September 2, 2025 – Municipal Affordable Housing Trust – Video & Transcript
September 2, 2025 - Municipal Affordable Housing Trust
Michael Staiti: All right. I
have six o'clock so I'm going to
call the September 2 meeting of
the municipal for Wayland.
municipal Affordable Housing
Trust order one may watch
participate remotely with a
meeting link that can be found
the wayland.mass.us website.
pursuant to chapter two of the
access 2020 25 this meeting will
be conducted via remote means in
accordance with the applicable
law. This meeting may be
recorded which will be made
available to the public on
WayCAM as soon after the meeting
as is practical. In attendance.
we have Michael stady. Jaclyn.
Mary and Susan and also Brian
bossier is a guest attendee.
Next to the agenda is review and
approve minutes of the July 8
meeting. But I don't believe I
haven't seen them.
Mary Antes: I did just send
them. but if people haven't had
time. we can do it next time
Susan Weinstein: I was just
trying to read feverishly.
Michael Staiti: all right? Well. I not able to look at them simultaneously. so we will skip that till next time. So updates.
We are on the agenda for the zba modification for next Tuesday night. the ninth. which Mary has graciously agreed to tend to because I will not be in town. Should be a rubber stamp. The footprint just changed a little bit. I've given Mary's site plans and notes. This is to accommodate habitat design.
Habitat I had a meeting with them two weeks ago. Friday. week and a half ago. and they're making some final changes to the HOA docs. but I incorporated Susan's comments and some that I had. and we're all on the same page. There's a budget question on the insurance which I still try to follow up on with the insurance carrier that Brian uses. Other than that. looked like it was in good shape. with the goal of closing sometime this fall. and habitat did not know when they would start construction. One of the things I'm in trouble with is getting bills paid. We had done a sort of a blanket approval up to certain dollar limits. which isn't satisfying the town they want to see. Each invoice voted on our subs. primarily the engineer and the law firm are getting a little bit annoyed. So we have three bills to vote on and approve tonight. One is for Cornerstone engineering. The $855 bill for the redesign of the site. the condo plan for the zba meeting. I'm looking for a motion to approve that bill. Mary Antes: The motions need to include the source.
Susan Weinstein: I move that we pay the $855 bill to Connor stone engineering with CPA funds.
Michael Staiti: I have a second. I'll second it. Okay. Roll call vote. Jacqueline. yes. Mary. yes. Susan. yep. and Michael. yes. Second. we have two bills that go way back for the condo docs and HOA docs from Mary. Do you have a copy of those? No. I
Susan Weinstein: have a feeling we're paying by the word.
because it is so long and boring. Like. how do people do this kind of I know it's so boring. Michael Staiti: Well. the total the two are $3.200 which is within the estimate they had given us initially. I believe it was $5.000 which we did approve to spend that money. but now we have to approve the specific bills that are totally in $3.200 that go back to last March. I think January. February. March. Susan Weinstein: So is this in addition to the 5000 Michael Staiti: No. oh. okay. this part of the 530 200 to
Susan Weinstein: what's. what's the name of the lawyer. Michael Staiti: all cock. and of course. don't have that up in front of me. Okay. I thought that had been included. I'm just trying to log on now talking so $3.200 correct? But I I want to make sure we approve the specific bill. So let's skip over to the 11 ham and shortfall. Brian can tell us about that while I log on to my computer at the office. Brian Boggia: And is Aaron Guido. a key account from C biz. Is she? She's going to call in. She up there somewhere? Yeah. I
Susan Weinstein: yeah. I don't know how. I don't have authority to move anybody over. I think Brian Boggia: she was just going to call in. I don't have I'm trying to
Michael Staiti: let her in errands. Here now. Okay. great. Unknown: Hi everybody. Hello. Brian Boggia: Hi. So did you get Aaron prepared that handout this morning to help explain what the shortfall is for the $12.870 I don't know if everybody had a chance to look at that. Michael Staiti: Yeah. maybe have. and I think we understood the shortfall last time we talked Brian. the question was. the short wall was covered for in the reserve funds that have been built up. Why was there? What was the need for us to finance additional money to Wayland housing authorities? Do I have that right? You guys. Brian Boggia: Well. I mean. we did. We rented a loss for the last fiscal year. So a lot of that had to do with some cat. You really cat. some major capital improvements of the in the turnover of 11 Hammond road. and also the water bills. Michael Staiti: Yeah. we understand Brian why there was a shortfall. Okay. that's not the issue. I think the issue we had raised was from what we understood. or what I understood was the Wayland Housing Authority had a surplus of funds that had built up from. you know. prior year's rent collection. and that's
Brian Boggia: not agreement. That's yeah. Susan Weinstein: Brian. my understanding is that it's not that we built that up. it's that those were the fees that were due to the housing authority we gave you. Yeah. they shouldn't still be there. you know. Right? Michael Staiti: Okay. okay. that's different. Now I understand. So those weren't really reserved funds. quote. unquote. right? That was part of the fees paid to the Wayland housing authority that are yours. You're entitled to that. Brian Boggia: right? The per the lease agreement. got it. or Michael Staiti: is everybody else on the board understand that I'm going to take that as a yes. So then Brian. your request is that the Board approve funding over this shortfall of $12.870 Unknown: Correct? Okay. Does Michael Staiti: anybody have any questions for Brian about why there's a shortfall. or why he's requesting the repayment of that shortfall.
