tom, you're going to reach out to Katie and David. Katie will pick up the reins while David's out. Um, I'll circulate around the documents. I'll copy Robert. Robert, if you can tag on. If something happens on that town green, something will happen on that town green. What would it mean in terms of approvals needed from the planning board? Yep. Yeah. Awesome. The only thing I'll say, Becky, is. Yep. Um, it sounds like the vision of your committee is to make town green more active. Yes. Or have activities that would draw more. Yes. So if you have examples of studies that have been done from other communities, the state of the parts of the country. Yes. That might be helpful. Because it would. Provide. In addition with the will. Your argument. That. It looks nice. Now, but it could be more productive with. With. Yeah. Go ahead, David. Yeah. Go ahead. I think we, we tried to, I know the memo was quite lengthy that we, we did send out. Um, back in September 4th. And we included use cases there that did more or less, I think, uh, show, uh, the variability of success and using these different elements. So, you know, some of those being like the rent them outlets where they put a playground really in the middle of the outlets actually, and it was plaza owned and they saw a significant pop in activity. And that was a directly a quote from common, the playground vendor who, who did the project. Um, we've also looked at other plazas or other areas like the Acton site and then down on Trapelo road. So I think we tried to highlight those in the memo. If you have any questions on those, um, you know, please feel free to just give us a buzz. And then our, as far as the other use case justification, uh, what we provided last Monday, I believe it, you know, two Mondays ago, when we did the fast tax map, we were working off of national parks association and other websites that were showing, you know, the percentage increase that you would see in, in property valuation, uh, due to that foot traffic, uh, holds. So eight to 20% generally would be the commercial landmark appraisal value change. But we went on the, on the very, very low end of that at 3%. And then on the residential appraisal within a certain distance, it was, um, uh, two to 5%. And we went even lower and just said, let's call it 1%. So I think we've got good basis, good justification. And, and we can try to consolidate that. If that's the request and make it easier. Um, I'll, I'll look at that again. And what I might suggest is maybe even expanding it further, but, but let me look, look at it. And I'll, I'll be in touch. Uh, we can. Yeah. Sounds great. Thank you. Okay. Tom, anything else from your perspective before we. No, I'm, I'm good. Appreciate all your work. Hope you all have a great weekend. Perfect. Thanks. All right. So jumping back in our agenda. So public comment. Can we. See.
Nope. Perfect. Okay. So having no one here, no public comments, um, meeting minutes. I've circulated just, we had our interim meeting, which was August 28th. So it was pretty just brief discussion about this whole memo. So any comments to those meeting minutes or otherwise? Motion to approve. Oh, see. Okay. A year and a half. Karen motion. Do I hear a second? Second. Second. All in favor, David. Yep. Sorry. I'm on mute. There we go. All right. Uh, so David. I. I. Perfect. All right. We are approved five. Oh. All right. So we added a new item on our agenda and Robert, we put it on last time and then you were out, but we wanted to kind of sorry. It was on vacation. That's all right. So we just wanted to. Not a password. So we just wanted to have kind of a standing, you know, just quick couple of minute update of anything new. That's coming. We had it. We touching. We had a good. We've been trying for a volleyball club. Live tech was pretty popular too. There's a lot of people. We caught the people who were walking by like, Oh, do a river cutting. Let's, let's watch. I mean, they had a whole little, after that, they had a whole little like lunch prepared for the whole staff. All the staff was there for live tech. So they're super pumped and really excited. And so. We have another one coming in for moon nails on Monday, which is, we'll be there, but it wasn't scheduled by us. They scheduled it. They had one last night, which was also they scheduled their own. They were kind. So. Um, I mean, you guys turn out to rain is closed. Finally. Why? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can look at the information, uh, the architect has already come in. Um, um, and he's ready to come in and discuss the first, the first piece of property on the, on the front. Mm-hm. And again, the attorney for instance, as soon as possible, getting that started. And then, and then they will, they've also applied for science with ZBA for all the science they need for, uh, final flaws. So that ZBA application next meeting. Next meeting, I think. What's the actual address on that? I'll not, on that. 297. 311 possible. I think. So. Are you still working with Jennifer or do you have somebody else? I have not been contacted with them. We've been mostly with Josh Fox. Got it. Okay. Cause Josh Fox represents the, uh. The property. No, locally. Terrain. Terrain. Okay. They have their own lawyer from corporate for better pieces, but he's the one that's dealing with the ZBA and stuff. And so he's still the one that the main contact. If you want any information. Should we contact him? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Do you want me to send him an email? Uh, yeah. Okay. That's if you ask for like, oh, right. What's going on? It's, it's moving along. They're the first. I think they even submitted it. We'll submit it. And then it'd do the artist point in the back. So. It looks nice. It's gonna look really nice in that property. Okay. Um, to Kara. What's have they? I am not saying anything. Really? It's been like on a phone call. I'm not saying anything. I'm not. Okay. Um, can I ask a question? Sure. Do you have any statistics on Wayland Fest? How many people came or how many? I have no clue. But I was there. It was packed. It was packed. I'm just kidding. I have no clue. The police chief has stats. Yeah. The rep department, they also have stats. It was really crowded. It was nice. The police chief said, I heard anything from 3,000 to 6,000. Like that. I don't know about 6,000. Yeah. Yeah. Reach out to Katherine. Cause she had a ton of stats from last year. How'd they gather the information? Cell phones. Oh. Yeah. In cell towers. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Cause some people don't have cell phones. If they have the number. I mean. Yeah. That's like 1%. So add 10%. I thought I would do that too. But yeah, it was, it was pretty, it was pretty successful. I wish we could do more at once a year. Cause that was pretty popular. Was that a heavy lift on your part? I'm just curious. I didn't. I just, I just went to the river cutting. I came in the beginning, walked around. My daughter let her plan the moon balance and then, and then went to the river cutting and then left. So it was just a really different river cutting, but I wanted to just let her play around a little bit. So she had a ball go up and down the, the, the moon balance. So she didn't like it off that. Yeah. All right. And then what's going on with planning board these days? Is anything happening with. Um, Route 20 or anything? Uh, when I was a little busy with, uh, the Copic church and the Carol school. So there was a big meeting the other night. Uh, yeah. We had 105 people. Yeah. So we're popular with that right now. Um, no, it's the Route 20 thing is still going on. It just, we have a big projects to like require an attendant. And so. And the, the Carol school. So that's not the one that's on one 26. That's the road. It's different. They're, they're expanding. People aren't happy on that. Uh, it's different. The two projects are completely different. One's about like, oh, traffic and height. And then one's like traffic from Lincoln. We were mad about traffic from Lincoln. So it's mostly open. We're going to get a little. Want to see some like something done. Which can be done. We just have to be able to kind of just flush it out. And figure out what makes sense for me. If there's mitigation or whatever that is. So I know they want all the mitigation done. And like wants to know. They call me like, what, what, what, what mitigation plan. We're going to have, like, given the public here. I can't speak for the plan. We haven't had the public here. Has any other good open yet. And then no discussion. So. So there's multiple. So. How does the Carol school go in terms of like the town? Yeah. Yeah.
Revenue. Do we get much from. Nothing. Because it's a five, one, two, three. Yeah. So this, this, this discussions offline. Or the, the time managers preparing the discussions offline. To, to reach out to both of those organizations. For our pilots. So the payment is in lieu of taxes. So you can, you can negotiate payment for. And mostly about like fire safety and, and police. And like. Off-site and those costs that we, they would have to use anyways. And then what else? So it's kind of like a, it's similar to a TIFF. Like it will, sometimes you'll, you'll pay like very slowly. I'll go up a little bit. Like you'll start, maybe you'll slow. You'll start paying a small amount on the game. And then it'll start moving up all of it. So it's, it's some very kind of similar to a TIFF where it doesn't like. A TIFF, you, you, same thing with TIFF. You kind of like slowly crank up the. The amount of money that you get from the. From the. It's optional at the end of the day, right? You can't. It is. It is. But it, but it, it's pretty good faith to at least offset the payment for. Yeah. Like that's pretty reasonable. Hmm. But yeah. We're not, we're not cutting any taxes from both of them. Which. One, I think the copy charges, you know, the variance in the sky rock. If they actually know what they have. So. Okay. Anything else? Nothing else new? No, we're moving along. We're still waiting. We're still waiting for 114, 120 to be fully built on that. It would be nice. In the, in the constituent village. The one I have burned down. I was just gonna say Dino's. Yeah. It's like, it's going up. It's down. It's getting there. It's slowly, but it's, it's going. Yeah. We might, we might want to check with the building inspector. Cause last time they hadn't gotten permits for the build outs yet. So I don't know. It's interesting to know what the timelines are for Liberty Pizza and a dry cleaner and others to get back in. I want a dry cleaner and a little pizza to come back. And then I don't know what else. I'm not sure what else after that. And maybe, and maybe the community is so potentially, but I think there's like one or two, one or 10 spots. Um, and then I don't think the town bought the, the office building. I mean, it's a call. Yeah. Actually we should have asked Tom, but anyway. I don't think the town, the town are not buying that. So I think there's someone who is looking around for those two properties on the gas issue. There's someone who is considered to try to buy it. Potentially. Yeah. So I don't know if I know the group as well. So hopefully something. Yeah. I'll reach out to depend. No, this group would be just the, just the building itself. Yeah. But as long as you get some kind of next door again, it's like, you're going to have to share in some way for that corner site for it to happen. So. I don't think there's anything else. I don't know. You've talked with them, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll copy you on it. Okay. And the townhouse cafe Vista, I think they went to ZBA last week and they had continued I think mostly because they didn't have the numbers to vote. They didn't have the quorum. They didn't have the quorum. No, they didn't have the quorum. They didn't have the quorum. They didn't have the quorum. They didn't send the vote, the four or five. They didn't have the votes to vote for us. Right. They're doing, aren't they do, don't they have another vote next week? It was just last. It was Tuesday. It wasn't. It was on Tuesday. It was on Tuesday. It was on Tuesday. Yeah. They discontinued it. Yeah. But they were, it just means that they didn't have the quorum to vote it through. However, they did get indication as far as I know, maybe even stating, but that from town council, they could approve it without parking. That was, that was the key issue. Yeah. You can, you can, you can, you can not parking, but you have to, it's a balancing. Yeah. Like. Yeah. You absolutely can do it out. Do zero parking, but like that's, they, they just are discussing the way they are. So like, what makes no sense. So when would they decide that at their next meeting vote again? Uh, November. Yeah. They only, they only meet like once a month. Let's say. Okay. Yeah. And then they can make a note. Okay. So they should be in good shape, but it just means another, another 30 days. That's fine for a business owner. I know that's the thing. I'm like, that's going to push her whole timeline, but you, I think you've got to kind of expect this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard because ZBA only meets once a month. So it's like, unless they call it on me, which, unless they have to busy call me. There's more to figure out parking. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Okay. I think that's pretty much it. I mean. Okay. Yeah. All right. So Robert, that's helpful. Yes. Thank you, Robert. Yeah. All right. So EDC goals. So I had input yours. Uh, that's right. You get it to me before I went on vacation, but let's give it. So now everybody has a month. So everybody's in both valves is not on here. He hasn't given it to me, but he may not be continuing on. Um, but if needy is joining, then, you know, it'd be really good to get her input too. And she can kind of look at the whole, so we can plan on talking next time, but really focus on. This is literally your raw data of what you're interested in spearheading and what you're interested in working on, what people feel are important. So you can really, this is sort of a full data set at this point. Sure. Digest. How many spots do you open? How many spots are in the charter in the EDC? You have six right now? We have six right now. So one opening was their hearing on Monday. Um, but if Val needs to step down, like work is just too crazy for him. So he's evaluating. And so Val's evaluating. Uh, so he'll let us know. Right. So, but in the meantime, so we can kind of wrestle this to the next time. Having a joint meeting with the select board. One of the questions is, do we bring our slate of issues and say, this is what we're going to be working on. And again, that sort of blanket blessing. If there is some kind of recognition of that, did that get approved? It's been revised, but the packet hasn't come out. So I have not seen, not seen it yet. So keep an eye out for that packet. Okay. Um, okay. So the pending joint finance committee. So I finally did hear back Bill Giudici. So they, um, had actually had a meeting. I was speaking with Kathy Steinberg and there had been a working group had working on it before Bill Steinberg passed away. Um, kind of internally with the budget director, et cetera. And they met with the FinCom. Um, apparently the call had gone out to the land use boards, which presumably was planning warden's EVA. But they said nobody had showed, uh, in that regard. Did that ring any bells? Like a FinCom invitation? Nope. All right. Um, so anyway, so he is just looking at that. So at this point it will probably be November ish. So it sounds like they have a ton on their plate right now. So we'll keep moving that along, but I did send him sort of the draft info because he was asking for that to kind of formulate how we have that joint meeting. So he's got the information. We can kind of just, we'll keep that moving. Oh, something else I should add to is that there's this potential discussion on a piece of property within the MBTA, uh, overlay, uh, the office building by, uh, Dave Watkins. Um, and there's a, right now potentially with a sewer line to that property. And that can help develop that property for Dave, but then also Dave would get that pay that money to help me hopefully. Forget it out. And then he can also build what he wants to build. So he's not to build a septic. So, so this to end, I'm curious. Uh, yeah. Yeah. It's ends at the bottom of the hill. So to get it up and over the hill. Yeah. That's a big project. That's a lot of money. But the other thing, does it suck up some of our sewer capacity for route 20? Maybe. Yeah. But it's also true. It could be, I don't know, the driveway as you guys call it. The housing, the MBTA overlay. Could it, is there been, I'm sure there's been work in seeing about connecting on the Sudbury side. He looks at that for all to Oxbow a long time ago. Yeah. They're hesitant to, but they have, they literally have a full sewer system, but it's tail end. They couldn't get that up and over the hill, nor did they want to give us sewer capacity for our property. So for Dave's building. Could that one straddle Sudbury and Wayland. So it's in both their interests. So that one might be better suited. I'm sorry. So, you know, the road you turn into Longfellow, that office building on the right. Yeah. So that was part of the MBTA communities district. Right. So he can put residential there as of right. Mm-hmm. The question is sewer. So right now it has sewer for an office building, but. Is somebody looking into that? He is. He owned the property. Yeah. That kind of means that, please. I don't know why he doesn't want that. Excuse me. No, I don't want him on his face. Because he hasn't talking to him. Yeah. I mean, this has been his whole plan. It's trying to get building on the MBTA. He pretty much sat at me and said, please, please own my property. Like, fine. Fine. We'll clue you. Yeah. He sort of said that. But the problem is his property is kind of relatively small. So it'd be maybe 60 units. It's going to be hard. It's sort of that too big for a small and too small place. So that's what I was saying to him. He should coordinate with the office building. I mean, the food pantry took the front site, but that building back is still empty. Right. Yeah. Chambers, car solar cars. Della. Yeah. It's still on the other side of the street. It's on the other side of the street, but if you could get, I mean, you know, often have multi-family and multi-buildings, but it's right there. Yeah. Right. You could probably get to that 150 magic number, but, but sewer is definitely an issue. But with that one, particularly with Dave's site, I think that you do talk with Sudbury before it was really the question. I mean, getting up and over the hill. Yeah. It's tough. Right. And so Sudbury is like, ah, don't talk to me. Right. And it made sense. Yeah. But in this, they have it to that location. Yeah. I do have a meeting with the chamber of commerce from Sudbury next Monday. So I'm going to discuss a lot. I'm not sure what they want to discuss, but they had some ideas they want to discuss. So it won't, it won't buy the, the septic that he's going to have to get. Sore. Are you just going to have to have, I don't know if you can have a package system. You could, I mean, all the time. So it's going to choose up a lot of the land. That's why. It's changing now. He doesn't have to go over the hill. You're saying you can connect. Sudbury septic does come almost to, you know, basically that cool zone. Cause that's literally the town line. Yeah. But for their commercial, all that it's all in sewer. Yeah. So I don't know with long fellow, his is the only property that straddles because it kind of does the landfill and then it's Whalen again, and then it's Sudbury again. So they extended Sudbury. Is that what happened? Cause no, no, it's just always been there. So I'm not going to have to go over the hill now. Prevents who from going over the hill? I thought you said originally they had to go up and over the hill. For when we were asking for all to Oxford. Oh, because you're further back. Sudbury didn't want to come up and over the hill. So that building's already over the hill. No, it's on Sudbury's side of the hill. So if it's coming from Route 20 from the west, right. It's stopping at long fellow, basically. So they didn't want to come up and over the hill to Alta. Right now, our sewer is at Alta. We're not going to want, it's going to be expensive to get up and over the hill. To get to Dave's, but Dave should naturally tie into Sudbury side. But I know there's a capacity question. I think the pipe is not. Are you allowed to tie into other towns? Well, again, Dave's property is jointly in both towns. Oh, I think, I think it could be an arrangement. I think you absolutely could. Yeah. Just like in, just like West South Wayland. You could technically, if you had agreements, you could technically tie it in. It just, it's all. The water authority just has footprint. Right. So for them, it's revenue and capacity and how old are their pipes? And, you know, if they need to get that stretch redone, getting a tie MP is going to help them do that. So, you know, if they ever want to do anything with Clapper and Richie, that's another site. That's half Wayland, half Sudbury. Right. So that's another one. It would make sense for that sewer. That really, but for us, you know, that kind of density on that side, we wouldn't want to