Susan Weinstein: My only question is. is there still any money in our in the capital account? Brian Boggia: Yeah. the money is still untouched in the capital account. It probably should be increased to cover this type of eventuality. But they were. you know. the repairs that we did probably weren't capital improvements. but they were major improvements to the unit. and
Susan Weinstein: that balance is still 2500 is that 2500 Yeah. okay.
Michael Staiti: so there's 2500 in the capital account. and we owe you 12.008 70. So. Susan. you proposing that we access that capital account plus and then fund the rest or fund the 12 eight? Susan Weinstein: No. I think fund the 12 eight. I was just curious. when Brian Boggia: the capital reserve alone down the line. you might want to consider increasing that 2500 Yeah.
Susan Weinstein: I'm just trying to think. I think we can pay this out of Community Preservation. Wait. when we acquired this property. did we use Community Preservation funds? Michael Staiti: No idea. Susan Weinstein: I think we had to. What else would we use? I think it did. All right. In that case. we can. Use funds to rehabilitate or whatever. So I would move that we reimburse the Housing Authority. What did you say? Unknown: $12.870 Yes. yes. yes.
Susan Weinstein: For expenditures at 11 Hammond road and at the funds come from the CPA fund. Great. Michael Staiti: Do I have a second? Second? Okay. roll call vote. Jackie. yes. Mary. yes. Susan. yes. and Mike. yes.
Great. Brian. thank you.
Susan Weinstein: Should we ask Aaron anything. just to. you know. make it worthwhile that she's waiting. I'm here. If you have any questions. is there anything we should be asking? Unknown: No. I think it's pretty straightforward.
Susan Weinstein: There's nothing. I think noteworthy to point out. Okay. in that case. thanks for coming. You're welcome. Everybody. Have a good Brian Boggia: night. Thank you. Thank you. Great.
Michael Staiti: So while I was letting Aaron and I Okay. never mind. there was somebody else in the attendees. but they dropped out. Okay. great. Now we're gonna go back. I dug up the legal bills. So there are two legal bills. one from March and one from April. The March invoice is a total of $1.799.50
revisions to master deed. declaration of trust. Correspond with client regarding with trial. send documents to client with summary provisions. and work on condominium documents. So I need someone to move approval of the April 30 invoice totaling $1.065 to Alcock and Marcus. Do we have a motion?
Susan Weinstein: So what's the all. right? I mean. I don't think that they should have to issue. this is the same firm. right for both. okay? I think that they shouldn't have to issue two checks. correct? So whatever is the total. Michael Staiti: So the total is $2.864.50 and that's for March and April of this year. for the condominium documents. getting it removed from the land registry. etc. Summit. Mary Antes: Huh? What is the sum? Again. 2008 2000 $2.864.50
Thank you.
Michael Staiti: And the firm is Alcock. a. L. L. C. O. C. K. and Marcus.
Susan Weinstein: And is that the entirety of what we're paying them. or is there still anything outstanding Michael Staiti: that's entirely what we owe them right now. So Okay. Susan Weinstein: and we'll still owe them for what. Michael Staiti: potentially for some edits. and then I'm sure when we go to record condo docs and deeds. when the property sells to habitat. okay.
Susan Weinstein: I move that we pay to the firm of Alcock and Marcus The total of $2.864.50 for legal work related to the property on Hammond road. and that the funds come from Community Preservation funds. Michael Staiti: Great. We have a second. Unknown: I'll second it. Michael Staiti: Roll Call. Jackie. yes. Mary. yes. Susan. yep. and Mike. yes. excellent. Thank you. Those people will be happy to be paid Susan Weinstein: now. So we haven't received a June or July or August. No. we don't Michael Staiti: have any. Okay anymore since then. all right now. Mary or Susan. you might know the answer to this. I know I don't. Do we have to then wait another meeting to approve these minutes to then send it to get the town to pay this. Mary Antes: Yeah. they need approved minutes. So while. Already told them that what the situation is that we'd meet today and that our next meeting. we'd approve the minutes. so I'm sorry for the delay. but I don't know that there's anything we can do about Susan Weinstein: it. Well. I have a question. I didn't see the annual report on the agenda. Mary Antes: I didn't. I didn't see that. We got a note about Susan Weinstein: it. Yeah. they're due September 30. so let's plan to have a meeting in the next couple of weeks. And it all has to be is these minutes and the annual report. Michael Staiti: Okay. fine. we'll get to that at our next meeting.