take off. That would suck up our return capacity. So. Oh, well, but also look at it. But I'm going to be able to expand. We can also expand. Hey, help pay for the treatment plan. Expand that. It's up on numbers of how this works out. But it's, it's the discharge though. It's not even money. It's the discharge. Expense to go up over the hill. Like up over the hill, probably like a million and a half. Oh. But by that time, you'd almost do your own package system on your own property. So I don't know. I don't know where it's at. We've been discussing it for like the last year. And he's just like recently is calling and he hasn't called me back. So just want to see what status is. But I know there's been a pipeline that he's been trying to do something, but just trying to figure out how to financially make it work. Yeah. They may be looking for Flavor and Richard. So I can wonder. Interesting. Hmm. Okay. Um, so with that, how did we get on that topic? All right. What do you want? Finance and all that stuff. Oh, that's. Oh, Fincom. Yeah. All right. Um, so the playground, not splash that anymore. We'll cross that out. We'll come up with the, that's your branding exercise. Okay. So we kind of covered most anything, anything else to add? No. All right. I don't know if David's there, if he wants to add anything. Yeah. He might be on mute, but ultimately, I think we kind of have our game plan of what we need to do for next steps. Got us in the cell of town center. So again, so that sounds like it's going to be, you know, next 30, 60 days, October, November timeframe, which is great. I mean, they'd be happy to sit down. They're just so, they seem so excited and seem very energetic. They do something. Yeah. It's just like, it's a matter of time. Just like, you know, let the process work out and just have to wait until they, they buy it and then put their name. And then they're named and then, but, but they seem exciting. It's not a, it's not a, it's not like a, a RK. What do you call this? What's the RK group? They have like the by the closet. It's not that kind of like giant corporation. It's someone, it's a different kind of set up. So that it's a little more, I would call it more flexible and more personal. Then like a, you buy RFK buys it, whatever the name, the name of it's called. Okay. Okay. Center. And then, you know, I represent it. It's me more personal. I feel more personal than, than deserve was. Is there ever going to feel it felt more cold in New York City. It was corporate. It was not, it was not the institution. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard. It wasn't, it wasn't great for leadership. So I should have actually asked Tom, we need to check in. I mean, I think our shared streets money is still sitting there, but. Oh, they, they know about it and they're excited about it. Oh. That's amazing. Not out for how many years. They know about it. They're very, they're very excited about it. They need on us. Just the decades, but like, yes. I know. 48. Please let us. For more 2020. Please, please take this. Yeah, they're, they're, they're very excited. They want to use that for the, for the playground. No, no, no. I have to go and Alyssa Avenue was approved for that, but there's. Within that there's flexibility, but that's the location where it's. Where it's. So they want to use that. Cause they want, they want, they want a lot of that. They think they want to line it up. And then they do something on the other side. So. And get to the bike pad and like, oh my. What a difference. Okay. Oh, like the clouds are party. It's amazing. Okay. I mean, at some point, I think Zora knew they're going to sell it. And they didn't want to like, just like you, when you're buying a team, you don't want to put too much, you're putting paint lunch on the payroll. Cause your next owner is not going to want that. They didn't want the library and having that, that grant on there. They just want to like sell it as clean as possible. So that's why why Zora, but at the end, and then it was like, we're not interested because they just knew what they're selling their properties out. Yeah. Let's just, let's keep it off. Yeah. Which is a shame. That's why I was surprised to see the R twin deal. I figured they would just. Maybe they just did it for vacancy numbers. Well, it's, you can, you can terminate at 30. Yeah. You can terminate in 30 days notice. So it's. Yeah. It's grinding on the. Got it. All right. So pre-order, pick up overlay districts. So our outreach, there's some conversation. We just need to get either an infographic. Do you guys talk about that at all? Or what is the information? If it's going to the end user, which that sort of. I know you guys want some comments just to kind of, you still looking for some deciphering on the, uh, okay. I'm going to, I'm going to pull it up right now. I opened that up and I was like, just four or five stats, you know, like the stuff that you mentioned that they would care about and just, just those bullet points. Those tenants. Yeah. They could get the information from their broker. We know that right now. When I get Starbucks, let's go that way. Starbucks is not. It's declining all the numbers. Yeah. Yeah. So don't. So some of them are not. Interested in Starbucks. Yeah. There's no, no, no closing. Like, oh God. But the one in Marlboro has been open for two years. They closed it. They just closed three all at once in Boston. Yeah. Right. One in Coolidge Corner and one in Kenmore Square. All like, boom. Same day. The government center. Yeah. Yeah. That's like iconic. I don't get it. But the one in they opened one in Marlboro like, oh, there you go. And they closed it already. I'm like doing the drive. They have a sit. There's drive. It's just ridiculous. It was ridiculous. It was ridiculous. Yeah. But anyway, so the goal of this is to get sort of that one pager, almost like an infographic, right? You want it digestible for the non broker types, but we want to be able to get it in the broker's hands so they can disseminate, but also we can shoot out. So if we can aim to do that by next time that we, Katie sent out, did it come from you the last version? Okay. The last email. Okay. Yes. And then I think you had sent her something, but then when she added me to the CC, it dropped the attachment. So I never saw what you initially sent to her. Um, that felt, yeah. Yeah. And I think it's just, as far as we're not in Israel. Yeah. Yeah. That's the, that one is no, that's our like regular art infographic for the town. Yeah. Not that. Not that. It's search your inbox for me. Um, yeah. It didn't come. The attacks didn't come through. Yeah. Okay. So you guys just want to research and. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not our attachment hit. You're talking about two different things. Okay. My attachment. Yeah. The attachment you had sent to Katie that she opened and couldn't understand. Okay. 10 pages of data. Yes. Yeah. I don't know. I hadn't seen it, but did you guys put together a version and send it back? No, I did not. I wrote you an email and said, okay, let's just give us four or five bullets. Sure. Extracting the data. And then we will put it into the infographic. And then this second email, which also has to do with the infographic has to do with town center, which we can discuss. Which is for. But that's it. Yes. Okay. All right. So next step, Jeff, it is to digest a little bit and then we can kind of pull together that just so we can get that out the door. Um, existing corridor conditions, cleanup. So I realized I came back and on my, my scanner. I remember we met with the landscape company and I marked up a plan and I went to them. So now that I'm back, um, I'll kind of do that loop. So we, for example, with maple tree. Um, and so as Katie and I walked around, you see a lot of the properties, especially the smaller ones and their landscaping. It's horrible. It's overgrown. There's trash, all this kind of stuff, but they just can't afford to have a landscaper come in and expensive for a company to come in for that one property. So talking with maple tree, what if you had eight or 10 properties, you use one crew and they go through and they do all of it. What can you have as a reduced price? So we owed him a map saying that. And I think at the same time that we offer it to Lynch or others, because I know that Lynch maintained some of those, like the local Wayland groups, like let's encourage the Wayland businesses and figure out, okay, can we incent some of these people if it's much less expensive than a one-off landscaping gig? And we all, they did everybody down there, just everybody. Well, that's, that's the question, you know, ultimately it would benefit, you know, even like Santander or, you know, people who already are maintaining their properties. If they could, we could reduce their costs, that may be a good thing. So, so we'll, we talked with him. He was all excited, of course. And so, you know, we'll, we'll get him that map with people who we think are likely candidates. And then it's almost like, you know, what if you had the whole corridor? Yeah. Yeah. A lot of communities, um, it's incumbent upon the property owner to maintain certain grass site. You know, I know that it's not a regulation, but it should be, uh, like an adoptive site or no, no. I mean, it's just their own property. Yeah. Yeah. The issue is not so much. A lot of these properties don't have grass. It's just, um, it's really small areas in front of their stoop that has like weeds and shrubs and stuff like that. So I mean, with the bank of America's side, I mean, what if that grass is like up to your neck. Like, uh, they did finally cut it. A harvest. Yeah. Yeah. Well, as funny as when they were trying to rent the building, they had it perfectly maintained. And then the second they decided to put in there. let it all go uh any do robert do you have any info on that not really do we have any requirement i don't think on the voa no just anywhere in zoning code just continue oh well there's nothing in zona that says you have to maintain your properties this should be aggressive yes like yeah you've seen it in other communities gotten fined for it yeah really hmm not in florida it's very common is it zoning is it like a town city ordinance city ordinance yeah yeah so you can get fined by the um do you even have city town ordinances on those issues well you know it could go to the house like who's gonna who's gonna do who's gonna go out and do that so you just say you pass it you pass it i'll do it i'll do it drop it down write it up i mean there's a tree warning i will i had a friend who was the tree ward sure that they're you know i mean i i barely it's not that hard to write a ticket for something no yeah and you normally wouldn't but with bank of america yeah like that guy if you're not going to mow this you're going to get fined yeah that's what you don't know and then you get fined down a certain time no i don't think we have any of that i mean we we feel like sometimes they'll drive down the road i'm like huh that's not as new that's not as new and so i'll bring the attention of the zoning foreign officer but it's up to him to decide if he wants to take any action it is he'll put up legal signs all this zoning what enforcement officer we have one he just walked by the bank commissioner oh that's me yeah nate's the zoning is his only point oh okay it's probably up to him he if he has time to do it he has all the time to go after you just need a back channel to nate well you just let it out yeah i just let him know he this this is not illegal you need to take care of that one and yeah but sometimes i'm spanked it's worth my time to to go back and forth and i'm in with like a whole new revenue stream for whales i don't know if we circulated it to the group we probably should did we um or what i forgot so so when katie and i walked through and we took photos of everything and we basically did a grid of okay these are zoning violations these are things we would love to request to be changed and you know i'm not category whatever but anyway so it's amazing so then you know nate can take that list and do one series of letters and you know it's like so signs that are in violation etc but also so that everybody knows that everybody's getting the same notice and it's all about the corridor and it's not like why is my business being targeted right so it's getting those temporary signs out it's getting you know we can't do anything with donation boxes that we have to do something in zoning right so it's like what can we enforce now what would we enforce with good zoning and then what would we just as good neighbors ask them to do like katie's favorite the verizon that chain link fence there's no zoning there's no you know you can't force them to do anything but you can request them as good neighbors and you know if they see that the entire corner is getting elevated maybe they'll serve a purpose that fence no but they can you know even if we change zoning it'll it would be grandfathered so you know if they took it down they would have to comply with any new zoning but okay keep it there forever that's 100 years so anyway so i'll circulate that um let's see i think we've sent it to bill tom uh yeah because they were both interested in it built from a design perspective and then tom from a cda oh i know bills so me and bill are discussing that he's making some minor changes to the design guidelines mm-hmm not a major one just some minor ones because they were looking for going through it and like there's some pictures that like outdated like you just need to change the pictures out like these pictures are so outdated like it doesn't you can't tell where it is it's gone the building is right in there yeah it just needs to be like a fresh like relook yeah okay so i'll circulate that um but that's definitely the goal right now we're heading into winter but if we can get some mechanism going for the spring then that corridor could look completely different next year yeah it's gonna be really interesting i'm still waiting here back rain and so wait but it's jerry mike's i mean um not jerry mike jimmy john i haven't heard anything about them in a while i thought they got their permit building well everybody's got permit they just haven't done anything yet if they got it they just haven't done anything maybe we reach out and find out yeah yeah just ping them i mean they have so many other it's not like it's not like one property owner like i only own this property or i own it i own two other properties they just they're building other places too so i'm not sure it was kind of cute or just like in line then should i remember they say we're the work on there they were so anxious to get going yeah plus the smartest thing they'd ever do is be open for the construction site when terrain happens yeah yeah it's like every construction worker will be right in line i'm curious about how many jobs that terrain will bring in from like a job in a permanent perspective but construction will also be a ton of people oh certainly tons yeah yeah yeah i i have seen movement it just doesn't seem like very slow it feels like they're still pulling stuff out from the inside yeah they're still internal well not a lot happens on the exterior so most of it is interior so maybe we're just not yeah because they're sort of adding a door where the drive-through is but you're not going to see a lot of changes on this year so except for the walk-in crew they need they need to come back they need to come back to the zba to do the outdoor seating we negotiated it out with a decision i think it was like before they get the ceo they need to come back to zba to get the outdoor seating site plan so we just kind of kicked it down the road instead of just like waiting for them to apply for a site plan and then prove the special point we just kind of like made the condition so they have plenty of time to do that but they still don't need to do that too which it's not every hour which i guess so the site plan for the outdoor seating approval yeah for the outdoor so they can't put they can't bring out on that patio they cannot put a chair a table like yeah they won't be allowed to do that currently today so oh yeah maybe right after this we'll just hop across and see if we can catch any find out status on some of these things with dean with duncan and you know where they are be good to know and then we can plug in and ask them help anything we can do um and it'd be good to know their timing yeah then the question is do they want to start publicizing that if they're comfortable within their opening is oh duncan's coming in january yeah whatever yeah so okay that's going to be a great recording they probably get the little duncan uh mascot to come out he like dances around but he hasn't great i don't know if we're in the out of town it's coming up a day like it's extorted that would be pretty p crazy you hear that yeah changing the name that was that was pretty nuts that was a great challenge all right so uh route 20 master plan we talked about a little bit so that's low perk the sidewalk and curb cut engineering i did talk with tom michael muck um right now uh tom is definitely on his list but he's got between mwra and yes sherman bridge is a thing so yeah so he's kind of tied up and so with a goal is right up to the beginning of the new year um to kind of dust that off and get that going so first thing that has to happen is an rfp um and the question is is it a working group whatever it'll probably be informal um but that's the timeline probably january ish for that to clear out at least sherman bridge should clear out by then mwr will be ramping up dating but so we will keep that on the agenda it'll be january before we know it um ribbon cuttings we talked about so it's car we have no idea what i haven't heard of them i cannot get a con for them do you have one uh what's her name the um nikki julie i don't know that jackie jackie jackie jackie i think i do let's see you and i connect and we'll try to figure that out um i wouldn't think that they're waiting i mean i thought they had a sign late so i can't imagine they're waiting for the closing but i don't know good to know when that's that's happening eventually because i think that restaurant wants to go in there where takara is so i what restaurant another restaurant and i talked i talked to someone who wanted to bring the restaurant it was a company that i was familiar with from another town they used to have a town there they sold the company and so i want to do a little bit something a little bit different but so they are interested for the brokers are marketing it so yeah restaurant is plug and play as opposed to yeah converting another space so hopefully and they wouldn't make a lot sense if what we do when we eventually do be able to have uh they make more sense to have like a restaurant right like one or two so did nance have minimums that they needed
that off actually that's a good question i wonder if they would ever do like a mini just chicken take outside or something because you figure in stowa they have very little sit-down space yeah it's all about takeout thank you worth the talk after yeah yeah yeah yeah that's so good yeah all right okay and then collins market we talked about so they should be in good shape knock on wood but they just need to have the next zba meeting um so uh infographic on town center so did you circulate to the to the whole group so it had basically a hole for when we know who the owner is so we can kind of finalize that hopefully by next meeting we should be sure whenever it's public it should be close don't worry once the public that that wayland post would be posting it they've been itching for a name they're trying to feed me the information i'm like that's not it like it's a nelson nelson like nope nothing to do nelson so i'm not sure where they're getting information from it's not me all right so um existing business status so lavins you had kind of given up on lavins because you were trying to call over there did you ever end up stopping by or no you just kind of like every time i've gone by yeah i mean they're either not open in the morning or uh the guy i originally talked to is not there so okay it's another one we can talk i can try to swing by from here again this morning time will be it's a little early yeah yeah kind of afternoon-ish but just try to get to it so it's the right did you get a sense of that or you don't still i did i i talked to him and uh the older gentleman yeah yeah the same as um from a black balance say steve um but when i called back to uh to ask for him there was like a younger there's like a been a younger kid working there yeah and he's convinced um i'm a telemarker and he was uh very he's been just like very belligerent did we know what um this did we ever get to the bottom of the onion the black as far as the deli yeah they um becky dug in and and we got some info and um kind of what he was claiming happens didn't really jive with his story you know in terms of yeah how the path went um communication without talking with them they put together an application for zba to get approved for food use but it was you know typically you have engineered plans if you have a layout and food service is very particular word of health and all that kind of stuff it literally was like a hand sketch plan that's like so they will probably requested to do engineered plans which that's probably right we