Mary Antes: Susan. you're going to do the annual report. I am. that's a question.
Susan Weinstein: but not really. Well I've written two. so I guess I could go for three Mary Antes: and even five.
Susan Weinstein: No. and I'm curious. I guess if I look back through the minutes. I'll know what we did this year.
Michael Staiti: Not much. I mean. really. we've just been making steady progress on 11 Hammond so should be a pretty short annual report. unfortunately. Mary Antes: All right. that usually is some sort of financial report. but I'm not sure that we can do that Susan Weinstein: this time. I'll get in touch with Kevin ANC.
okay. we have some kind of reports. Michael Staiti: So moving on Good Shepherd development. Anybody have any updates on that?
Mary Antes: There's still. I think. some conservation issue. but otherwise. I think things are moving ahead.
As far as there's the monthly housing meeting. and so that's at the at the last one. which was August 5. a the HOME funds have not yet been committed for the Saint Anne's project. They need an environmental review. and so there's an extension. but they expect that there will be some HOME funds that will be voted for the support of that project.
Michael Staiti: Okay. so we're obviously not going to draw down our funds yet. No. nothing we need to Mary Antes: do. They did mention the cascade. which is moving ahead. and it's 60 ownership units. and School Street is coming in at seven units. but there is a conservation issue there. so there is some movement In both of those projects.
Michael Staiti: All right.
the shared living to 12 constituent advisory committees met twice. The committee's leaning towards probably maybe just two. two units. homes. one group home and one sell that a lot as a market rate lot. but that's very early in the discussions. I know that's largely in line. or the group homes largely in line with what was approved at Tom meeting. I had broached the subject earlier on of doing something a little higher density there. including the group home. did not gain a lot of traction. So that's kind of the general direction things are headed now. There's multiple meetings set up over the next few months to get to the point where the committee will recommend something to the board. Selectmen in in the spring. That's what I have there for now. Our next meeting is tomorrow night. so at our next meeting. I'll have more to report Susan Weinstein: with shared living. Does each bedroom count as a unit for affordable housing? Mary Antes: Yes. I got an email today about an upcoming thing at the board of selectmen tomorrow night from a from a particular group that has a film. and I. there was this invitation to come and see the film. And so. Michael Staiti: and was the film regarding. Mary Antes: I think it's a particular
Susan Weinstein: people with intellectual disabilities. yeah. the life. the life of individuals.
Michael Staiti: All right. so any other questions on 212 to it Susan Weinstein: would be nice if they consider doing something denser and something more affordable housing ish. so I wasn't Michael Staiti: at town meeting when this was approved. I've read a little bit of what was approved. what was the general consensus of people that were speaking. you know. for or against. and what was approved? Susan Weinstein: Well. the thing that was approved was there had to be at least one affordable or and or shared living in order for there to be a market rate. because people were concerned that we would approve this. and it gave the Select Board broad discretion to put anything there. and we didn't. We didn't want them to just be able to do Michael Staiti: so there could be more than one affordable and there could be just affordable. It's just. if you're going to do a market rate. that has to be one affordable. right? Susan Weinstein: I don't remember if. if it had to be more I don't think. I don't think the language was that there had to be more affordable than unaffordable market rate. Sorry. same thing.
Mary Antes: My sense was that there was quite a bit of support at town meeting for it. though. mean
Michael Staiti: more affordable or just for this concept. Mary Antes: or for a shared living facility? Michael Staiti: Yeah. no. Everybody's behind lots and lots of support for shared living. but that's just one building with. you know. six to eight or nine bedrooms. Susan Weinstein: I mean. nobody said we don't need affordable housing. and nobody objected to making it clear that affordable housing and or shared living was required.
Mary Antes: But I think there were a lot of speakers at the Pro Mic ready to stand up for having shared living. I agree. I think there's a fair amount of support for that. Michael Staiti: There's a ton of support for that. I'm you know. what I was hoping for was more support to do a higher density project. to have some additional affordable in there.
Susan Weinstein: I mean. is the Select Board still trying to make money off of it? I mean. it sounds like it's
Michael Staiti: coming right on said that. but Susan Weinstein: Well. if they're trying to sell part of it. then yes. yeah. I mean. if we already have the land. right? Michael Staiti: So I guess what I'm trying to understand. our trust would support a higher density. fully affordable project. And do you want to commit funds to it?
Mary Antes: I am. I would. I would. too. Michael Staiti: Jackie. Yep. great. I will be pushing for that little harder at our next meeting. Okay.
I don't know what this next item on the update is. meeting of affordable housing trust on July 16. I don't understand what that means. Mary Antes: Uh. I've mentioned before that there are regular meetings of the various housing trusts in this area. and they had this one in July. and the primary agenda item was the transfer fee presentation. Carmine Gentile has a bill that would allow communities to have real estate transfer fees so that and the money then would be used for affordable housing. And they figure that. you know. we might get a million dollars by enacting I acting local real estate transfer fee. I mentioned it at the last joint housing meeting. and so my impression is that Robert Hummel will put that on the agenda for the next meeting. it would charge. It would be similar to the CPA. and that as real estate is sold. there would be a fee that would come to the town. and it would go for affordable housing. Michael Staiti: Got it okay. See what happens with that. Next item on the agenda is considered purchase of property at 14 West plain. I believe the slack man sent this over for us to look at or to Robert Hummel. No. Selectman. Blackman. so Is everybody familiar with 14 West Main on the corner opposite Dunkin Donuts. across from the CVS? Mary Antes: Yeah. it's right next door to the Cochituate ball field Susan Weinstein: and the gas station. not the abandoned Michael Staiti: gas station. Yes. next to it. it's a Class A. B or B office building currently being sold by a private developer. I forget the price. like 1.5 maybe. Yep. yep. They can. So select me. I wanted us to take a look at it. I think it's too much of a challenge for our trust to take on. primarily because of the cost of the conversion from current office to any kind of residential would be at least the same. 1.5 we'd have to pay for it. and I just don't see that it's good use of our money.
Susan Weinstein: So the board is having like an open forum on the 15th. I mean. it's a shame. because it's a really great location for affordable housing or shared living.
Michael Staiti: Yep. and you know. if you had a shared living partner that wanted to come in and do the work to convert it be a great scenario. but I don't know how we could go ahead and try to we could buy it. We have the money. but we're close to have the money. Susan Weinstein: I mean. I don't. I don't know if it would be 1.5 because we would have to have it appraised. or the Select Board has got is getting it appraised. I don't know. And we can't pay more than the appraisal. You would know better than me whether it's going to go for 1.5 Yeah. I Michael Staiti: mean vacant office building. I mean square footage wise. it should. But. you know. office buildings aren't exactly in favor these days. So. right? It's true. It's hard to say. Let's assume it appraises for one four. even one three. right? You know. for us to just buy it and sit on it doesn't really make any sense. And without having a partner in place that would come in and we sell them for $1 under a de restriction that it gets converted to a group home for the next 99 years. that'd be a great scenario. but we don't have that partner in place. Susan Weinstein: Yes. would it need. like. substantial re plumbing? Michael Staiti: Oh. we need everything accessibility. jack hammering. floors. I don't know if it's on a foundation or not. but yeah. every bathroom would have to be handicapped accessible. I mean. I know my company built the one next to the coach krill for Charles River. And. you know. there's a ton of things that go into those to make them code compliant and meet the needs of the residents. Unknown: So it would be a ramp. Michael Staiti: yeah. it has ramp already. No. it'd be a astronomical expense to you know. is it ground up? Would it ground up be cheaper? Probably not. But sometimes it happens that way. You know. basically you're buying a shell. So at this point. I mean. unless somebody wants to reach out to different groups. like. like a Charles River. some of the same ones that the 212 Cochituate committee is talking to. I don't see any scenario where we can buy that converted even into just for rent. condos or bedrooms. That makes any sense whatsoever with this board.
Susan Weinstein: Such a shame. Unknown: Yep. All right. so Michael Staiti: if it's not reasonably considered. think this brings us to the Annual Report. which Susan has graciously agreed to write. So Susan. When could you have that done so we could schedule in the next meeting? So two weeks from tonight would be 916 which would work for me?
Unknown: Please? Michael Staiti: I would schedule just a 15 minute meeting.
Susan Weinstein: I could do the 16th
Mary Antes: like I can too. Jackie.
Unknown: not sure how I got myself muted. but yes.
Michael Staiti: All right. so let's plan on the 16 Mary Antes: at at six o'clock. six o'clock. Michael Staiti: 15 minute meeting. General will be approved the annual report. improve the minutes from the last two meetings. and then any updates that develop between now and Susan Weinstein: then. yeah. even if other committees are meeting if we're at six and finishing before 630 then I don't think that's going to be an issue for zoom access. yeah. and but we'll have two sets of meeting minutes. since we didn't Do them tonight.
Mary Antes: Okay. I will let the town. oh. Michael Staiti: you'll close that agenda. Mary. yeah. I'll be out of town. So just. just post it. Okay. something that's missed. We can just cover it under the Topics not reasonably okay. Susan Weinstein: we'll. we'll approve the minutes that we didn't do tonight and the ones from tonight. Unknown: right? Michael Staiti: And the annual report. right? Susan Weinstein: I was just focusing on minutes.