were hearing these traffic that didn't quite sound right i mean maybe that would have been a question but i think it's just they needed engineer plans um which they probably didn't like that and yeah yeah they probably backed out so so the question is you know could they be helped you know helping hands try to get them through that process since you know it'd be an interesting use for that building but food service is tough i mean it's just there's a lot of apartments yeah i mean he wanted to open it and just uh yeah i think he wanted yeah yeah yeah not so not so easy particularly in a building that has not been used for food service before so so so that's what it looked like and they and then they withdrew it so that's what was on file at the building department so if we can try to meet with that guy and try to talk through him like do you really want to try this and you know how can we help you do that so unfortunately in areas is an area already gone at this point she's gone for weeks so um there's no real kind of sherpa there anymore but if that's small enough we could kind of coordinate with me figure it out i'm a new i'm a new land use guy what's that i'm the new land news guy i'm the one that had the land use group until they hired someone to replace her no we're not hiring a land use corner that's not happening oh yeah that was a failed experiment didn't work oh so but anina is half cva and a half planning board and planning department planning department planning department okay be a board of board of appeals slash building coverage whatever whatever we need you know but yeah okay so yeah i'm gonna try to see if i just kind of randomly buy alcohol every once in a while see if you catch the old guy you see that's the old guy when he says dad looks in back i mean all right we could i don't get a shot i'm trying to get knock on his door often in that area dropping kids off for sports at the high school so i could swing by like late afternoon okay if you just compare notes on the name of the person and i can i can give you if i didn't circulate before i can give you guys the copy of the application which would have the name on it you can see if it did i can bring my kids in there's a you know that's getting a bit more innocent than i do there you go all right so try to keep that moving along and then the economic development bond bill after nothing so you know given all the economic stresses this may be a little while i did i i was reading over the route 20 master plan for sudbury and one of the things that they're trying to form a in edc in sudbury and then i know i am said hiring back on development coordinator manager whatever it is so i talked to them the plane doctor and like potentially down the road is there something we can kind of work together we could be hiring someone to do on development for a hard time for sudbury and weyland so try to try to get every kind of avenue this money inflicted oh yeah yeah yeah um it'd be good from a money-saving perspective but there's a conflict there like you usher in a business so why'd you put them in sudbury instead of weyland that's right yeah it's good i don't know it's an idea because one is trying to be more uh flexible because we're not right now they should extend that subject line for us that would be yeah here we go they can help out that's yeah um so but that was one of the the questions of you know talking with fincom is we're going to have some extra meals tax we talked we didn't know we have the bills tax but we're going to have additional meals tax so it should be substantial between we got we got the bottom right right we do have meal tax we do have meals tax yeah so it's like three hundred thousand dollars a year so we could have another probably seventy thousand which would so then that money has never been it been where does it go right it should have to go it should not be forever it should not be going on a general fund it's been awesome they've been putting in the general plan every year yeah it should have been years ago it's been pulled out for a different light item because that's every every town that's now passing no tax they're automatically putting it right into a new fund and saying well you can use it for hire someone you can use it for grants you use it for whatever xyz yeah and i'll ask me what do you guys want to do with money but yeah and this town is like we're just popping in the general fund and then you have to see it again disappears which is kind of a uh so that was one of the suggestions to pincoms like taking that short dollars and yeah magnifying it so what are you thinking about uh the local anymore nothing once we hear from the new owners local yeah for the news i'm sitting here no no no no all right so wait wait we are you have something else um yes can we add to the agenda or the to-do list and then the agenda for the next one um when i had that discussion at the vbc ribbon opening around uh with michael and the manager there around um oh yeah like there's no way for those but like those businesses can't promote themselves through the town newsletter like hopefully the new folk the new owners will i'm sure they will take a much stronger hand and in marketing the businesses that are in there will be great finally however i still think it would we talked about connecting vvc with the gentleman over at um what's it called yeah um so i do think it's like that idea of like let's just start to connect them so they can start to make their own waves and work together and it's that's and you needed that contact to joint ventures i think i do need the joint ventures on attack but then yeah i'm happy one other thing that i had been thinking about before and i don't know if we'd mentioned it but for because i haven't even been inside yet i have to like just with the one place yeah i have to like pop in so the question is i mean we all know in town if our kids went there like you know where to go but you get a lot of people from a lot of other towns who don't know is the way to have some kind of map for people if they've dropped off their kid before they leave or whatever their waiting area is have you checked out the local businesses you know whether it's stop and shop whether it's a kale salon whether it's like whatever it is the bank local like whatever it is put it on a map and people can see it i had a map for the festival it was pretty good i don't think i saw it oh it was i saw it yeah because she had a map like i think she had a map but i'm not sure if she can put locations if she can just like take location and edit a map and put a location on it yeah i'm not sure where to get it but it looks really good uh all right uh any contact with katherine with the whole play you don't smash that or no i i can do it i'm gonna ask her about data anyway oh perfect oh yeah yeah because we could take that and then you know kind of do it for them right or we can give it to them and they can print it out and have it there so the talent the talent center has a map on their website although they do but it's it's kind of small it's the idea of like at hand like someone comes in they drop off their kid it's sitting right there