Michael Staiti: All right. all right. I have a motion to adjourn. Susan Weinstein: It is 633 and I move that we adjourn Michael Staiti: second very Roll Call. Vote. Susan. yes. Jackie. yes. Mary. yes. Mike. yes. great. Thanks. guys. thanks everybody. Thank you.
Michael Staiti: all right? Well. I not able to look at them simultaneously. so we will skip that till next time. So updates.
We are on the agenda for the zba modification for next Tuesday night. the ninth. which Mary has graciously agreed to tend to because I will not be in town. Should be a rubber stamp. The footprint just changed a little bit. I've given Mary's site plans and notes. This is to accommodate habitat design.
Habitat I had a meeting with them two weeks ago. Friday. week and a half ago. and they're making some final changes to the HOA docs. but I incorporated Susan's comments and some that I had. and we're all on the same page. There's a budget question on the insurance which I still try to follow up on with the insurance carrier that Brian uses. Other than that. looked like it was in good shape. with the goal of closing sometime this fall. and habitat did not know when they would start construction. One of the things I'm in trouble with is getting bills paid. We had done a sort of a blanket approval up to certain dollar limits. which isn't satisfying the town they want to see. Each invoice voted on our subs. primarily the engineer and the law firm are getting a little bit annoyed. So we have three bills to vote on and approve tonight. One is for Cornerstone engineering. The $855 bill for the redesign of the site. the condo plan for the zba meeting. I'm looking for a motion to approve that bill. Mary Antes: The motions need to include the source.
Susan Weinstein: I move that we pay the $855 bill to Connor stone engineering with CPA funds.
Michael Staiti: I have a second. I'll second it. Okay. Roll call vote. Jacqueline. yes. Mary. yes. Susan. yep. and Michael. yes. Second. we have two bills that go way back for the condo docs and HOA docs from Mary. Do you have a copy of those? No. I
Susan Weinstein: have a feeling we're paying by the word.
because it is so long and boring. Like. how do people do this kind of I know it's so boring. Michael Staiti: Well. the total the two are $3.200 which is within the estimate they had given us initially. I believe it was $5.000 which we did approve to spend that money. but now we have to approve the specific bills that are totally in $3.200 that go back to last March. I think January. February. March. Susan Weinstein: So is this in addition to the 5000 Michael Staiti: No. oh. okay. this part of the 530 200 to
Susan Weinstein: what's. what's the name of the lawyer. Michael Staiti: all cock. and of course. don't have that up in front of me. Okay. I thought that had been included. I'm just trying to log on now talking so $3.200 correct? But I I want to make sure we approve the specific bill. So let's skip over to the 11 ham and shortfall. Brian can tell us about that while I log on to my computer at the office. Brian Boggia: And is Aaron Guido. a key account from C biz. Is she? She's going to call in. She up there somewhere? Yeah. I
Susan Weinstein: yeah. I don't know how. I don't have authority to move anybody over. I think Brian Boggia: she was just going to call in. I don't have I'm trying to
Michael Staiti: let her in errands. Here now. Okay. great. Unknown: Hi everybody. Hello. Brian Boggia: Hi. So did you get Aaron prepared that handout this morning to help explain what the shortfall is for the $12.870 I don't know if everybody had a chance to look at that. Michael Staiti: Yeah. maybe have. and I think we understood the shortfall last time we talked Brian. the question was. the short wall was covered for in the reserve funds that have been built up. Why was there? What was the need for us to finance additional money to Wayland housing authorities? Do I have that right? You guys. Brian Boggia: Well. I mean. we did. We rented a loss for the last fiscal year. So a lot of that had to do with some cat. You really cat. some major capital improvements of the in the turnover of 11 Hammond road. and also the water bills. Michael Staiti: Yeah. we understand Brian why there was a shortfall. Okay. that's not the issue. I think the issue we had raised was from what we understood. or what I understood was the Wayland Housing Authority had a surplus of funds that had built up from. you know. prior year's rent collection. and that's
Brian Boggia: not agreement. That's yeah. Susan Weinstein: Brian. my understanding is that it's not that we built that up. it's that those were the fees that were due to the housing authority we gave you. Yeah. they shouldn't still be there. you know. Right? Michael Staiti: Okay. okay. that's different. Now I understand. So those weren't really reserved funds. quote. unquote. right? That was part of the fees paid to the Wayland housing authority that are yours. You're entitled to that. Brian Boggia: right? The per the lease agreement. got it. or Michael Staiti: is everybody else on the board understand that I'm going to take that as a yes. So then Brian. your request is that the Board approve funding over this shortfall of $12.870 Unknown: Correct? Okay. Does Michael Staiti: anybody have any questions for Brian about why there's a shortfall. or why he's requesting the repayment of that shortfall.
Susan Weinstein: My only question is. is there still any money in our in the capital account? Brian Boggia: Yeah. the money is still untouched in the capital account. It probably should be increased to cover this type of eventuality. But they were. you know. the repairs that we did probably weren't capital improvements. but they were major improvements to the unit. and
Susan Weinstein: that balance is still 2500 is that 2500 Yeah. okay.
Michael Staiti: so there's 2500 in the capital account. and we owe you 12.008 70. So. Susan. you proposing that we access that capital account plus and then fund the rest or fund the 12 eight? Susan Weinstein: No. I think fund the 12 eight. I was just curious. when Brian Boggia: the capital reserve alone down the line. you might want to consider increasing that 2500 Yeah.
Susan Weinstein: I'm just trying to think. I think we can pay this out of Community Preservation. Wait. when we acquired this property. did we use Community Preservation funds? Michael Staiti: No idea. Susan Weinstein: I think we had to. What else would we use? I think it did. All right. In that case. we can. Use funds to rehabilitate or whatever. So I would move that we reimburse the Housing Authority. What did you say? Unknown: $12.870 Yes. yes. yes.
Susan Weinstein: For expenditures at 11 Hammond road and at the funds come from the CPA fund. Great. Michael Staiti: Do I have a second? Second? Okay. roll call vote. Jackie. yes. Mary. yes. Susan. yes. and Mike. yes.
Great. Brian. thank you.
Susan Weinstein: Should we ask Aaron anything. just to. you know. make it worthwhile that she's waiting. I'm here. If you have any questions. is there anything we should be asking? Unknown: No. I think it's pretty straightforward.
Susan Weinstein: There's nothing. I think noteworthy to point out. Okay. in that case. thanks for coming. You're welcome. Everybody. Have a good Brian Boggia: night. Thank you. Thank you. Great.
Michael Staiti: So while I was letting Aaron and I Okay. never mind. there was somebody else in the attendees. but they dropped out. Okay. great. Now we're gonna go back. I dug up the legal bills. So there are two legal bills. one from March and one from April. The March invoice is a total of $1.799.50
revisions to master deed. declaration of trust. Correspond with client regarding with trial. send documents to client with summary provisions. and work on condominium documents. So I need someone to move approval of the April 30 invoice totaling $1.065 to Alcock and Marcus. Do we have a motion?
Susan Weinstein: So what's the all. right? I mean. I don't think that they should have to issue. this is the same firm. right for both. okay? I think that they shouldn't have to issue two checks. correct? So whatever is the total. Michael Staiti: So the total is $2.864.50 and that's for March and April of this year. for the condominium documents. getting it removed from the land registry. etc. Summit. Mary Antes: Huh? What is the sum? Again. 2008 2000 $2.864.50
Thank you.
Michael Staiti: And the firm is Alcock. a. L. L. C. O. C. K. and Marcus.
Susan Weinstein: And is that the entirety of what we're paying them. or is there still anything outstanding Michael Staiti: that's entirely what we owe them right now. So Okay. Susan Weinstein: and we'll still owe them for what. Michael Staiti: potentially for some edits. and then I'm sure when we go to record condo docs and deeds. when the property sells to habitat. okay.
Susan Weinstein: I move that we pay to the firm of Alcock and Marcus The total of $2.864.50 for legal work related to the property on Hammond road. and that the funds come from Community Preservation funds. Michael Staiti: Great. We have a second. Unknown: I'll second it. Michael Staiti: Roll Call. Jackie. yes. Mary. yes. Susan. yep. and Mike. yes. excellent. Thank you. Those people will be happy to be paid Susan Weinstein: now. So we haven't received a June or July or August. No. we don't Michael Staiti: have any. Okay anymore since then. all right now. Mary or Susan. you might know the answer to this. I know I don't. Do we have to then wait another meeting to approve these minutes to then send it to get the town to pay this. Mary Antes: Yeah. they need approved minutes. So while. Already told them that what the situation is that we'd meet today and that our next meeting. we'd approve the minutes. so I'm sorry for the delay. but I don't know that there's anything we can do about Susan Weinstein: it. Well. I have a question. I didn't see the annual report on the agenda. Mary Antes: I didn't. I didn't see that. We got a note about Susan Weinstein: it. Yeah. they're due September 30. so let's plan to have a meeting in the next couple of weeks. And it all has to be is these minutes and the annual report. Michael Staiti: Okay. fine. we'll get to that at our next meeting.
Mary Antes: Susan. you're going to do the annual report. I am. that's a question.
Susan Weinstein: but not really. Well I've written two. so I guess I could go for three Mary Antes: and even five.