on the desk and they're like oh yeah like there's you know here's a guide for what to do nearby and somebody just grabs it or a big sticker for their window or something yeah yeah yeah something's easy if you have an hour go to x-golf like right it wouldn't occur to them sitting in the volleyball place we also talked about about about maybe them getting local license at the volleyball place yes that would be the other thing we would love to have a local license like yeah you have volleyball yeah they have that golf place next door that has a license like if you do you can have like so they're gonna try to ramp it up maybe meet up a little bit time think about it yeah well it's funny because the owner was like yeah we want to do it and managers sort of sort of looked at him like okay i was like we're doing it i was like you are doing it yes uh at buvc they were saying this idea they understand that there's a real need for third spaces and so this idea of creating a place for people to not only just like like leave their kid and linger but also for people like who have nothing to do with buvc they just like come in and hang out it pickleball yeah yeah pickleball or just like yeah let's meet up then yeah so like little so it's what that thing it needs you need somewhere else that's not a store or a restaurant you need something else where people can gather and then maybe go somewhere else and kind of like exactly the third place a gathering space that's one of the good hub does anyone know how to book space at the community center yes it's through uh there's a form that you feel i think it's rec department it's the community center though did they i think it's on that the info doc that we just made because before it was phone number which was that was that's what you do you called yeah but what is this okay it should be on the recreation and everyone should have evil equal access too or whatever's open to the public people should just be able to go in and book it it's just i mean i could build this in a day well for now because jayla is moving up to a new position so they're hiring someone she's usually issues i assume next few weeks well three weeks maybe two weeks now so she's she's moving to a communication role right and then there'll be new guy from michael and slap one so can i just add one more quick thing yeah um infographic number five i don't know um just uh idea that i have in advance of the fincom joint meeting i'm wondering if um i could potentially we could draft up something that kind of lays the financial numbers for wayland like the how much the commercial like kind of based on that document that you gave us how much the commercial district brings in how much like the townhomes bring in um just kind of some of that basic raw data i think would be really helpful for the residents of waitland to see that's kind of that's part of our goal is to get the final info from them which is why we haven't already done this well i'm wondering if we draft it for them and then we could just drop in like yeah use it for fincom like this is how you communicate to non-fincom people and here's yeah yeah it's just kind of here's what we're looking for joint message with them yeah here's what we're looking from you here's what we could just drop into these different five it could be so simple yeah okay um so if we like that idea and something that i could draft up yeah and we can circulate yeah okay let's step on okay all right anything else before we wrap up hearing them all right so our next meeting is i don't know i believe it's the two 14th so that is i don't know if anybody veterans anywhere that's the 11th so it's that friday of that week everybody around the 14th oh i am around that's fine sorry we're sharing the 14th november yep so it's going to come up pretty quick because we had this one a week later so okay so 11 14 at 8 30. can we send a um you know just if someone's not here um like just send out like an immediate calendar invite with the date just that sometimes we get it from the town every time i would send it out in the town it happened but it's like like when i missed i should have asked i missed the last meeting like hey when's the next meeting but then like two days before yep like here's the agenda for two days yeah i i knew i was expecting it to be coming up but yeah it it doesn't come out for some i'm i'm totally hooked into the uh email too but okay but are you are you an outlook you're the google person um i'm
i mean i can know it's fine because i just like put like no but it doesn't matter so we have two places at this point for november december i'll send those so you have playholders and then ideally well you know when i register the meeting typically they send that email okay but this one was late vacation i think i think i can accept the google cat or invite and get it into outlook well i usually send an outlook because i'm not a google person but you're the you can pick it up or you can't with the with the herring k 9024 i can because it's not my apple id email uh i can't believe my calendars well i was gonna say like do like i can invite people like we should create a process for it which you know what i'm saying yeah because otherwise the google i don't know if i necessarily yeah and it makes me set it up in a google account which i use a google calendar so it doesn't matter though if you use out use you're okay that's fine yeah it shouldn't matter like so for example jeff what's your um you can add it to your apple calendar or whatever yeah it should have the apple calendar will screw some people up yes that's the problem so it should be outlook or google not apple
but you don't know if you're sending it to their apple or not that's the thing well if i do it on my phone it goes my apple calendar i do it through outlook on my laptop then that's oh you're saying as the source yeah yeah no i think google's the safe one like jeff do you do um i guess i would have to use your edc email right any email yeah that's what you see personal right i don't think it well that's your sending wire for a while um nothing i'm not sending anything actually becky how would you like to handle this doesn't it send all three doesn't it it sends um you have to send an actual invitation though not a link i can't stand it people like here's the zoom link but there's no invitation that comes to my calendar it's like so now i still have to go to my calendar and add the zoom link so send it as an act you can still do that from zoom though to send an invitation send a calendar invitation yeah from zoom from zoom and it will have will have the google yeah and the zoom link okay just nice but the zoom link is not going to be one that we're using exactly right yeah so this is the problem no honestly it's all just right now so anyway
so i'll send placeholders and yeah so let's think of that all right anything else before we adjourn for the we really need the weekend we can clearly hearing none do i hear a motion to adjourn katie motion do i hear a second second parent second all in favor aye aye aye aye david he's still there i'm not sure david we may have lost him along the way so 4-0 adjourn at 9 45.