Susan Weinstein: No. and I'm curious. I guess if I look back through the minutes. I'll know what we did this year.
Michael Staiti: Not much. I mean. really. we've just been making steady progress on 11 Hammond so should be a pretty short annual report. unfortunately. Mary Antes: All right. that usually is some sort of financial report. but I'm not sure that we can do that Susan Weinstein: this time. I'll get in touch with Kevin ANC.
okay. we have some kind of reports. Michael Staiti: So moving on Good Shepherd development. Anybody have any updates on that?
Mary Antes: There's still. I think. some conservation issue. but otherwise. I think things are moving ahead.
As far as there's the monthly housing meeting. and so that's at the at the last one. which was August 5. a the HOME funds have not yet been committed for the Saint Anne's project. They need an environmental review. and so there's an extension. but they expect that there will be some HOME funds that will be voted for the support of that project.
Michael Staiti: Okay. so we're obviously not going to draw down our funds yet. No. nothing we need to Mary Antes: do. They did mention the cascade. which is moving ahead. and it's 60 ownership units. and School Street is coming in at seven units. but there is a conservation issue there. so there is some movement In both of those projects.
Michael Staiti: All right.
the shared living to 12 constituent advisory committees met twice. The committee's leaning towards probably maybe just two. two units. homes. one group home and one sell that a lot as a market rate lot. but that's very early in the discussions. I know that's largely in line. or the group homes largely in line with what was approved at Tom meeting. I had broached the subject earlier on of doing something a little higher density there. including the group home. did not gain a lot of traction. So that's kind of the general direction things are headed now. There's multiple meetings set up over the next few months to get to the point where the committee will recommend something to the board. Selectmen in in the spring. That's what I have there for now. Our next meeting is tomorrow night. so at our next meeting. I'll have more to report Susan Weinstein: with shared living. Does each bedroom count as a unit for affordable housing? Mary Antes: Yes. I got an email today about an upcoming thing at the board of selectmen tomorrow night from a from a particular group that has a film. and I. there was this invitation to come and see the film. And so. Michael Staiti: and was the film regarding. Mary Antes: I think it's a particular
Susan Weinstein: people with intellectual disabilities. yeah. the life. the life of individuals.
Michael Staiti: All right. so any other questions on 212 to it Susan Weinstein: would be nice if they consider doing something denser and something more affordable housing ish. so I wasn't Michael Staiti: at town meeting when this was approved. I've read a little bit of what was approved. what was the general consensus of people that were speaking. you know. for or against. and what was approved? Susan Weinstein: Well. the thing that was approved was there had to be at least one affordable or and or shared living in order for there to be a market rate. because people were concerned that we would approve this. and it gave the Select Board broad discretion to put anything there. and we didn't. We didn't want them to just be able to do Michael Staiti: so there could be more than one affordable and there could be just affordable. It's just. if you're going to do a market rate. that has to be one affordable. right? Susan Weinstein: I don't remember if. if it had to be more I don't think. I don't think the language was that there had to be more affordable than unaffordable market rate. Sorry. same thing.
Mary Antes: My sense was that there was quite a bit of support at town meeting for it. though. mean
Michael Staiti: more affordable or just for this concept. Mary Antes: or for a shared living facility? Michael Staiti: Yeah. no. Everybody's behind lots and lots of support for shared living. but that's just one building with. you know. six to eight or nine bedrooms. Susan Weinstein: I mean. nobody said we don't need affordable housing. and nobody objected to making it clear that affordable housing and or shared living was required.
Mary Antes: But I think there were a lot of speakers at the Pro Mic ready to stand up for having shared living. I agree. I think there's a fair amount of support for that. Michael Staiti: There's a ton of support for that. I'm you know. what I was hoping for was more support to do a higher density project. to have some additional affordable in there.
Susan Weinstein: I mean. is the Select Board still trying to make money off of it? I mean. it sounds like it's
Michael Staiti: coming right on said that. but Susan Weinstein: Well. if they're trying to sell part of it. then yes. yeah. I mean. if we already have the land. right? Michael Staiti: So I guess what I'm trying to understand. our trust would support a higher density. fully affordable project. And do you want to commit funds to it?
Mary Antes: I am. I would. I would. too. Michael Staiti: Jackie. Yep. great. I will be pushing for that little harder at our next meeting. Okay.
I don't know what this next item on the update is. meeting of affordable housing trust on July 16. I don't understand what that means. Mary Antes: Uh. I've mentioned before that there are regular meetings of the various housing trusts in this area. and they had this one in July. and the primary agenda item was the transfer fee presentation. Carmine Gentile has a bill that would allow communities to have real estate transfer fees so that and the money then would be used for affordable housing. And they figure that. you know. we might get a million dollars by enacting I acting local real estate transfer fee. I mentioned it at the last joint housing meeting. and so my impression is that Robert Hummel will put that on the agenda for the next meeting. it would charge. It would be similar to the CPA. and that as real estate is sold. there would be a fee that would come to the town. and it would go for affordable housing. Michael Staiti: Got it okay. See what happens with that. Next item on the agenda is considered purchase of property at 14 West plain. I believe the slack man sent this over for us to look at or to Robert Hummel. No. Selectman. Blackman. so Is everybody familiar with 14 West Main on the corner opposite Dunkin Donuts. across from the CVS? Mary Antes: Yeah. it's right next door to the Cochituate ball field Susan Weinstein: and the gas station. not the abandoned Michael Staiti: gas station. Yes. next to it. it's a Class A. B or B office building currently being sold by a private developer. I forget the price. like 1.5 maybe. Yep. yep. They can. So select me. I wanted us to take a look at it. I think it's too much of a challenge for our trust to take on. primarily because of the cost of the conversion from current office to any kind of residential would be at least the same. 1.5 we'd have to pay for it. and I just don't see that it's good use of our money.
Susan Weinstein: So the board is having like an open forum on the 15th. I mean. it's a shame. because it's a really great location for affordable housing or shared living.
Michael Staiti: Yep. and you know. if you had a shared living partner that wanted to come in and do the work to convert it be a great scenario. but I don't know how we could go ahead and try to we could buy it. We have the money. but we're close to have the money. Susan Weinstein: I mean. I don't. I don't know if it would be 1.5 because we would have to have it appraised. or the Select Board has got is getting it appraised. I don't know. And we can't pay more than the appraisal. You would know better than me whether it's going to go for 1.5 Yeah. I Michael Staiti: mean vacant office building. I mean square footage wise. it should. But. you know. office buildings aren't exactly in favor these days. So. right? It's true. It's hard to say. Let's assume it appraises for one four. even one three. right? You know. for us to just buy it and sit on it doesn't really make any sense. And without having a partner in place that would come in and we sell them for $1 under a de restriction that it gets converted to a group home for the next 99 years. that'd be a great scenario. but we don't have that partner in place. Susan Weinstein: Yes. would it need. like. substantial re plumbing? Michael Staiti: Oh. we need everything accessibility. jack hammering. floors. I don't know if it's on a foundation or not. but yeah. every bathroom would have to be handicapped accessible. I mean. I know my company built the one next to the coach krill for Charles River. And. you know. there's a ton of things that go into those to make them code compliant and meet the needs of the residents. Unknown: So it would be a ramp. Michael Staiti: yeah. it has ramp already. No. it'd be a astronomical expense to you know. is it ground up? Would it ground up be cheaper? Probably not. But sometimes it happens that way. You know. basically you're buying a shell. So at this point. I mean. unless somebody wants to reach out to different groups. like. like a Charles River. some of the same ones that the 212 Cochituate committee is talking to. I don't see any scenario where we can buy that converted even into just for rent. condos or bedrooms. That makes any sense whatsoever with this board.
Susan Weinstein: Such a shame. Unknown: Yep. All right. so Michael Staiti: if it's not reasonably considered. think this brings us to the Annual Report. which Susan has graciously agreed to write. So Susan. When could you have that done so we could schedule in the next meeting? So two weeks from tonight would be 916 which would work for me?
Unknown: Please? Michael Staiti: I would schedule just a 15 minute meeting.
Susan Weinstein: I could do the 16th
Mary Antes: like I can too. Jackie.
Unknown: not sure how I got myself muted. but yes.
Michael Staiti: All right. so let's plan on the 16 Mary Antes: at at six o'clock. six o'clock. Michael Staiti: 15 minute meeting. General will be approved the annual report. improve the minutes from the last two meetings. and then any updates that develop between now and Susan Weinstein: then. yeah. even if other committees are meeting if we're at six and finishing before 630 then I don't think that's going to be an issue for zoom access. yeah. and but we'll have two sets of meeting minutes. since we didn't Do them tonight.
Mary Antes: Okay. I will let the town. oh. Michael Staiti: you'll close that agenda. Mary. yeah. I'll be out of town. So just. just post it. Okay. something that's missed. We can just cover it under the Topics not reasonably okay. Susan Weinstein: we'll. we'll approve the minutes that we didn't do tonight and the ones from tonight. Unknown: right? Michael Staiti: And the annual report. right? Susan Weinstein: I was just focusing on minutes.
Michael Staiti: All right. all right. I have a motion to adjourn. Susan Weinstein: It is 633 and I move that we adjourn Michael Staiti: second very Roll Call. Vote. Susan. yes. Jackie. yes. Mary. yes. Mike. yes. great. Thanks. guys. thanks everybody. Thank you.